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[Lazulic]

I think Smash 4 is honestly way more fun to watch then Melee. I can't say about playing on a competitive level since I'm nowhere near good enough at any smash to comment, but I prefer watching Smash 4

because its easier and theres less little details to understand about what high level players are doing, so its easier to look at it and understand choices.

 

[Firemind]

Dude I rarely see people live to 200% health in smash 4..

Just yesterday in the grand final

LOL Sheik's KO potential

 

[WesternHeretic]

I don't recognize any of the players in MvC3 top 8.

Apologyman, Neo, and Ray Ray have been in multiple and I mean multiple top 8 at many majors across the U.S over the last 2-3 years.

 

[Azure J]

What even was that side B Armada? /late

 

[Pappasman]

Fuck off Hbox

 

[LOLDSFAN]

Lol the crowd.

 

[Leunam]

Best music ever.

 

[Papercuts]

Hungrybox needs to stop doing that ledge camping, he's getting blown up constantly.

 

[Aaronrules380]

Honestly, another thing I dislike about watching competitive melee is how much time is spent just running back and forth doing nothing and waiting for an opportunity

 

[Kriken]

Hungrybox: What is this? I don't even-

 

[RellyRell28]

I agree man.. I honestly prefer smash 4.. It's just that Zero dominates everyone because the other top players simply fail against him..

The game isn't a year old though. I seriously doubt Zero will dominate forever.

 

[nubbe]

what is hbox doing??????????

 

[BassForever]

*people complain that Smash 4 is too much of a stall fest*

*people cheer Hbox who is a stall king in Melee*

 

[theprodigy]

Honestly, another thing I dislike about watching competitive melee is how much time is spent just running back and forth doing nothing and waiting for an opportunity

honestly, stop whining and just do something else

 

[bon]

my favorite part is when jigglypuff jumps back and forth while fox runs back and forth

 

[Kouichi]

This camping is just giving Armada free kills.

 

[Geminosity]

Trying to watch this Tekken 7 stream on madcatz and I'm just not feeling it at all. I wish Namco would stop hating on Soul Calibur and give us SC6. That said I'm terrified they'd make it like SC5 which I'm not a fan of at all

 

[Gucci Messiah]

Alright hbox gotta find a way in

 

[Azure J]

Stream quality looking like me trying to stream with stock Elgato software yesterday. :lol

Honestly, another thing I dislike about watching competitive melee is how much time is spent just running back and forth doing nothing and waiting for an opportunity

So, you hate footsies in fighting games?

 

[Revven]

Do we really need a Melee vs Smash 4 discussion? Do we really? :|

 

[J@hranimo]

Rarely do I see HBox fighting to get back on the stage, strange O__o

 

[Hot Coldman]

Hbox's body language right now is hilarious.

 

[Lazulic]

Honestly, another thing I dislike about watching competitive melee is how much time is spent just running back and forth doing nothing and waiting for an opportunity

how many more gripes you got man?

 

[GuardianE]

Armada is so impressive with his movement.

 

[DryEyeRelief]

*people complain that Smash 4 is too much of a stall fest*

*people cheer Hbox who is a stall king in Melee*

i had this convo with parallax last night who kinda missed the point.

unique character, no one actually cares about how you win.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

stream quality lookin like dem 700mb bootleg DVDs of new movies

not that I know anything about that

 

[Pappasman]

If I was Armada I would SD then take him to Yoshi's

 

[BY2K]

Jesus Christ this is lame.

 

[Frankenstrat]

Still missing that Peach.

 

[Gsnap]

I ultimately prefer the ledge game in smash 4. It gives you a lot of options when coming back, but it also gives you a lot of options when defending. People aren't really taking advantage of it right now, but I imagine in time we'll be seeing some pretty intricate edge game as the meta evolves. We'll see defenders go off the ledge more, more defying gravity, more people will learn how to abuse the one frame ledge snap, you'll see more stage spikes and footstools, more ledge trumps setting up denials and spikes.

I mean, you all saw what abadango did with wario yesterday. Very cool ledge game without the need of gimps. Expect more of that I from top players in the future.

 

[Gucci Messiah]

eyyyys are coming out for the ledge grabs lol

 

[Aaronrules380]

because its easier and theres less little details to understand about what high level players are doing, so its easier to look at it and understand choices.

Maybe so, but I honestly don't think complexity makes a game better. I think Melee competitively gets needlessly complex. Not to mention that pretty much every top character in Melee looks similar in basic playstyle. They have different moves that they favor, but it's all basic rushdown with no variety beyond what moves they use to rushdown

 

[Diablohead]

Did hungrybox place a bet on armada to win or something? it's like he wants to lose stocks.

 

[BlackBuzzard]

So Hyzzzzzz.

 

[Kriken]

Do we really need a Melee vs Smash 4 discussion? Do we really? :|

No, although Hungrybox is doing his best Smash 4 impersonation

 

[Floex]

This is horrific ._>

 

[Mass Effect]

HBox with this ledge camping smh

I don't recognize any of the players in MvC3 top 8.

I say that's a good thing.

 

[TheChits]

Do we really need a Melee vs Smash 4 discussion? Do we really? :|

It is always going to happen. Always. It will never become any less stupid

 

[Fugu]

The EYYYs for ledge grabs? Amazing.

 

[Vire]

lol @ the EVO Twitch chat with all the ledge stalling.

 

[K.Sabot]

Armade vs Hungrybox?

Alright time to go watch Tekken 7.

See you guys in 20 minutes kappa

 

[Mumei]

I am, just something like Killer Instinct, MK, and SF are much more easily apparent to see and appreciate the skill on display.

That's understandable. It's not immediately apparent what the players are doing in order to move like that. Any of the individual inputs or moves are fairly simple; the difficulty comes from how tightly they need to be executed, and then actually doing it intelligently. And unlike other fighting games, there's less ability to transfer knowledge from other games onto this game.

I sometimes have that same problem with anime games, because I don't know the mechanics and am not even sure at times what sort of move I'm looking at.

 

[Lynx_7]

Oh boy what an exciting match

 

[Spinosaurus]

Do we really need a Melee vs Smash 4 discussion? Do we really? :|

Seriously. Not the fucking time.

 

[Gucci Messiah]

fishing soooooo hard for a rest

 

[J@hranimo]

Ooooooooooooook then.

 

[Jachaos]

Hate this player/character match up

 

[Anteo]

Armada is gonna time himself out

 

[Hot Coldman]

The EYYYs for ledge grabs? Amazing.

He's going to end up pausing and telling them to shut up. Straight to losers!

 

[RellyRell28]

Slight improvement on the hair