Fallout 4 - Reviews thread

higgsboson1997 said:
That's because most other games that are quite buggy are also nowhere near as immersive or expansive as Bethesda's games are.
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Well said. People should appreciate the long hours and hard work that the people at Bethesda put in to get this title launched. It's a real shame that people have to bash everything to make themselves feel better.
 
Catvoca said:
I think that what happened here is that every site liked the game enough to give it a nine, but the reviewer at destructoid only liked it enough to give it a 7.
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7 POINT 5 I think you'll find

But yeah, I think people forget that reviews are opinions. If technical issues never ruined their specific playthrough (even if they're there, if it doesn't take you out of the game, it's a win), then they'll rate it accordingly and vice versa.

Jim Sterling said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ko9TpduOhE
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Never change
 
Auctopus said:
With the whole "stop buying broken games" crusade this year.

It's ridiculous to hear "maybe the sense of adventure and atmosphere makes up for the bugs" - no sorry, Bethesda doesn't get a free pass.

After nearly every AAA title this year was dragged over the coals for technical issues, this just highlights the double standards fanboys and reviewers give this company.
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Bethesda is such a shit company. They are like CoD or Madden. Releasing the same game over and over. They are just a lot less efficient and competent.
 
Rivyn said:
Gameplay, Atmosphere and Immersion.

Those three things can warrant such scores imo.
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Going off the gameplay of previous Bathesda games? No. Yet they all still managed similarly inflated scores.

The ridiculous amount of floatiness, jank and bugs is more often than not, immersion breaking.

Will have wait until I read some GAF opinions to decide whether or not I'll take the dive. Else I'll wait for a steam sale sometime down the road, and play it through modded.
 
CapitalismSucks DonkeyBalls said:
This is more of what my post was referring to. It's a shame that we sort of shrug our shoulders when Bethesday pulls this crap, but we lambaste developers like CD Project when the Witcher 3 dips to 20 FPS in one single area of the game. The dichotomy is just very, very evident.
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Oh yeah, Witcher 3 got completely blasted around here compared to Fallo-pfffffffffffffffffftlmao

I was wrong, this thread is gonna be great, we just gotta give it time :p
 
Cloyster said:
Another review that doesn't mention the dialogue.
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Sir_Crocodile said:
Metro Gamecentral gave it 8/10:

http://metro.co.uk/2015/11/09/fallout-4-review-war-really-doesnt-change-5488951/

In Short: Its technical faults and lack of innovation are frustrating, but the game underneath is as enthralling and compulsive as anything Bethesda has ever made.

Pros: An amazingly detailed game world, with a secret and surprise around every corner. Excellent upgrade system, crafting, and good variety of companions. Interesting base-building.

Cons: Technically unimpressive, especially in terms of character graphics and frustrating load times. Almost no new ideas. Dialogue and set pieces are often handled clumsily.
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This one does.
 
Mmm the salt...
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Aaron D. said:
Great scores.

Can't wait to dive in.

I still get a chuckle when people suggest the game looks like s**t though. You guys wouldn't have lasted a minute in the 2600/Intellivision generation.
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It seriously does though. Compared to 7 years ago, Fallout 3 had 512mb to work with. Now Fallout 4 has 8GB and a ton more GPU at play. That's a healthy 16x more! Yet when I see the game, the FPS is all over the place, long load times, shite animation, and it's one of the graphically inferior games of the generation so far. When people dreamt of Fallout 4, I guarantee they envisioned better graphics than what we are getting.

I am a graphics man, I buy new consoles to experience richer worlds. Fallout 4 falls flat in this regard.
 
Fairfax said:
PCWorld

This isn’t the step forward I expected, though. Here we are, the first Bethesda game on a new hardware generation, and I can’t help feeling like we’ve regressed—like Fallout 4 really is Oblivion-with-guns. A decade later, it certainly makes many of the same mistakes.

7/10
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They JUST figured this out ? Fallout has literally been Oblivion with guns for 7 years now.
 
Cloyster said:
Another review that doesn't mention the dialogue.
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Yup. I suspect most gaming journos pay attention for the first 10 hours or so and then skip everything that's not the main story. Even the ones who didn't like the game all that much don't mention it as neither good nor bad.
 
Farks! said:
Also because switching engine doesn't magically solve all problems and make bugs go away. In fact, it could make it worse since they would be working from scratch. And most new game engines are updated versions of old ones anyway, so.
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I understand how engines work.
But this has been an issue with every Bethesda game that uses Gamebroyo. This engine is technically a new engine and is even called something different but that does not change the fact that it still has persisting issues from a decade ago. That should tell you that something is wrong here.

Switching engine with a goal to avoid the problems of Gamebroyo will most certainly help and improve the situation.

Yes most new engines work upon existing ones to overcome the issues but since Bethesda has not been able to do it for this long it definitely means it's an unsolvable issue with Gamebroyo due to the way it handles the content...if it wasn't an inherent problem then they would have fixed it ages ago.
 
I expect the reasons for the graphics not being amazing is because Bethesda needs to invest in a new engine. Just a hunch.
Edit: Screen above judging the game still looks nice.
 
Does anyone else think Todd Howard looks like he would have bullied you in high school and take all your lunch money?

Don't really have anything to say about the reviews I'm just wondering if anyone agrees.
 
BacklashWave534 said:
Well said. People should appreciate the long hours and hard work that the people at Bethesda put in to get this title launched. It's a real shame that people have to bash everything to make themselves feel better.
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You mean people giving opinions on a video game forum? What a crazy concept!

Most people stated gameplay would be fun, but had concerns in regards to the visuals, the same concerns mentioned in many of these reviews.

Personally, not too happy about the changes in dialogue myself, but gonna see if I get alternate choices with my character.
 
Fairfax said:
Yup. I suspect most gaming journos try to read them for the first 10 hours or so and then skip everything that's not the main story. Even the ones who didn't like the game all that much don't mention it as neither good nor bad.
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Is there a single reviewer than tries to play as a charismatic person?

I literally haven't seen a single dialogue skill check in all the videos I've seen. Do they even exist?
 
silvermember said:
What is, their graphics? Nope.
Animation? Nope
Has lower than avg # of bugs ? Nope, it has been consistently high for decades.
Story and characters? Ha.
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It may be hard to fathom but people may really really enjoy the gameplay, the exploration and world-building and atmosphere, the RPG elements, and all that stuff
 
The game is simply greater than the sum of its parts.

I really like how Game Trailers put it in their review:

"Fallout 4 is flawed in some serious ways but playing it is the only thing we want to do"
 
Auctopus said:
With the whole "stop buying broken games" crusade this year.

It's ridiculous to hear "maybe the sense of adventure and atmosphere makes up for the bugs" - no sorry, Bethesda doesn't get a free pass.

After nearly every AAA title this year was dragged over the coals for technical issues, this just highlights the double standards fanboys and reviewers give this company.
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People do this for every AAA series until it is their favorite one. For me this just highlights that review scores are nothing more than weapons for message board fodder.
 
More_Badass said:
It may be hard to fathom but people may really really enjoy the gameplay, the exploration and world-building and atmosphere, the RPG elements, and all that stuff
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Not that hard to fathom considering all the justifying and hand waving going on by people like you. We get it you like the series and ignoring major flaws is part of blindly liking bethsoft games.
 
wanderjahr said:
Glitchfest huh with major fps issues? Yeah, I'll pass.

Bethesda needs to clean up their act. With open-world games like Witcher 3 out there raising the bar, there is no excuse for Bethesda to deliver F4 looking like and playing like poo.
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I bought Witcher 3 day one and couldn't actually play it until about a month ago because of bugs. They did raise the bar that they fixed all those glitches and shit, but they didn't before the game came out.

Jim Sterling said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ko9TpduOhE
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They knew!
 
More_Badass said:
It may be hard to fathom but people may really really enjoy the gameplay, the exploration and world-building and atmosphere, the RPG elements, and all that stuff
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Maybe if any of the reviews felt like they actually went indepth into the "world building and atmosphere".

There is a lot to NV that I'm not seeing in any gameplay videos, and no reviews I've checked are talking about it.

I have no problem with a game reviewing well, but it's frustrating.
 
silvermember said:
Not that hard to fathom considering all the justifying and hand waving going on by people like you. We get it you like the series and ignoring major flaws is part of blindly liking bethsoft games.
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Heeeeey

Solid Samus said:
Odds are some will have to deal with implications that they're naive enablers or blinded fanboys for expressing the notion that they'll probably enjoy the game regardless.
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Shocked

oh wait, silvermember. not shocked
 
Man. Great scores. But as suspected for console owners the game is still buggy (dat shadow distance and frame drops).

PC is definitely the way to go. Too bad I actually gotta build one now.
 
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