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Elon Musk terminates his Twitter deal

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CliffyB's Cock Holster
Burning a billion on cancelling this deal is still a pretty tough pill to swallow. But it will be less than the absolute bath he'd take on the overpay that was his official offer. Zero sympathy for this dude. People should stop cheering for this dude. He's just another corporate guy. He's got some ambitious ideas, particularly with regards to space exploration, but giving people like him control of a platform like Twitter has the potential to be really problematic.

I hope he is legit out of the deal, and will focus on other ventures. His fascination with social media is possibly the worst aspect of his public persona, to me.

Why do you hope he's out of the deal? Twitter is inarguably horribly dysfunctional as a platform and seemingly as a business, so isn't there some value in a change of ownership.

I couldn't really care less either way, and personally I've never had the slightest interest in Twitter, BUT its still an interesting series of events to talk about, if nothing else because its from the start been a significant front in the all-consuming culture wars.
 

Rival

Gold Member
It will be interesting if Twitter does sue Elon to see the numbers come out in court regarding the estimated numbers of fake accounts on Twitter. It’s a cesspool of spambots. I don’t think Elon ever really wanted it anyways.
 

poppabk

Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Someone fucked up and is gonna pay a heavy price. My guess is it is going to be Elon.
 

Chittagong

Gold Member
“Elon Musk is buying Twitter”

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“Elon Musk is not buying Twitter”

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So he bought a ton o twitter shares before saying that he intended on buying it. Then he gives up on the deal. Smells like dogge coin all over again… Well, at least and perhaps for the good, he showed how shady is twitter.
 
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akimbo009

Gold Member
Anyone still thinking this is Elon Musk playing some kind of four dimensional, giga-chad chess with Twitter is sniffing way too many of his farts. It's never good business to enter into a takeover of this kind and pull out at this stage. He fucked up. They fucked up. Everyone fucked up. Will it really do him that much damage? No. That's probably why he went for it in the first place.

Now watch Bezos (who is probably the business guy everybody thinks Elon is) buy it instead.
And for 30% less than Musk would had. It'd actually be pretty hilarious.
 

*Nightwing

Banned
How can you be a winner if you're rooting for Musk?
And pro Musk people in the thread think I’m rooting for Twitter… That is the point… no one wins when we accept tribalism and retreat to the safety of our own little social bubbles and don’t actually discuss the topic instead of mindlessly parroting talking points as evidenced by over 100 posts in the thread.

It all “you’re an idiot for doubting musk” & “you’re an idiot for believing in musk”.
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Maybe, like always, the truth is in the middle where there is clear evidence Twitter is a shit company the manipulates it’s data for thier own desires and is full of bots to control thier narrative, and Musk thinks he is way smarter than he really is and is at the very least going to revitalize Twitter by having to pay them $1billion separation fee for backing out cause he was stupid to get involved in Twitter in the first place.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
And pro Musk people in the thread think I’m rooting for Twitter… That is the point… no one wins when we accept tribalism and retreat to the safety of our own little social bubbles and don’t actually discuss the topic instead of mindlessly parroting talking points as evidenced by over 100 posts in the thread.

It all “you’re an idiot for doubting musk” & “you’re an idiot for believing in musk”.
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Maybe, like always, the truth is in the middle where there is clear evidence Twitter is a shit company the manipulates it’s data for thier own desires and is full of bots to control thier narrative, and Musk thinks he is way smarter than he really is and is at the very least going to revitalize Twitter by having to pay them $1billion separation fee for backing out cause he was stupid to get involved in Twitter in the first place.
At the very least, he exposed them for the bullshit they really are, and a lot of people have been saying (and called tinfoil hats in the process by the very echo chamber ideologues) for years.

But this won't be the end of it, especially with Skadden representing Musk. Discovery will be fun, but my gut tells me it may be publicly sealed to protect key players.
 

Cyberpunkd

Member
How can you be a winner if you're rooting for Musk?
Why not? The guy built the most successful electric car company in the world, despite years of everyone saying major car companies will kill Tesla ‘any moment now’ since Musk doesn’t know how to build cars. It looks like he does.

Same with SpaceX - you cannot build a viable rockets for a fraction of cost and reusable. Musk: hold my beer.

Also Starlink.

Twitter is dumpster fire, a platform where MO is short attention span. Now it also looks what everyone knows to be true - most likely vast numbers on the platform are due to not accounts. Add to the fact Twitter was never profitable - it looks there is no viable business model for 140 characters social voyeurism (as opposed to Facebook).
 
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DeepEnigma

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No idea what DN Media is, could be Deez Nuts for all I know.

An Arab digital marketing company.


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Droxcy

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Honestly probably just a PR leak to piss off the twitter employees and users that all quit because he was buying them in the first place classic troll move. Over sensitive people that's what you get :messenger_grinning_sweat:
 

Doczu

Member
Oh I know. It's going to be hilarious.


I have already been laughing my ass off at his fanclub twisting themselves into knots on Social Media trying to defend him and talk about how all this is 7D chess lol
Dude you have such a fucking bad track record regarding trusting people and placing bets on outcomes that i'm starting to laugh my ass of right now knowing the outcome will be totally opposite from what you think will happen.
Just take precautions, brace yourself and be safe.
 

GeorgioCostanzaX

Gold Member
Discovery is going to be fun. Twitter will be forced to reveal the real bot numbers and how they’ve been lying to advertisers about their real user count. Fuck Twitter. Burn in hell shitheads.
I think COVID has given me slight dyslexia: I read the last line as “Burn in Shit Hellheads!”
 

BadBurger

Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
Why not? The guy built the most successful electric car company in the world, despite years of everyone saying major car companies will kill Tesla ‘any moment now’ since Musk doesn’t know how to build cars. It looks like he does.

If it weren't for a $465m bailout from the US government in 2009 ($633m in 2022 dollars), and over a decade of very gracious tax breaks and other subsidies, Tesla might not exist today. And if it did, it would be a shell of its current self. Also, Tesla is losing tax breaks and other subsidies because they haven't been able to keep up with advancements in battery tech like almost every other manufacturer (one of the reasons Musk continues to complain about the US government).

Need to keep things in perspective. These billionaires always claim absolute credit for their accomplishments but always neglect to mention all of the subsidies and handouts they received along the way from the tax payers.


An Arab digital marketing company.


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Are they supposed to be bad because they're Arab?
 
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Ownage

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If it weren't for a $465m bailout from the US government in 2009 ($633m in 2022 dollars), and over a decade of very gracious tax breaks and other subsidies, Tesla might not exist today. And if it did, it would be a shell of its current self. Also, Tesla is losing tax breaks and other subsidies because they haven't been able to keep up with advancements in battery tech like almost every other manufacturer (one of the reasons Musk continues to complain about the US government).

Need to keep things in perspective. These billionaires always claim absolute credit for their accomplishments but always neglect to mention all of the subsidies and handouts they received along the way from the tax payers.




Are they supposed to be bad because they're Arab?
No, bad because they're nobodies.
 

Ogbert

Member
This will be hilarious.

Twitter will now sue him to demand he buys the company at the offered price.

Will rumble on, fizzling out sometime in 2026.
 

Ogbert

Member
Are there really grounds where they can force him to buy?
Sounds... implausible?
No, but they could argue that he has broken the terms of the contract causing such financial damage that the penalties will almost equal the price of the deal.

Of course, he’ll just laugh that off and say ‘see you in court’. The penalty would obviously never reach those billions, and Musk’s lawyers will simply argue that Twitter fraudulently misrepresented the value of the company and understated the level of spam accounts.
 

BadBurger

Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
No, but they could argue that he has broken the terms of the contract causing such financial damage that the penalties will almost equal the price of the deal.

Of course, he’ll just laugh that off and say ‘see you in court’. The penalty would obviously never reach those billions, and Musk’s lawyers will simply argue that Twitter fraudulently misrepresented the value of the company and understated the level of spam accounts.

Twitter doesn't have to prove anything. Musk made them the offer, then tried to back out and started making stuff up. He didn't negotiate anything with them first. He made mistake after mistake while Twitter continued to act in good faith for the terms of his offer.

Anyways, I think I am done with the conversation for now and will wait to see what Twitter's suit entails. That's going to be the real story now.


Edit: OK, my last bit until the suit - this article has some funny tweets making fun of the entire ordeal

Edit 2: Nevermind, after looking at the article a second time it's probably not welcome here - but this was my favorite of the tweets

 
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Kraz

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Twitter doesn't have to prove anything. Musk made them the offer, then tried to back out and started making stuff up. He didn't negotiate anything with them first. He made mistake after mistake while Twitter continued to act in good faith for the terms of his offer.

Anyways, I think I am done with the conversation for now and will wait to see what Twitter's suit entails. That's going to be the real story now.
It's possibly going to be a long, but entertaining.

Some interesting speculation:
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The Twitter chair, Bret Taylor, said on Friday that the social media firm would sue in a Delaware court to enforce the deal. The deal included a “specific performance” clause, a provision that may force Musk to buy the company as long as he has financing in place. Musk in May said he had secured financing to complete the deal.

In addition to the fine for the failed deal, Musk could face serious consequences from the SEC for his antics, which have had major impacts on the several public companies he manages as well as Twitter itself.

Musk is an executive at the artificial intelligence firm Neuralink, the electric car company Tesla, the space travel company SpaceX, and the tunnel construction firm the Boring Company. He has in the past faced lawsuits from investors over his erratic behavior and its effects on the companies’ stocks.

“The fine will be painful for Musk, but what would be more painful is if the SEC used its power to say ‘you are not fit to run the companies you are running and someone else should be appointed as CEO’,” Beck said.
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Axios does raise an interesting question in the possibility of the court ruling in Twitter's favour and Musk refusing to pay in this flow.
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Twitter said elsewhere it's hoping for this to be resolved in a few months.

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Twitter Inc (TWTR.N) has a strong legal case against Elon Musk walking away from his $44 billion deal to acquire the U.S. social media company but could opt for a renegotiation or settlement instead of a long court fight, according to legal experts.

Delaware courts, where the dispute between the two sides is set to be litigated, have set a high bar for acquirers being allowed to abandon their deals. But target companies often choose the certainty of a renegotiated deal at a lower price or financial compensation rather than a messy court battle that can last for many months, three corporate law professors interviewed by Reuters said.

Musk also said in a letter to Twitter on Friday that the company's misrepresentation of the number of spam accounts might be a "material adverse effect (MAE)" that would allow him to walk away under the terms of the deal contract.

But legal experts said Delaware courts view MAEs as dramatic, unexpected events that cause long-term harm to a company's performance. Deal contracts such as the one between Musk and Twitter are so prescriptive that a judge has ruled that an MAE has validly been triggered only once in the history of such litigation -- in the case of German healthcare group Fresenius Kabi AG ending its deal for U.S. generic drugmaker's Akorn Inc in 2018.

In that case, a court ruled that Akorn's assurances to Fresenius that it was in compliance with its regulatory obligations were inaccurate. It also found that Akorn had withheld facts about its deteriorating performance that emerged in whistleblower allegations.

Legal experts were dismissive of the idea that inaccurate spam account numbers would amount to an MAE for Twitter on the same level as the problems that plagued Akorn.

"If it goes to court, Musk has the burden to prove more likely than not, that the spam account numbers not only were false, but they were so false that it will have significant effect on Twitter's earnings going forward," said Ann Lipton, associate dean for faculty research at Tulane Law School.
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Ogbert

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Twitter doesn't have to prove anything. Musk made them the offer, then tried to back out and started making stuff up. He didn't negotiate anything with them first. He made mistake after mistake while Twitter continued to act in good faith for the terms of his offer.

Anyways, I think I am done with the conversation for now and will wait to see what Twitter's suit entails. That's going to be the real story now.
They will have to prove that their quoted figure of spam accounts is true, or at least ‘as true’ as technically possible to establish.

Forget the fact that it’s Twitter and Musk. If a purchaser is able to establish that the quoted terms of the contract (namely, what he’s actually buying) are false, then of course the contract is null and void.
 
It's possibly going to be a long, but entertaining.

Some interesting speculation:
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The Twitter chair, Bret Taylor, said on Friday that the social media firm would sue in a Delaware court to enforce the deal. The deal included a “specific performance” clause, a provision that may force Musk to buy the company as long as he has financing in place. Musk in May said he had secured financing to complete the deal.

In addition to the fine for the failed deal, Musk could face serious consequences from the SEC for his antics, which have had major impacts on the several public companies he manages as well as Twitter itself.

Musk is an executive at the artificial intelligence firm Neuralink, the electric car company Tesla, the space travel company SpaceX, and the tunnel construction firm the Boring Company. He has in the past faced lawsuits from investors over his erratic behavior and its effects on the companies’ stocks.

“The fine will be painful for Musk, but what would be more painful is if the SEC used its power to say ‘you are not fit to run the companies you are running and someone else should be appointed as CEO’,” Beck said.
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Axios does raise an interesting question in the possibility of the court ruling in Twitter's favour and Musk refusing to pay in this flow.
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Twitter said elsewhere it's hoping for this to be resolved in a few months.

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Twitter Inc (TWTR.N) has a strong legal case against Elon Musk walking away from his $44 billion deal to acquire the U.S. social media company but could opt for a renegotiation or settlement instead of a long court fight, according to legal experts.

Delaware courts, where the dispute between the two sides is set to be litigated, have set a high bar for acquirers being allowed to abandon their deals. But target companies often choose the certainty of a renegotiated deal at a lower price or financial compensation rather than a messy court battle that can last for many months, three corporate law professors interviewed by Reuters said.

Musk also said in a letter to Twitter on Friday that the company's misrepresentation of the number of spam accounts might be a "material adverse effect (MAE)" that would allow him to walk away under the terms of the deal contract.

But legal experts said Delaware courts view MAEs as dramatic, unexpected events that cause long-term harm to a company's performance. Deal contracts such as the one between Musk and Twitter are so prescriptive that a judge has ruled that an MAE has validly been triggered only once in the history of such litigation -- in the case of German healthcare group Fresenius Kabi AG ending its deal for U.S. generic drugmaker's Akorn Inc in 2018.

In that case, a court ruled that Akorn's assurances to Fresenius that it was in compliance with its regulatory obligations were inaccurate. It also found that Akorn had withheld facts about its deteriorating performance that emerged in whistleblower allegations.

Legal experts were dismissive of the idea that inaccurate spam account numbers would amount to an MAE for Twitter on the same level as the problems that plagued Akorn.

"If it goes to court, Musk has the burden to prove more likely than not, that the spam account numbers not only were false, but they were so false that it will have significant effect on Twitter's earnings going forward," said Ann Lipton, associate dean for faculty research at Tulane Law School.
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I'm no lawyer but I'll just call it now. Musk has literally 0.00000001% chance of winning in court. His claims are a joke. He's done obvious damage that will be easy to prove.

The only thing that will prevent a loss is Twitter deciding they prefer a settlement over further association with the continued slow motion train wreck Musk has been on this issue, as it would just further damage their brand more than it already has been damaged.
 
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Twitter doesn't have to prove anything. Musk made them the offer, then tried to back out and started making stuff up. He didn't negotiate anything with them first. He made mistake after mistake while Twitter continued to act in good faith for the terms of his offer.

Anyways, I think I am done with the conversation for now and will wait to see what Twitter's suit entails. That's going to be the real story now.

They will have to prove that their quoted figure of spam accounts is true, or at least ‘as true’ as technically possible to establish.

Forget the fact that it’s Twitter and Musk. If a purchaser is able to establish that the quoted terms of the contract (namely, what he’s actually buying) are false, then of course the contract is null and void.
This is exactly where this lawsuit will be fought, regarding the idea of what data Twitter should be required to turn over to Musk for them not to be in "material breach" of the contract. It's nicely explained at this timestamp:

 

Ogbert

Member
This is exactly where this lawsuit will be fought, regarding the idea of what data Twitter should be required to turn over to Musk for them not to be in "material breach" of the contract. It's nicely explained at this timestamp:


It’s a fascinating situation.

I obviously have no idea how the $44 billion valuation was arrived at. However, I think it would be reasonable to assume that ‘user accounts’ is one of the fundamental drivers.

I don’t think it would be especially difficult to establish that if those figures are false then, in turn, it adversely affects the acquisition.

For all the excitement and hustle and bustle, this feels like a pretty simply legal dispute.
 

Kraz

Banned
I'm no lawyer but I'll just call it now. Musk has literally 0.00000001% chance of winning in court. His claims are a joke. He's done obvious damage that will be easy to prove.

The only thing that will prevent a loss is Twitter deciding they prefer a settlement over further association with the continued slow motion train wreck Musk has been on this issue, as it would just further damage their brand more than it already has been damaged.
Taking the court as neutral in precedent and since this case begins with the burden of proof being on Musk - he is at a disadvantage.

His other antics and court cases are in their own stages. Funny to watch that he has another suit going on with shareholders from this fiasco. Don't impulse buy.
None of this is going to help him in the long run. Whoever was advising him to buy twitter doesn't have his interests in mind. lol
 
It’s a fascinating situation.

I obviously have no idea how the $44 billion valuation was arrived at. However, I think it would be reasonable to assume that ‘user accounts’ is one of the fundamental drivers.

I don’t think it would be especially difficult to establish that if those figures are false then, in turn, it adversely affects the acquisition.

For all the excitement and hustle and bustle, this feels like a pretty simply legal dispute.
I think it's just a sideshow, and a joke of a claim. It's pretty well known how much money Twitter makes or doesn't make, and any determination about the bot numbers is not going to change that, because they've been pulling in the same money regardless on that front. There was no sudden, unforseen, rapid and unexpected change between the time Musk signed the deal and now. Literally nothing changed except his mind, which just happens to coincide with the stock value plummeting at the same time. Ooops. And Musk has a lot of public statements claiming he's not even that concerned with the profit, so why does he suddenly care about the bot numbers enough to claim that the deal is void?

The amount of times the Delaware court has ruled that a MAE event occurred that was significant enough to void a deal like this is just once in the entire history of the court. It's a high burden of proof.

Every other aspect of financial law is going to side with stability and preserving the trust people have in deals like this. Musk is arguing that he has the right to basically just change his mind after signing a deal, even though it's going to affect countless stock owners, and 3 large companies' valuation. 0% chance they're going to reward someone acting erratically like that. The article even suggests it might rule that he's a liability to all shareholders (I don't see that happening).
 
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This is a decent article as well. Breaks it down fairly well - including other times he's already been fined for "pretending" to make major moves on a company and then changing his mind.

"Musk pretended in 2018 that he was going to take Tesla Inc. private, he had to pay the US Securities and Exchange Commission a $20 million fine and stop being the chairman of Tesla’s board. You’re not really supposed to go around pretending that you will buy a public company; the SEC sometimes considers that securities fraud. But Musk is very rich and he can easily afford to pay $20 million for his little joke. His appetite for pretending to buy public companies was, apparently, undiminished."

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-07-09/elon-s-out?srnd=premium

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Ogbert

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I think it's just a sideshow, and a joke of a claim. It's pretty well known how much money Twitter makes or doesn't make, and any determination about the bot numbers is not going to change that, because they've been pulling in the same money regardless on that front. There was no sudden, unforseen, rapid and unexpected change between the time Musk signed the deal and now. Literally nothing changed except his mind, which just happens to coincide with the stock value plummeting at the same time. Ooops. And Musk has a lot of public statements claiming he's not even that concerned with the profit, so why does he suddenly care about the bot numbers enough to claim that the deal is void?

The amount of times the Delaware court has ruled that a MAE event occurred that was significant enough to void a deal like this is just once in the entire history of the court. It's a high burden of proof.

Every other aspect of financial law is going to side with stability and preserving the trust people have in deals like this. Musk is arguing that he has the right to basically just change his mind after signing a deal, even though it's going to affect countless stock owners, and 3 large companies' valuation. 0% chance they're going to reward someone acting erratically like that. The article even suggests it might rule that he's a liability to all shareholders (I don't see that happening).
I don’t think the MAE argument holds water; it’s suggested that Musk has only hinted at it. I’m not familiar with US law, but it sounds like a sort of commercial ‘force majeure’. This sort of thing isn’t appropriate.

The case seems far more simple. It the account figures are false, it should be reasonably easy to establish an avenue for walking away. As you suggest, if he’s talking nonsense, he’ll end up paying a cool billion or so in contractual penalties.

But it seems like a simple matter of fact. Clarify the account details.
 
I don’t think the MAE argument holds water; it’s suggested that Musk has only hinted at it. I’m not familiar with US law, but it sounds like a sort of commercial ‘force majeure’. This sort of thing isn’t appropriate.

The case seems far more simple. It the account figures are false, it should be reasonably easy to establish an avenue for walking away. As you suggest, if he’s talking nonsense, he’ll end up paying a cool billion or so in contractual penalties.

But it seems like a simple matter of fact. Clarify the account details.
The burden of proof is higher than account figures being false. They have to be excessively false to a level that materially impacts the financial health of the company. The bot numbers would have to be very inaccurate, and then their clarification would have to suddenly cause a massive change in the amount of advertising money they're taking in (none of this has happened).

Like I said, I'm no lawyer but it sounds like a ridiculous assertion all around on this one.
 

gatti-man

Member
Is it bullshit if it’s the contract? (I don’t know if it really is)
It really is and it’s ironclad. Elon is paying at minimum court costs + 1B unless Twitter caves. It’s an open and shut case really.

I don’t think the MAE argument holds water; it’s suggested that Musk has only hinted at it. I’m not familiar with US law, but it sounds like a sort of commercial ‘force majeure’. This sort of thing isn’t appropriate.

The case seems far more simple. It the account figures are false, it should be reasonably easy to establish an avenue for walking away. As you suggest, if he’s talking nonsense, he’ll end up paying a cool billion or so in contractual penalties.

But it seems like a simple matter of fact. Clarify the account details.

It’s not this way at all. When you sign an acquisition contract DD is already done at that point. These are signed SPECIFICALLY to avoid this kind of stupidity Elon is trying to pull. It’s too late. Like walking away from a house after you signed the mortgage loan. Can’t and won’t happen without extreme proven fraud.
 
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
Serious question:

Articles and opinion pieces predicting the legal outcomes are genuinely impartial or tainted by the politicization surrounding Twitter as the chosen social media of the cultural elite?


My view is very much the latter because I think that from the very start, coverage of the takeover has been overtly partisan.

There's not a lot of precedent for legal argument of this nature, and if the sticking point is the volume of bot accounts materially affecting the value of a social media company - I'd argue that's a uniquely powerful question because we know the number of active users for any online service is a major KPI arguably THE KPI.

I wrote in an earlier post that this is opening a whole can of worms legally speaking for the entire digital economy. Consider how these tech giants make their money: selling advertising, selling metadata. This is information technology and the quality of that information is crucial to their business model. How can you think that rates for access to their userbase/metadata isn't majorly influenced by its size? If its actually 15% bots, not the 5% they proclaim... that's significant. For everyone doing business in the space.

If nothing else, I think its going to be interesting to see some more light being shed on that specific question. I think its something we all really ought to know, especially as in the years to come bots and fake-AI agents are going to be increasingly common.
 
Serious question:

Articles and opinion pieces predicting the legal outcomes are genuinely impartial or tainted by the politicization surrounding Twitter as the chosen social media of the cultural elite?


My view is very much the latter because I think that from the very start, coverage of the takeover has been overtly partisan.

There's not a lot of precedent for legal argument of this nature, and if the sticking point is the volume of bot accounts materially affecting the value of a social media company - I'd argue that's a uniquely powerful question because we know the number of active users for any online service is a major KPI arguably THE KPI.

I wrote in an earlier post that this is opening a whole can of worms legally speaking for the entire digital economy. Consider how these tech giants make their money: selling advertising, selling metadata. This is information technology and the quality of that information is crucial to their business model. How can you think that rates for access to their userbase/metadata isn't majorly influenced by its size? If its actually 15% bots, not the 5% they proclaim... that's significant. For everyone doing business in the space.

If nothing else, I think its going to be interesting to see some more light being shed on that specific question. I think its something we all really ought to know, especially as in the years to come bots and fake-AI agents are going to be increasingly common.
Twitter has had to report some version of this data to all its investors and customers (advertisers); (what their userbase is and the potential impact and value of ads on their service) for as long as they've been a company. Musk is basically just asserting that Twitter has basically been committing fraud this entire time, but hasn't provided a single bit of evidence to back that up. The fraud would have to be exposed and then materially change the financial course of the company. That hasn't happened. Twitter also provided Musk with the "firehose" of data they have so that he could try to prove it himself, which is basically an impossible task requiring teams of data scientists to try and dig through various metrics and come up with some indication of data that points to real or bot-like behavior (something Twitter already does).

We're not going to get any light shed on it. Read through the article I put up a few posts up. They even explain in detail Musk's many data requests to Twitter, and Twitter's responses. It becomes pretty obvious that the whole bot thing is really just a bullshit dodge so he can get out of it. He was publicly saying he's buying the company BECAUSE of the bots not that long ago so he can "clean it up." He's full of shit on this one. That's not my political claim, that's my claim from just casually looking at how full of shit his statements have been.

Ultimately you're the only one that can judge for yourself what articles you feel are credible. A good tactic is to read a few opinions from different perspectives, think about their arguments for yourself and see which sounds better?
 
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Nobody_Important

“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Dude you have such a fucking bad track record regarding trusting people and placing bets on outcomes that i'm starting to laugh my ass of right now knowing the outcome will be totally opposite from what you think will happen.
Just take precautions, brace yourself and be safe.
Not sure what you mean? I'm going to be happy regardless of outcome.

Either Twitter stays out of his claws or he is forced to vastly overpay for a service riddled with bots.

I'm laughing either way.
 

BeardGawd

Banned
Guys as I've stated before his way out of this is the financing.

Look at the contract for yourself. Read their termination letter.

They mention several reasons MAEs was one avenue. But if Twitter cannot provide the "reasonably requested" data that the banks require for him to get financing. He gets to walk away. That is his ace in the hole here that noone is mentioning.

A lot of legal pundents said Depp would lose. Depending on their affliation you can't just take everything they say as what's accurate.

The banks will absolutely be on Musk's side. And I would bet he has already spoken with them before terminating the deal.

His Tweet about securing financing was contingent on the numbers being accurate.

Worst case is he may have to pay the $1 Billion. But he's a stock owner so they can't argue he was trying to act in bad faith because that would hurt his stocks too. The longer this gets dragged out in court Twitter runs the risk of not even getting the breakup fee if it's decided in his favor. Twitter will possibly settle for less.
 
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