Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Fuck the bots, I want to know how many hamsters are on Twitter.
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Elon Musk terminates his Twitter deal
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Ionian
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Ah the bot thing was obvious for years and I don't don't even use it.
Just obvious with replies when someone links a tweet. (They're not even great deals, just weird shit.)
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
I have yet to see a single example of conservatives being banned on Twitter who weren't flagrantly breaking the rules or being hateful and bigoted. They act like we all can't merely browse Twitter ourselves, or read the tweets they were banned over via archival services.
Someone championed Jordan Peterson for some reason, but he is a great example: Peterson was being aggressively transphobic and harassing an individual who never even tweeted one word to him. He was even afforded a second chance and doubled down.
Anywho, don't wanna be banned from Twitter, don't break the rules and don't be hateful. As others pointed out virtually all major conservative figures remain on Twitter because they don't break the rules. This is reality and it's bizarre watching people attempt to lazily gaslight this obvious truth.
Someone championed Jordan Peterson for some reason, but he is a great example: Peterson was being aggressively transphobic and harassing an individual who never even tweeted one word to him. He was even afforded a second chance and doubled down.
Anywho, don't wanna be banned from Twitter, don't break the rules and don't be hateful. As others pointed out virtually all major conservative figures remain on Twitter because they don't break the rules. This is reality and it's bizarre watching people attempt to lazily gaslight this obvious truth.
Chittagong
Gold Member
Twitter suspends Babylon Bee account for naming Rachel Levine 'Man of the Year'
Twitter locked the account of a right-leaning parody site, The Babylon Bee, after it awarded Rachel Levine, the transgender Biden administration official, the title of “man of the year.”…
nypost.com
A literal joke that may or may not have been poor taste, but nevertheless went against what the blue haired moderators of Twitter deemed acceptable. Because jokes involving trans people are absolutely haram, ”jokes normalize casual trsnsphobia” I believe is the correct party line.
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
Twitter suspends Babylon Bee account for naming Rachel Levine 'Man of the Year'
Twitter locked the account of a right-leaning parody site, The Babylon Bee, after it awarded Rachel Levine, the transgender Biden administration official, the title of “man of the year.”…
A literal joke that may or may not have been poor taste, but nevertheless went against what the blue haired moderators of Twitter deemed acceptable. Because jokes involving trans people are absolutely haram, ”jokes normalize casual trsnsphobia” I believe is the correct party line.
There's a difference between a joke about trans people in general, and targeting a specific individual who identifies as a woman and calling them a man. That's harassment and it's cruel. It's not a joke.
Maybe this is why there are zero funny conservative "comedians". They don't actually understand humor.
Side note: The Babylon Bee was only suspended. They're back on Twitter.
Why would we be "following the money"? What is so different about them that we would even be provoked to follow through with such a mental exercise?
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TaylorSwiftFan
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Are conservative comedians or actors allowed to exist?
HoodWinked
Member
that's a bad take, it's not really that they're conservative comedians it's that they simply proclaimed this thing arbitrarily.
people make personal insults and violent threats at pretty much anyone right of center but for some reason a misgendering get's enforced to a totalitarian level.
And no Babylon Bee is not back on twitter, they're still suspended their last post was months ago. They can only participate if they delete their offending tweet which twitter puts a disclaimer they acknowledge that "they did the bad thing" by deleting it.
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
1. If we're sharing anecdotes, I've seen plenty of liberal followers and people I followed suspended or banned for harassment and threats. Just follow JK Rowling, who I support. I've watched many a far-left radical get their account nuked because they felt the need to threaten her
2. Oh ok, I didn't realize there was some nuanced situation with them. I follow them, so I just went and clicked on their profile and noticed that I didn't get the "This account is banned...." or whatever message. So like Peterson they refuse to issue a mea culpa. Oh well.
strange headache
Banned
That "someone" was me, or are you just too coward to address me directly?
Also Peterson's tweet was neither transphobic, nor harassment. It wasn't even directed at the person:
He got banned for "deadnaming" which in itself is an absurd rule, considering Ellen Page's career.
He was also not "attacking" Ellen Page, but the doctor who did the surgery without proper psychological guidance. Peterson is lamenting the fact that these surgeries are done way too fast, which is also something that many doctors are criticizing nowadays.
I'm also not religious, but I do share the belief that pride is a vice and nothing to be proud of. Modesty is a virtue!
As for your other claim, well the list is long:
Twitter suspensions - Wikipedia
Notable inclusions this year only: Peterson, Rubin, Walsh, Babylon Bee, Tucker Carlson, libsoftiktok...
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BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
I was just skimming the thread. I didn't take note of who posted it nor did I think the post deserved ponderance or a direct response. I was browsing through, saw a link to some Peterson video, noticed it was in his favor, and very briefly thought "well that's a very good example but not for the reasons they think it is" and continued scrolling down.
Also, "coward". Come on. I enjoy GAF as much as the next user but you are investing a bit too much emotionally into a discussion forum.
SJRB
Gold Member
When I saw this in my feed I had to do a double take to see if it was really him that posted this.
What a legend.
Chittagong
Gold Member
Bwhahaha, thanks to this I discovered this gem of an account
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
thefool
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You graduated from clown university to judge which jokes are acceptable?
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Toots
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That's a dumb dumb take from Musk.
He can't loose, not because he's Chuck Norris, but because he has no king to take.
I could play guitar better than Hendrix if i was the only one with a guitar...
captainnapalm
Member
As I expected, Musk clearly isn't too worried about this. It's not his companies at stake. Tesla and SpaceX are doing just fine - in fact Tesla stock price is up following this news. He had already secured funding for the Twitter purchase, with the $44b only containing $6b of his own money. So I don't think his finances are in peril whatever happens.
It is pretty crazy that he can joke about stuff like this, though. Musk is a unique individual, that's for sure. Totally fearless. I guess you'd have to be to put all of your money into pipedream space and electric car companies.
It is pretty crazy that he can joke about stuff like this, though. Musk is a unique individual, that's for sure. Totally fearless. I guess you'd have to be to put all of your money into pipedream space and electric car companies.
Ionian
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The point was to drive the price down to begin with.
He doesn't lose here.
He was getting people in on it, that was the point.
He drives stocks up and down, how do you not see that?
A Pump and dump.
MastaKiiLA
Member
He should never have made an offer if he didn't do his due diligence. Why is anyone believing his bullshit claim that he made a $44 billion offer to buy a social media platform that everyone and their mother knows is a bot farm, without getting the complete bot numbers?
Really?
No...serious...really?
I'm supposed to believe that? Either Elon Musk, the tech billionaire, is a complete rube who made an impulse buy, OR he's trying to gaslight his adoring fans, because the platform is an excellent means of spreading misinformation. If Twitter wasn't a hot bed of false info, it would be a lot easier to believe him. However, it seems pretty clear that he's just throwing his toys, and seeking emotional support from his followers, who will stroke his ego despite his claim making him look like a fucking moron.
Seriously...why would he make an offer without the full bot info that his team vetted? That just doesn't make any sense. Am I misunderstanding something here?
Ionian
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Smiggs
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That account is... incredible. Holy shit hahaha.
Maiden Voyage
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"demisexual lesbian who dates men"
This is the best fake twitter account ever.
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Smiggs
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"demisexual lesbian who dates men"
This is the best fake twitter account ever.
I may have to create a burner Twitter account just to peruse that page. Absolutely legendary.
Ogbert
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My suspicion is that they simply do not know.
Ogbert
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Considering we’re living during a period of history where you have to pretend that men are women or risk being dunked as a heretic, I’m not sure the concept of ‘an obvious truth’ remains.
Pagusas
Elden Member
I can't believe any lawyer would have signed off on that, where are you reading the contract?
RavenSan
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It's satire.
Punished Miku
Banned
Smiggs
Member
No kidding.
Azurro
Banned
Ellen Page has obvious mental issues that have been escalating through the years, and to accomplish this latest claim she had to find a doctor who doesn't care about the Hippocratic Oath and just butchered out her breasts and gave her abs insertions. It's sad, but stating reality that Ellen Page (or now Elliot Page I suppose) is still a woman isn't harassment.
ManaByte
Member
No it’s not. They claimed they gave him a “fire hose” of data, but that fire hose lacked the data to verify if an account was legitimate or a bot. So it was bullshit.
Punished Miku
Banned
What data is Musk lacking specifically from Twitter?
ManaByte
Member
In order to verify if an account is legitimate or a bot you need to see IP and location information, but Twitter claims that’s personal data and they wouldn’t hand it over in the fire hose, which made it impossible to verify their bot claims.
Punished Miku
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Interesting. I guess we'll see where the chips fall. Based on what I've read, I don't think Musk has a chance of arguing that Twitter didn't meet their obligations in the deal.
MastaKiiLA
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We live in a society. People have been shunned from polite society for as long as humans have been social animals. When the societal norms shift, you shift with them or get left behind. No one in this thread has said anything that would've gotten them banned on Twitter, right? There's plenty of room for conversation on a wide range of topics. The people who get banned crossed a line. No one gets banned on Twitter by accident. It's always borderline at best. Given how far on the fringes the border lines exists on Twitter, I have zero sympathy for anyone who crosses it.
strange headache
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AmuroChan
Member
My guess is his end goal isn't to actually to win the lawsuit, but to draw it out and force a settlement. Even if Twitter "wins" the lawsuit, Musk can still walk away from the deal and just pay the $1B fine, which will cause Twitter stock to tank even further.
Epic Musk legal battle a ‘code red’ and ‘nightmare scenario’ for Twitter, say analysts
Twitter Inc. and Elon Musk are digging in for what could be an epic legal battle over Musk’s decision to terminate his agreement to purchase the social media...
www.marketwatch.com
Punished Miku
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Yep, most likely scenario. There is a possible outcome where Musk is forced to honor the contract and buy it at the agreed upon price. It's one of a few possibilities. It's not a sure thing that he can walk away from it, and for obvious reason. We can already see the damage to Twitter from this now in the market.
"specific performance."
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/11/business/dealbook/elon-musk-twitter-deal-lawsuit.html#:~:text=Twitter is in a good,of the parties wants out.&text=As a subscriber, you have,articles to give each month.
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Dr. Claus
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This is some retarded ass bullshit. I get you are a tribalisitic warrior who sees everything in regressive black and white world view, but use your fucking brain, mate.
chromhound
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MastaKiiLA
Member
So I'm the "tribalistic warrior" when you're the first to hurl the insult? I suppose it's hard to believe people can arrive at a different conclusion than you, when you seemingly find it hard to understand how the world at large works. Do you talk exactly like this post in regular discourse? If so, you'd be well aware of what being shunned feels like. But you probably conduct yourself in a more civil manner when in polite company, because you'd have an innate understanding of how things work in polite company.
I see a lot of vague conspiratorial mumbling about how you can't express certain beliefs and whatnot, but every ban example provided so far has easily been explained.
I'm 44. In my lifetime alone, the perceptions of homosexuality have changed a ton. I remember cracking up at Eddie Murphy's Delirious, as a kid. I remember there being some pretty homophobic shit in there, and not even a comedian could work an act like that today. Eddie was one of the biggest tickets in comedy, and he was saying some shit that would get him canceled today. It was a different time. Things have changed. Things will continue to change. That's a good thing, because if societal norms never changed, I'd still be human property. So, standards for public discourse must change with the times, or we end up making it difficult for people to be themselves in public. And as history has shown, we don't give a shit if the people with the outdated views find it difficult. Your views are outdated, so you either catch up or stay on the outside. That's how it's been my entire life. I don't expect that to change anytime soon.
Dr. Claus
Banned
When your entire argument typically is “agree with my world view or you are outdated and should be shunned”, yea I am going to laugh and call you what you are. A tribalistic warrior who sees the world in black and white and never in shades of gray. Maybe Era would be a better fit for your kind of regressive mentality?
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InfiniteCombo
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This is a good way to put it. I'll use your "black, white, gray views" analogy.
Black: "LGBT people shouldn't exist, they need to be shunned from society."
White: "LGBT people should not only exist, but they need special legal/social treatment above the rest of us, AND you can't even say anything, have a debate, or even make jokes, because you'll be cancelled."
Gray: "LGBT are human beings like the rest of us. They should be treated with decency and respect. Legal/constitutional rights apply to them the same as all of us. Do not needlessly malign or shame them.
But let's not go overboard and start treating them special. Which means we can debate Ina reasonable manner, without being labeled a homophobe or transphobe. Which means we can make jokes about them, just as we make jokes about everyone else -- because that's what humor is. It's the great equalizer."
To me, life is not black or white. It's gray.
Ogbert
Member
But why would he do that? Or, to put it another way, what's in it for him?
I'm just not convinced that Musk is operating at some zen orbital level, hell bent on destroying a mobile app.
MastaKiiLA
Member
But this is how the world works. The norms change, and people will ignore/shun you for being unwelcome. It's not like I'm presenting a foreign concept here. This is how the world works.
We are polite to others, because it allows us to be part of their social circles. We all know that dude who's a dick, who you don't want to talk to or be around. Yeah, that dick may not realize that he's been shunned, because he's found his own social circle of dicks, but that's also how the internet works. So you get shunned from the Twittersphere. You can find your own collection of idiots who somehow managed to get banned from Twitter, and circle jerk on some other platform. Social media and real life don't really differ all that much. Assuming that you should have some extra protections on the internet, just because of the veil of anonymity is where I think the complaints get it wrong.
I can't have a homophobic conversation with my friends, because I don't associate with homophobes. I can't express homophobic opinions in a public area like a restaurant or private party, because most people in that public space are going to be offended. Similarly, Twitter is a public space, and there are people who will be offended by homophobic conversations. I should assume similar consequences on there too. I don't believe there ever existed a reality where you could express ignorant opinions without fear of retribution. Not in moderated public areas anyway.
Smiggs
Member
This is probably one of the most important lessons a person should learn, and should learn young. The only people who deal in absolutes are complete and total fools. Something may be bad 99% of the time, but there may be one case where it's completely justifiable. Nuance is such an important thing in the world.
Bladed Thesis
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It's literally in the filing. Somebody already posted it in this thread at post 87 that details Twitter methods of limiting and throttling Musk's access to data.
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1418091/000110465922078413/tm2220599d1_ex99-p.htm
It's literally right there and IF IT IS CORRECT that is very compelling reason for him to pull out of the deal.
strange headache
Banned
You are the one equating social consensus with truth and justice while supporting the idea that people deserve to be ostracized for thinking differently.
Social consensus has brought us the Inquisition, Stalinism, Nazism, Geocentrism and Phrenology. It has ruined uncountable influential thinkers such as Socrates, Giordano Bruno, Darwin and Galileo...
300 years ago, slavery was a social norm. Without a minority daring to rise up and face the inevitable ostracism, we would still be enslaving people.
Yeah man, social consensus declared homosexuality as deviant, which led to the social shunning of millions of people. Yet here you are, defending the very same practice... oh the irony.
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