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Elon Musk terminates his Twitter deal

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IntentionalPun

Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
You speak for the entire left? Are you their grand representative?

EDIT: it's also not how I "feel" about the moderation. I have no feelings about it. Empirical data says that the moderation is heavily in one direction.

Yeah that was my opinion... as evidenced by the fact it's impossible to state what I said as a fact lol

The second line here becomes rather ironic all things considered.
 
Banning people from Twitter for being bigots, harassing people, etc, is not going to lead to events similar to the inquisition, etc. That is absolutely hilarious to the point that I am not sure if you're an elaborate troll. And equating those hateful people to slaves and those who fought for their freedom?

Wow. Poe's Law in action. I am going to have to screenshot your post so others can laugh at it on social media. Unbelievable.

Yea, this conservation has definitely run its course. Lol. Time to put this thread on ignore.

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Bigots are the modern day heretics.
 
The second line here becomes rather ironic all things considered.
I don't know what this means.

So we'll leave it at this, then: you have an opinion, based on... I don't know what it's based on. Regardless, it's an opinion of what a group of people think about a platform that heavily is in their favor anyway (and therefore, I don't have a clue as to what the fuck they're complaining about, if the opinion is to even be taken at face value 😂).

We all have opinions, I guess 👍🏾
 


Don't worry Elon bros. Musk has the best lawyer you've never heard of in your life. They're preparing a kraken right now. Probably 4 krakens.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Im shitposting. But I'm just getting flashbacks of the last pretrial debate I had on here with similar claims about the legal team.

This will end in a settlement and ultimately be far less entertaining.
I think the media will try and make it more entertaining than it is, since my gut says a lot of discovery will be sealed, and not open like we saw with Epic/Apple.

Too many key players involved in the social media societal terraforming of opinions.
 

LQX

Member
Twitter is one of those things where you are likely the problem. Follow toxic or controversial people? Well, that's likely what Twitter will feed you. I pretty much only follow folks like Wario64 and other deal finder bots/people and pretty much wake up and go to bed to price alerts and mistakes on websites. Saves and makes me money.
 

Ionian

Member
Just to remind everyone.

Hecht had to close his account due to imaginary harassment on Twitter.

The world wept. His world that is, hahaha.

He's still a mod on ERA.

As for Elon, he still makes bank on this. Him and his buddies he tipped off, end of story.
 

Nobody_Important

“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Just to remind everyone.

Hecht had to close his account due to imaginary harassment on Twitter.

The world wept. His world that is, hahaha.

He's still a mod on ERA.

As for Elon, he still makes bank on this. Him and his buddies he tipped off, end of story.
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GHG

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Heed my words. I am Elon, blade of Musk, and I have never known defeat.
 
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Azurro

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Social consensus declared homosexuality as deviant, but times changed. Things are trending in the direction of being more progressive and inclusive, right? So I don't know why the past is relevant when we're trending away from that. Are we just supposed to address topics in their ideal states, or are we actually addressing them in the context of the world that we live in? I don't think your list of Isms means anything. If you think the inclusive push is anywhere near any of that, then we are so far apart in opinions that we could never find common ground, and you can just go ahead and put me on ignore.

There is no social consensus though, there is what normal people find morally ok, and then what the blue haired triggered weirdos on twitter and activists declare to be fine, which is so far left that it's difficult to imagine anyone could genuinely agree with anything they say. We have liberals pushing now to chop up children's genitals, which is unthinkable a few years ago, yet according to twitter and activists that's the consensus, and rational people get censored and banned for stating basic truths. A few loud and annoying activists does not equal consensus.
 

Azurro

Banned
It doesn't seem like a binary "side" thing so much as there are a few personalities that get banned. Doesn't sound like the entire side of a political spectrum umbrella is being banned.

Sounds like you didn't see the videos of the twitter guys on a date talking about their policies. They definitely enforce far left narratives as much as they can get away with.
 
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We have liberals pushing now to chop up children's genitals, which is unthinkable a few years ago
I’m not in favor of making permanent alterations to the anatomy of children when they have no idea who they are and are susceptible to fads and other influences, but come on. My dick got cut up when I was a newborn just like countless other boys’ dicks have been for religious nonsense for thousands of years. Female genital mutilation still goes on due to religious fanatics all over the world.

If you’ve got a problem with mutilating the genitals of children please be consistent in your criticism of those who do it.
 
Was that the same group that got fired?
What group that got fired? You're gonna have to provide details and receipts.

Finding information on this -- at least on Google -- is incredibly difficult. I would say what that means at a deeper level but won't.

Anyway, the only news I found (searching for VERY exact names, including the name of the Twitter exec involved, but I'm not going to include his name here) were from non-mainstream sources, and it was just about the video, and there was nothing about any subsequent action against/consequences for the exec.
 

Kraz

Banned
What group that got fired? You're gonna have to provide details and receipts.

Finding information on this -- at least on Google -- is incredibly difficult. I would say what that means at a deeper level but won't.

Anyway, the only news I found (searching for VERY exact names, including the name of the Twitter exec involved, but I'm not going to include his name here) were from non-mainstream sources, and it was just about the video, and there was nothing about any subsequent action against/consequences for the exec.
Wish I bookmarked it. Finding it is frustrating. There's too many articles about people being fired. It happened so quickly and went away. Maybe within 2 days before it fell out of the cycle. The difficulty in finding it doesn't seem like a conspiracy, just lost in the pile.
I don't feel that Google's out to persecute me.
Maybe though "Now...it's personal"

Perhaps it was a mix up with the the one's fired for being critical of Musk at SpaceX.
 
The difficulty in finding it doesn't seem like a conspiracy, just lost in the pile.
I don't feel that Google's out to persecute me.
It's not a conspiracy. There are algorithmic weights given to certain results which make them easier to find.

Maybe though "Now...it's personal"
Alright, this was funny 😂😂 Always good to see a sense of humor even when discussing these things.

Perhaps it was a mix up with the the one's fired for being critical of Musk at SpaceX.
Yeah that's what I was initially thinking you might have been referring to, as well.

Look, this is not any kind of "gotcha" or anything. I was actually hoping you'd find that article, because trust me, if I got recorded saying unsavory shit directly related to the company I work for, that would embarrass my company in the media at large, I would be out the door before I could even blink. So it would be nice to know that people can face consequences for their actions.

If anything, that guy not facing consequences only adds to the point people are making in this thread of Twitter being heavily biased in a certain sociopolitical direction.
 
Meanwhile Twitter is vowing to sue:


So maybe the fun really is just getting started? I am still eager to see how the shareholders of his other companies react.
Seems like a suicide route for Twitter. So the guy didn't want to buy in the end, after you pulled your pants down...

It's not going to be pretty if it reaches courts and they have to make information available. It's quite easy to disprove how much a social media platform is worth, because they don't make those numbers public in the first place. What I mean is that their worth is speculated, as is facebook, tiktok, etc. Easy inflate, easy deflate.
 

Kraz

Banned
It's not a conspiracy. There are algorithmic weights given to certain results which make them easier to find.


Alright, this was funny 😂😂 Always good to see a sense of humor even when discussing these things.


Yeah that's what I was initially thinking you might have been referring to, as well.

Look, this is not any kind of "gotcha" or anything. I was actually hoping you'd find that article, because trust me, if I got recorded saying unsavory shit directly related to the company I work for, that would embarrass my company in the media at large, I would be out the door before I could even blink. So it would be nice to know that people can face consequences for their actions.

If anything, that guy not facing consequences only adds to the point people are making in this thread of Twitter being heavily biased in a certain sociopolitical direction.
There's just so many more articles about particular firings coming up interspersed with completely irrelevant results.
Not even getting an article to the original event. lol
 

Azurro

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I’m not in favor of making permanent alterations to the anatomy of children when they have no idea who they are and are susceptible to fads and other influences, but come on. My dick got cut up when I was a newborn just like countless other boys’ dicks have been for religious nonsense for thousands of years. Female genital mutilation still goes on due to religious fanatics all over the world.

If you’ve got a problem with mutilating the genitals of children please be consistent in your criticism of those who do it.

There's a fancy word for this, oh yes, whataboutism. I don't think I ever defended this practice, I do not, but even then, the comparison is flawed, in one some of the penis' skin gets removed, in another, the complete member gets removed to create a pseudo vagina and the victim gets pumped of hormones for the rest of his life, while girls get their entire breasts removed. It's all barbaric, and it's all due to ideology.

The pharmaceuticals of course love it because it's the most evil version of a subscription plan.
 
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DeepEnigma

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There's a fancy word for this, oh yes, whataboutism. I don't think I ever defended this practice, I do not, but even then, the comparison is flawed, in one some of the penis' skin gets removed, in another, the complete member gets removed to create a pseudo vagina and the victim gets pumped of hormones for the rest of his life, while girls get their entire breasts removed. It's all barbaric, and it's all due to ideology.

The pharmaceuticals of course love it because it's the most evil version of a subscription plan.
And some cancer risks are over 50% higher. A revolving door for big pharma.
 
There's a fancy word for this, oh yes, whataboutism. I don't think I ever defended this practice, I do not, but even then, the comparison is flawed, in one some of the penis' skin gets removed, in another, the complete member gets removed to create a pseudo vagina and the victim gets pumped of hormones for the rest of his life, while girls get their entire breasts removed. It's all barbaric, and it's all due to ideology.

The pharmaceuticals of course love it because it's the most evil version of a subscription plan.

The main difference actually is one of consent and liberty, but don't you worry about silly things like those. The fact that our surgical practitices have got to the point where these procedures can be carried out by professionals is the opposite of "barbaric". But don't you worry about silly little things like the definition of words. Not when you can try to appeal to people's emotions with such flowery language. Far more effective.
 

DeepEnigma

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The main difference actually is one of consent and liberty, but don't you worry about silly things like those. The fact that our surgical practitices have got to the point where these procedures can be carried out by professionals is the opposite of "barbaric". But don't you worry about silly little things like the definition of words. Not when you can try to appeal to people's emotions with such flowery language. Far more effective.
And some cancer risks are over 50% higher. A revolving door for big pharma.
It goes against The Hippocratic Oath. Especially when it comes to children, who can't consent (by law on a myriad of things), nor is the human brain fully developed until your early 20's.
 
It goes against The Hippocratic Oath. Especially when it comes to children, who can't consent (by law on a myriad of things), nor is the human brain fully developed until your early 20's.
He was so deep in his own "cleverness" (translation: smarmy attitude) that he failed to see what you're talking about here.

Brain development is the only argument needed, but extending that -- some people are saying that children of a certain age can't drive, can't vote, can't join the military, can't smoke, can't buy firearms legally, and can't drink alcohol.... YET they can make irreversible, risky, life-altering changes to their bodies?

Say what? 😂
 

DeepEnigma

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He was so deep in his own "cleverness" (translation: smarmy attitude) that he failed to see what you're talking about here.

Brain development is the only argument needed, but extending that -- some people are saying that children of a certain age can't drive, can't vote, can't join the military, can't smoke, can't buy firearms legally, and can't drink alcohol.... YET they can make irreversible, risky, life-altering changes to their bodies?

Say what? 😂
All while increasing cancer risks and other ailments by the upwards of 50+%? Yeah, those doctors sure are honorary and ethical. Knowing full well the risks that are medically documented, and still proceed anyway with those elective$.
 
It goes against The Hippocratic Oath. Especially when it comes to children, who can't consent (by law on a myriad of things), nor is the human brain fully developed until your early 20's.

the hippocratic oath argument means nothing here, it's just rhetoric...in the same way it can be said that gender affirming surgeries help patients feel more comfortable in their bodies and so it helps them rather than harms them, so just because you don't like it doesn't mean it violates the oath I'm afraid

in terms of children and consent let's look at some examples of this surgery undertaken by children, and are you moving to "children" being anyone under their "early 20s"? is this an advocation of stopping any and all medical surgical procedures on anyone under that age, and if not why is this different?
 

DeepEnigma

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the hippocratic oath argument means nothing here, it's just rhetoric...in the same way it can be said that gender affirming surgeries help patients feel more comfortable in their bodies and so it helps them rather than harms them, so just because you don't like it doesn't mean it violates the oath I'm afraid

in terms of children and consent let's look at some examples of this surgery undertaken by children, and are you moving to "children" being anyone under their "early 20s"? is this an advocation of stopping any and all medical surgical procedures on anyone under that age, and if not why is this different?
Holy shit. The data with the depression and suicide rates not budging one iota is the first takeaway, surgery and hormones, or not. Your entire post is based of feelings and rhetoric, how ironic. Mine is grounded in science and reality based on actual data. A doctor knowingly giving someone in increase of cancer, regardless if the person chooses it, is unethical by definition.

I wonder what other things you hope that children can eventually consent to. Yeah, I fucking said it. Mutilating a child's reproductive system for life, with a major increase in cancers and other ailments, is not the same as "any and all medical procedures."

Leave children alone.
 
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Holy shit. The data with the depression and suicide rates not budging one iota is the first takeaway, surgery and hormones, or not. Your entire post is based of feelings and rhetoric, how ironic. Mine is grounded in science and reality based on actual data. A doctor knowingly giving someone in increase of cancer, regardless if the person chooses it, is unethical by definition.

I wonder what other things you hope that children can eventually consent to. Yeah, I fucking said it. Mutilating a child's reproductive system for life, with a major increase in cancers and other ailments, is not the same as "any and all medical procedures."

Leave children alone.

it is unethical if the risks are not explained and understood and the doctor did the procedure without consent, which if we're still going down the children route then that means both the child and their guardian that also has to consent...I'm not talking about gender affirming surgeries here but in general to do with the ethics of surgery, because you won't provide these examples and we don't know what kind of consultations came beforehand

the rest of your post is just trying to attack me personally, which I guess means you've had enough of trying to talk about this topic
 
Leave children alone.

This.

I honestly think that as fellow humans, we need to be supportive of trans people -- those who have genuine, legitimate gender dysphoria and are suffering because of it. (But again, this gets muddled with the number of simply superficially confused people, opportunists, grifters, etc.)

This support for trans people needs a lot of scientific research, longer term studies, etc. Trying to force this down on everybody as a sociopolitical ideology, as opposed to better known and methodical science, is causing a lot of hurt to those who it claims to want to help.
 

Kraz

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Holy shit. The data with the depression and suicide rates not budging one iota is the first takeaway, surgery and hormones, or not. Your entire post is based of feelings and rhetoric, how ironic. Mine is grounded in science and reality based on actual data. A doctor knowingly giving someone in increase of cancer, regardless if the person chooses it, is unethical by definition.

I wonder what other things you hope that children can eventually consent to. Yeah, I fucking said it. Mutilating a child's reproductive system for life, with a major increase in cancers and other ailments, is not the same as "any and all medical procedures."

Leave children alone.
Rhetoric?
"Won't somebody think of the children!"

The premise that the entire medical infrastructure which does every other medical practice in these developed countries with training, oversight, regulation and analysis has none of that regarding this particular practice seems unlikely. But, as always where there are problems which can be addressed with new understanding and investigation. Not assumptions from incomplete data.

Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.

As for feels. You're the one who appears emotional and trying to rile up emotions.
 
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DeepEnigma

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Rhetoric?
"Won't somebody think of the children!"

The premise that the entire medical infrastructure which does every other medical practice in these developed countries with training, oversight, regulation and analysis has none of that regarding this particular practice seems unlikely. But, as always where there are problems which can be addressed with new understanding and investigation. Not assumptions from incomplete data.

Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.

As for feels. You're the one who appears emotional and trying to rile up emotions.
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Leave children alone.
 
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BeardGawd

Banned
This.

I honestly think that as fellow humans, we need to be supportive of trans people -- those who have genuine, legitimate gender dysphoria and are suffering because of it. (But again, this gets muddled with the number of simply superficially confused people, opportunists, grifters, etc.)

This support for trans people needs a lot of scientific research, longer term studies, etc. Trying to force this down on everybody as a sociopolitical ideology, as opposed to better known and methodical science, is causing a lot of hurt to those who it claims to want to help.
People just need to ACCEPT WHAT THEY ARE. That is the crux of the issue. Society should not be encouraging people adult or child to do surgery instead of just being what you are. If you are a masculine female that is OK. If you are a feminine male that is OK. There is no surgery that is required for these conditions. It's acceptance.
 

Kraz

Banned
Oh, indeed.

Leave children alone.
However, unfortunately for you and any single individual is they aren't the dictator of what parents should be allowed to do. It's peer reviewed and reassessed then regulated and brought to law or politics. It's not decided by outrage of an individual shouting a meaningless "leave children alone".
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
However, unfortunately for you and any single individual is they aren't the dictator of what parents should be allowed to do. It's peer reviewed and reassessed then regulated and brought to law or politics. It's not decided by outrage of an individual shouting a meaningless "leave children alone".
You done?
 
People just need to ACCEPT WHAT THEY ARE. That is the crux of the issue. Society should not be encouraging people adult or child to do surgery instead of just being what you are. If you are a masculine female that is OK. If you are a feminine male that is OK. There is no surgery that is required for these conditions. It's acceptance.

Musk disagrees

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has he bought it yet?
 
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