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[A Fish Aficionado]

Maybe it's superhero fatigue, but power poses are just ridic. Do stylized taunts instead.

 

[RobotNinjaHornets]

 

[Jobbs]

I'm really not seeing an issue with that pose.

I just took a glance at things but I'm guessing it's because it's an extremely cliched pose use to minimize women over and over particularly on the cover of things to just tits and ass. "How do we position her to show both her tits and her ass? Oh, here's how" and it's a trope, a cliche. There's a whole history surrounding that particular pose and I kinda understand how it's become distasteful.

Her outfit and general appearance? That's not a problem (in my opinion) It's the particular pose and how that pose has been weaponized over and over

Just a guess I didn't read the article

 

[Misha]

Maybe it's superhero fatigue, but power poses are just ridic. Do stylized taunts instead.

Reminds me that that pose is ripe for the Hawkeye initiative
http://thehawkeyeinitiative.com/

 

[Vazra]

Equal sexualization I say!. Bulge physics for guys and more crotch and butt shots too. Also water dripping on the male chest.

 

[Little Mons†er]

60% the thread is gay

we talk about 20% video games, 30% sex, 48% random nonsense, 2% coming up with percentages to things

Them statistics yo

 

[Granadier]

it looks dumb really.

It does look dumb. Removing it on the basis of it being a dumb looking pose makes sense. Removing it on the basis that the contours of her butt are visible doesn't make much sense to me.

 

[You Know Nothing]

The Lightning Returns dog tried.

 

[Jobbs]

It does look dumb. Removing it on the basis of it being a dumb looking pose makes sense. Removing it on the basis that the contours of her butt are visible doesn't make much sense to me.

there are two components to this, the design/appearance of the character, and the way the game treats the character through camera angles and other directorial decisions. You could overly sexualize or objectify a character in a way that would offend some people with just one of these things and not the other.

I don't have the full context, just a still shot, I don't know what all the camera does or what all the character does, but Overwatch is one of those games that is all inclusive so if something is making some people uncomfortable I would understand the desire to tweak it

 

[Misha]

It does look dumb. Removing it on the basis of it being a dumb looking pose makes sense. Removing it on the basis that the contours of her butt are visible doesn't make much sense to me.

But the purpose of the dumb looking pose is to show her butt. They're directly related

But Yes you can have tasteful pics that have a visible butt contour in them

 

[Granadier]

Equal sexualization I say!. Bulge physics for guys and more crotch and butt shots too. Also water dripping on the male chest.

 

[Vazra]

Give some body hair to some of the DOA guys add a bulge and bulge and muscle physics. Sweat, water and dirt effects improved and Im a happy camper. Oh and give them speedos and thongs and stuff like that for equal fanservice.

 

[You Know Nothing]

Sure is a lot of unironic usage of SJW in that comment section.

Internet comment sections were a mistake. Nothing but trash.

 

[A Fish Aficionado]

It's less offensive than Quiet, but butt pose is dumb. It doesn't even look good on Snake.

 

[FUME5]

When was the last time you saw someone stand facing away fromyou while looking over their shoulder with their but being the most noticeable part of their pose?

Uh, at the beach 2 weeks ago?

I don't have a problem with it being removed, but I don't find anything particularly offensive about it.

I just took a glance at things but I'm guessing it's because it's an extremely cliched pose use to minimize women over and over particularly on the cover of things to just tits and ass. "How do we position her to show both her tits and her ass? Oh, here's how" and it's a trope, a cliche. There's a whole history surrounding that particular pose and I kinda understand how it's become distasteful.

Her outfit and general appearance? That's not a problem (in my opinion) It's the particular pose and how that pose has been weaponized over and over

Just a guess I didn't read the article

Yeah, I understand, but we're fast approaching the point where you are not going to be able to show a female character from any angle that includes their body without someone claiming offense.

 

[Granadier]

Give some body hair to some of the DOA guys add a bulge and bulge and muscle physics. Sweat, water and dirt effects improved and Im a happy camper. Oh and give them speedos and thongs and stuff like that for equal fanservice.

Honestly wouldn't mind that. Sadly the outrage would be enormous.

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butts

Tracer is the only one they have an issue with.

 

[Misha]

Uh, at the beach 2 weeks ago?

You go to weird beaches :|

 

[A Fish Aficionado]

I would like to see the Kimi Raikkonen in videogames instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OsYm1bVbEs

 

[Misha]

butts

Tracer is the only one they have an issue with.

Do male characters have it too? I haven't had the chance to play the game yet so I haven't seen all these yet

 

[Vazra]

Honestly wouldn't mind that. Sadly the outrage would be enormous.

I find it disturbing how people are okay with extreme gore but nudity is a big issue. Men specifically seem really insecure when it comes to nude men or men in little clothing but seem okay with decapitating people or shooting heads off or cutting limbs. We're born naked and we are making something that is natural a big deal. Sure sometimes it can be too much but I dont see much uproar when gore fanservice is made compare to sexy fanservice.

 

[You Know Nothing]

Honestly wouldn't mind that. Sadly the outrage would be enormous.

Case in point:

Are you guys out of your mind?

For istance, I think DoA Xtreme is ridicolous and cringeworthy. You now I'm not biased in stating the following.
I know where this naked man thing cames from. Gays and women are like "we have no problem with your naked chicks so you don't have to get uncinfortable with our naked man. Don't be such a baby." Well gues what? It's common sense that straight men get unconfortable looking at near naked muscolar hairless men. Women have zero problems at looking at other females and profusely compliment each other about their bodies.
Men and women aren't the same. Also straight and gays aren't the same. They like different things and get unconfortable with different things.

Do you like naked men? Have a naked men thing on your own. Why people feel the urge to push their agenda to other people is something I can't understand.

This was linked in the GayGAF thread. I lost brain cells reading it.

 

[FUME5]

You go to weird beaches :|

Someone is wearing a bikini, standing knee deep in the surf and looks back over her shoulder to see where you are is weird to you?

EDIT

That quoted post only serves to highlight that users own insecurities. Like how overtly sexualised female characters with ridiculous proportions may play into the insecurities of girls and women who play games. The fucking idiot.

 

[Silphonica]

Equal sexualization I say!.

Thats my stance on this. We should be embracing sexualisation, not hiding from it.

 

[A Fish Aficionado]

Butts look good on humans. Butt cleavage looks stupid on videogame characters.

 

[jb1234]

That awkward moment when you buy lube at the drug store and the clerk winks at you.

 

[Misha]

Someone is wearing a bikini, standing knee deep in the surf and looks back over her shoulder to see where you are is weird to you?

Yes? Normally people turn around

Thats my stance on this. We should be embracing sexualisation, not hiding from it.

I don't want it in every game though. Make it part of the style and we're cool, randomly add it into a game with an entirely different tone and I'm back to groaning

 

[Transhuman]

I like tall leggy blue eyed blondes though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCub8r1T5Rs

 

[Little Mons†er]

That awkward moment when you buy lube at the drug store and the clerk winks at you.

And then you wink back and whack out a purchase for condoms

 

[Vazra]

Thats my stance on this. We should be embracing sexualisation, not hiding from it.

Nudity is a natural thing and it can be beautiful, funny, uncomfortable depending the media. Films do nudity and it can be used in comedy and romance and people seem to be alright with that but videogames seems like a boys club where they can only choose what is done. Also that content you can pretty much skip ahead if its a cutscenes or make it as optional content to the game. The same way I see people telling others to buy games that meet their "moral values" the same they can do when that kind of fanservice is done. Its all about giving everyone options. There is no need for censorship but to create content that can be enjoyed by everyone. Not every game needs sexualization and not every game needs to be for the boys. There are a lot of markets that can be explored but are not because of fear of the big boys feeling threatened when there is no reason to feel threatened when their games will continue to exist.

 

[FUME5]

Yes? Normally people turn around


I don't want it in every game though. Make it part of the style and we're cool, randomly add it into a game with an entirely different tone and I'm back to groaning

Uh OK.

And yeah, sexualisation of characters certainly has a place, but not in the majority of games.

Anyway, here is a betrayed hamster.

 

[Granadier]

Case in point:

This was linked in the GayGAF thread. I lost brain cells reading it.

"Naked girls are fine because straight men like them and I speak for all girls that they don't mind them. Naked guys are bad because their muscular bodies make my penis tingle."

smh. that post was cancer.

 

[Vazra]

"Naked girls are fine because straight men like them and I speak for all girls that they don't mind them. Naked guys are bad because their muscular bodies make my penis tingle."

smh. that post was cancer.

LOL the smell of insecurity on that post was real.

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

hahahahahahHAHAHAHA

Plane delayed to 9pm.

 

[zeemumu]

Are people trying to justify Dead or Alive Extreme's existence again?

 

[Granadier]

I find it disturbing how people are okay with extreme gore but nudity is a big issue.

Replying to this older post as well because it makes a very, very good point. For example, Mortal Kombat X has pretty much every imaginable evisceration and mutilation to the body possible in graphic HD. If a game has anything sexual though it's hounded.

 

[FUME5]

LOL the smell of insecurity on that post was real.

Damn those near naked muscular hairless men for making him feel this way!

Replying to this older post as well because it makes a very, very good point. For example, Mortal Kombat X has pretty much every imaginable evisceration and mutilation to the body possible in graphic HD. If a game has anything sexual though it's hounded.

I'm guessing that the people who are the most vocal about this are sexually repressed and know they are far more likely to act upon a sexual urge if they consume media that endorses sex / sexuality /sexual activity than they are likely to act upon a violent urge given the same stimulus.

 

[You Know Nothing]

Are people trying to justify Dead or Alive Extreme's existence again?

Nah.

(I don't think this gif will ever stop being funny.)

 

[A Fish Aficionado]

Depends. The ridiculous gore in Bioshock: Infinite or The Last of Us really took away from the experience. In the Last of Us, I had to laugh out loud on just how over the top it was. Especially after an emotionally charged scene.

Although, how something so gory like Hannibal can make it on network TV but a topless shot, or even strong language can be banned is just odd.

 

[Granadier]

I'm guessing that the people who are the most vocal about this are sexually repressed and know they are far more likely to act upon a sexual urge if they consume media that endorses sex / sexuality /sexual activity than they are likely to act upon a violent urge given the same stimulus.

Precisely, which also can be expanded to cover the majority opinion on sex in the States right now.

Depends. The ridiculous gore in Bioshock or The Last of Us really took away from the experience. In the Last of Us, I had to laugh out loud on just how over the top it was. Especially after an emotionally charged scene.

I felt the same with the newer Tomb Raider. The scripted death scenes were just so over the top.

 

[zeemumu]

I skimmed through your conversation on Overwatch butts and all I could think of was this.

 

[Misha]

Replying to this older post as well because it makes a very, very good point. For example, Mortal Kombat X has pretty much every imaginable evisceration and mutilation to the body possible in graphic HD. If a game has anything sexual though it's hounded.

Just to add that asterisk, most sexuality being complained about is cause its disproportionately affecting a certain demographic.

Carry on though cause the overall point is absolutely true

I wonder if anyone has done a top ten (Non-puzzle) games where no one gets killed
I'm having trouble thinking of anything that isn't a kids game

 

[Vazra]

Nah.

(I don't think this gif will ever stop being funny.)

This one kills me. Literal gelatin https://giant.gfycat.com/SmugOblongAtlanticspadefish.gif

Just linking it cause it might be a bit too much.

 

[fengshuifever]

Mornin all!

<wakes up to DOAX talk>

Oh boy.

The series has been dumb from day 1 but I got lost for a second in the crazy of that post.

 

[A Fish Aficionado]

I skimmed through your conversation on Overwatch butts and all I could think of was this.

That's pretty much it.

 

[You Know Nothing]

This one kills me. Literal gelatin https://giant.gfycat.com/SmugOblongA...cspadefish.gif

Not posting it cause it might be a bit too much.

Her Jell-O ass implants were a frightening success!

 

[FUME5]

I wonder if anyone has done a top ten (Non-puzzle) games where no one gets killed
I'm having trouble thinking of anything that isn't a kids game

Uuuuh, if it's not a puzzle, racing or sports game? I can't think of a single one, but some form of conflict is basically required for all genres outside of those three.

 

[zeemumu]

Just to add that asterisk, most sexuality being complained about is cause its disproportionately affecting a certain demographic.

Carry on though cause the overall point is absolutely true

I wonder if anyone has done a top ten (Non-puzzle) games where no one gets killed
I'm having trouble thinking of anything that isn't a kids game

They'd all be racing and sports games and a few platformers.

 

[Granadier]

I skimmed through your conversation on Overwatch butts and all I could think of was this.

I'm dying at Thor covering himself with his cape, hahaha.

Just to add that asterisk, most sexuality being complained about is cause its disproportionately affecting a certain demographic.

Carry on though cause the overall point is absolutely true

I wonder if anyone has done a top ten (Non-puzzle) games where no one gets killed
I'm having trouble thinking of anything that isn't a kids game

Not quite sure what the first part means, (please explain more so I can understand), but I would like to see that list too.

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Similar topic, Witcher 3 did a great job imo of not limiting the sexualization to just the females.

 

[Vazra]

Her Jell-O ass implants were a frightening success!

Thats an unlockable thing. Level 80 on Owner and you unlock strong winds. https://giant.gfycat.com/HonoredAcademicBighorn.gif Here with a skirt on. LMAO

 

[A Fish Aficionado]

Butt cleavage is to sexuality as mature themes meaning gore in videogames.