thekiddfran
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I think he is just stating how shit the textures are in the game regardless of platform
Fallout 4 - Reviews thread
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I think he is just stating how shit the textures are in the game regardless of platform
Ben Moore talked about it in his GameTrailers review. Said it was a step back from the previous system.
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
I think they are tired of the series which is understandable but should not influence your rating. They should rate every game as objectively as possible on its own, how is this game if you have never played one of them.
TheSlySoul
Member
Honestly I had a hard time seeing it on the PS4 footage. I only noticed it on the boss fight DF recorded.
Actually I don't know if you've been gaming when it has been released, but the game was widely praised back then by critics and gamers alike. If you take a look at "helpful" user reviews you'll find out that the most of them are left after 2008 and even 2009. I would say that GTA4 didn't age well and the games to blame for it are RDR and GTA5, both of which addressed the majority of issues and aged better.
So yeah, user reviews can still be invaluable if you invest some time into analyzing the context.
randomengine
Banned
Watching the video review for Gamespot, but cannot help but notice a disconnect between the review score and the spoken review. This looks like an old game, not much improved from Fallout 3...basically a glorified expansion pack.....and after all these years, shouldn't we expect better?
What I enjoy is the clear hypocrisy in play here.
You have complete technical shitshows like Dragon's Dogma; a game with such awful tearing and framerate, I personally couldn't play it due to headaches. However, I constantly see people on GAF heaping praise on that game.
Fallout 4 has occasional frame hitches? WHAT A PIECE OF SHIT.
Fuck off.
You have complete technical shitshows like Dragon's Dogma; a game with such awful tearing and framerate, I personally couldn't play it due to headaches. However, I constantly see people on GAF heaping praise on that game.
Fallout 4 has occasional frame hitches? WHAT A PIECE OF SHIT.
Fuck off.
I mean, have you read the reviews? They read very fairly and they're not bad scores if they use the full 10 point scale which I believe they have started doing.
TBH I think it's the fallout formula that people enjoy. I clearly haven't played the game but there should be minor changes but nothing drastic.
if Fallout 4 had even a tenth of the amazing combat as Dragon's Dogma, it would probably get more of a pass.
That said, I still see tons of people shit on Dragon's Dogma's framerate. Why do you think people have been clamoring for a PC release for so long?
Witcher 3 now has long load times on death on PS4 and it would drop frames at release. I LOVE the game but you'd think with Fallout getting the shit it has the last few days the same would be said for these games.
But no. DD, W3 are games that GAF adores so they get passes.
every time dragons dogma comes up people want a remaster for it because it runs like shit. Not sure how people talked about it at release though
thats just not true either, there are alot of people on gaf that actually stopped playing tw3 because of technical problems and waited for patches to fix stuff. Same goes for bloodborne before anyone brings that up
PHOENIXZERO
Member
Watching the Digital Foundry video aside from the frame rate, good god that shadow fade-in.
TheSlySoul
Member
I was gaming, bought it full price. Think I spent 3 hours before getting bored. PS2 games were the best. GTAV is overall better than 4, so they learned.
So yeah, I do not buy into hype anymore because of it.
Confused Cheeseburger
Member
and...I'm out.
Windom Earle
Member
This thread is getting good now. Rage over an ambitious last gen game.
Watching this PC stream @ 60 fps Ultra, and I cant believe that the game looks like this... the textures are awful...
http://www.twitch.tv/cohhcarnage
http://www.twitch.tv/cohhcarnage
I'm saying that every footage I've seen of the console version I've seen frames dropping. Most reviews are even mentioning it.
So I don't know if Jim has better hardware than us or is just wired to not see them. But frame drops exist in the console versions of Fallout 4.
Hmm, it's almost as if they desperately want the game to fail.
For those on the fence, there will be plenty of impressions over the next few days then you can make up your own mind.
TheOfficeMut
Unconfirmed Member
I'm not trying to detract from people enjoying this game. That's great if they do. I think I, too, will enjoy it when I eventually get my hands on it years from now. But seeing the fluctuating standards some of you have, though they are yours and yours only, are a bit annoying. Bad framerate for a game like this being acceptable? So, in other words, another game with bad framerate may not be acceptable if it's a game or genre you like less? It's not like we are talking a drop from 60 fps to 30 fps, where anything in between is still very much playable, since the lowest standard is always 30 fps. We are talking about dips into the 20s and teens.
I guess what I'm looking for is acknowledgement and acceptance that this game has issues, even if it may be great, instead of excuses.
I guess what I'm looking for is acknowledgement and acceptance that this game has issues, even if it may be great, instead of excuses.
bananafactory
Banned
Pretty much always been the case with Bethesda games - people think they get a pass on technical issues, but the reality is that there is simply so much great stuff in the game that its impossible for any amount of hitches or bugs to really drag down the score.
Glass Shark
Banned
What score would you give it after all the hours you've spent with the game?
Jim Sterling
Member
And I have not, at ANY point, said they don't exist.
enigmatic_alex44
Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
The combat in Dragon's Dogma is overrated and the world sucked plus the few characters in the one lone single ugly town in the game were garbage, and the visuals are Generic Fantasy 101. That game was also a technical MESS.
Fallout series has decent combat and more importantly a huge interesting world and many NPCs to interact with. Plus it's more distinct visually.
You are factually correct, but Jim isn't saying there's no drops, he's saying he hasn't encountered them.
Everyone has different sensitivities to framerate, so it's understandable that Jim could have had drops to 25 and he wouldn't have noticed.
Jim prefaced this with his tweet and people are still arguing lol.
Cyborg
Member
Who gives a fck about metacritics? The worst copy of the game (X1) has the highest rating (91) PS4(90) and PC (89)
Metacritics is just bullshit. Choose 2 or 3 reviewers and read their impressions after that just buy or dont buy the game.
Where are you seeing the 10/10s? Also, how much have you played? You obviously have a score in mind based on what you've played.
old manatee
Banned
Apparently that is exactly what you can do.
Opinions, how do they work.
You just said it's overrated, so that means a lot of people like it.
Destructoid is great.
TheSlySoul
Member
Ignore them, they want to validate their hate for this game.
PS4 version runs fine, but could be better optimized for the effects.
XO version seems to be hindered by the hardware.
Nocturno999
Member
Nice to see the Lazy Devs force still going strong.
I'm really amazed that people like it so much. I honestly find it borderline unplayable.
Horrid, isn't it.
MarmaladeChainsaw
Neo Member
...really?
shinobi602
Member
Shit, more like a glorified demo at that bro.
That is one ugly-ass game.
Wait, people still don't want to accept that the Xbox One is weaker than the PS4? lol
Vincent Grayson
Member
No, I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying if the feature (dialogue) was fine before, and it has changed in interface, yet reviews haven't commented on it, to me that it's a sign that it's perfectly fine. I would expect commentary if it were changed for the worse. Hence my saying "Unless you're being pessimistic...", in which case you're assuming the worst from the outset and miffed that no one has worked to assuage your fears.
