Fallout 4 - Reviews thread

outunderthestars said:
People do this for every AAA series until it is their favorite one. For me this just highlights that review scores are nothing more than weapons for message board fodder.
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Absolutely correct. Review scores need to go away. Honestly watching a Twitch stream for a few minutes is a much better way to form your own opinion. Review scores do nothing more than feed the trolls!
 
Cloyster said:
Another review that doesn't mention the dialogue.
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The FZ.se review (swedish) claims that it's the best written Bethesda game to date, but that doesn't really say much.

nOoblet16 said:
I understand how engines work.
But this has been an issue with every Bethesda game that uses Gamebroyo. This engine is technically a new engine and is even called something different but that does not change the fact that it still has persisting issues from a decade ago. That should tell you that something is wrong here.

Switching engine with a goal to avoid the problems of Gamebroyo will most certainly help and improve the situation.

Yes most new engines work upon existing ones to overcome the issues but since Bethesda has not been able to do it for this long it definitely means it's an unsolvable issue with Gamebroyo due to the way it handles the content...if it wasn't an inherent problem then they would have fixed it ages ago.
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Fair enough.
 
Deadly Cyclone said:
Here are a few shots from my game on PC (ultra settings). Environments look great.
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Have me feeling like Ryback when I say "feed me more!"


It looks great. It sucks PC has this exploit and some console gamers who bout it and got the physical copy early can play but for those who preordered digitally on console has to wait until the exact time of release.
 
God, so torn between saving up for this or Star Wars: Battlefront. I'm one of those guys who can only afford like, two games a year.
 
CassCade said:
Lol, I'll admit that this is reviewing way better than I thought it would. The salt people must be eating right now.
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Apart from deluded fools, I think most people were expecting good reviews. All previous Bethesda games got rated well, even with all the game breaking bugs, clipping and save issues.

A lot of people were just expecting the review community to call out those issues that greatly impair enjoyment in such an interactive medium.

Personally, I think those should affect scores, but that said I really don't care about numbers. And I've enjoyed previous Bethesda games, but only after the community fixed all the errors. But I guess it is the same community that gives them free pass in any case.
 
TheSixthAxis - 9/10

Fallout 4 is hugely ambitious and without a doubt one of the best games this year. It’s not without its flaws, but very few games made me care more about what I was picking up, how to use it, what choices I made, and even the communities I’d founded. By streamlining some mechanics, Bethesda has made room for other more complex ideas. If you can forgive a few technical imperfections, of which there aren’t as many as prior instalments, Fallout 4 exceeds all expectations.
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PetriP-TNT said:
Jim spill it out, how much dirty Bethesda money did you get for your framerate lies

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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You know those Nuka Cola Quantums Target will be selling?

Mississippi Targets won't be selling them.

'Cos they're ALL in my garage.

#Ethics #Collusion #DiabetesInGamesJournalism
 
Sgt.Pepper said:
Apart from deluded fools, I think most people were expecting good reviews. All previous Bethesda games got rated well, even with all the game breaking bugs, clipping and save issues.

A lot of people were just expecting the review community to call out those issues that greatly impair enjoyment in such an interactive medium.

Personally, I think those should affect scores, but that said I really don't care about numbers. And I've enjoyed previous Bethesda games, but only after the community fixed all the errors. But I guess it is the same community that gives them free pass in any case.
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This free pass narrative you all have built up for yourselves is fucking baffling. I guess most of you forgot that there was a Fallout community here before a week ago, and many of them practically never skipped a chance to act critically toward Bethesda. Myself included, at times.

Jebusman said:
Isn't it fun? Watching the things you like about a franchise slowly disappear without nary a peep from reviewers?

Realizing that the things you like about games are no longer the things other people like about games, and when the game shifts from that old fanbase to it's new one, there's no room for you.

You either learn to like it, or take solice in the games that came before.
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I don't know what you heard but we ain't cool with that kind of bullshit around here. Knowing what you like might as well be elitism, after all! You'll play your Fallout 4, and your Smash 4, and your Halo 5, and you're gonna fuckin like it
 
Cloyster said:
Maybe if any of the reviews felt like they actually went indepth into the "world building and atmosphere".

There is a lot to NV that I'm not seeing in any gameplay videos, and no reviews I've checked are talking about it.

I have no problem with a game reviewing well, but it's frustrating.
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Isn't it fun? Watching the things you like about a franchise slowly disappear without nary a peep from reviewers?

Realizing that the things you like about games are no longer the things other people like about games, and when the game shifts from that old fanbase to it's new one, there's no room for you.

You either learn to like it, or take solice in the games that came before.
 
Molemitts said:
Does anyone else think Todd Howard looks like he would have bullied you in high school and take all your lunch money?

Don't really have anything to say about the reviews I'm just wondering if anyone agrees.
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I think anyone over 100 pounds would have been safe from Todd Howard's high school bullying.
 
Arthur Gies said:
In turn, it's exponentially more complicated than the Enclave vs. Brotherhood of Steel narrative from Fallout 3 or even the mangled amnesia plot line of New Vegas.
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Okay so this isn't me trying to go "oh man this review is invalid because he misremembered something from a 5 year old game," but New Vegas didn't involve amnesia at all, haha.
 
outunderthestars said:
People do this for every AAA series until it is their favorite one. For me this just highlights that review scores are nothing more than weapons for message board fodder.
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More or less. If anything I hope this just means people will actually read more of the reviews and ignore the scores and make their own decisions. I know they won't but that would be cool if they did.
 
Jebusman said:
Isn't it fun? Watching the things you like about a franchise slowly disappear without nary a peep from reviewers?

Realizing that the things you like about games are no longer the things other people like about games, and when the game shifts from that old fanbase to it's new one, there's no room for you.

You either learn to like it, or take solice in the games that came before.
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It makes me sad :(
 
Our review:

Ridble.com - 9/10 (Italian)

Fallout 4 represents exactly the game we were waiting for so badly. Not only for the thrilling story or the amazing atmospheres that made the predecent title a real masterpiece,
but especially because Bethesda was able to renovate and fix where the chances were low. The result is a potentially endless game, in which we'll have the opportunity
to spend hundreds of hours immersed in a unique adventure, surrounded by so many things to do that improve this fourth chapter of the saga to an exponential level.
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how can anyone give a game that constantly dips to 25 FPS a 9/10, this may have been somewhat the norm and acceptable last gen, but now it's just not.
 
Sir_Crocodile said:
Metro Gamecentral gave it 8/10:

http://metro.co.uk/2015/11/09/fallout-4-review-war-really-doesnt-change-5488951/

In Short: Its technical faults and lack of innovation are frustrating, but the game underneath is as enthralling and compulsive as anything Bethesda has ever made.

Pros: An amazingly detailed game world, with a secret and surprise around every corner. Excellent upgrade system, crafting, and good variety of companions. Interesting base-building.

Cons: Technically unimpressive, especially in terms of character graphics and frustrating load times. Almost no new ideas. Dialogue and set pieces are often handled clumsily.
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This is what I would expect from a review, well handled.

If you like Bethesda games, then you will find more to enjoy here, but doesn't gloss over the glaring issues like some of the mainstream review outlets would.
 
Solid Samus said:
This free pass narrative you all have built up for yourselves is fucking baffling. I guess most of you forgot that there was a Fallout community here before a week ago, and many of them didn't ever skip a chance to act critically toward Bethesda. Myself included.
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Not at all. I'm part of that community, so I dunno what you are on about.

Bethesda games are really big, and bugs are expected. But I'm very critical about the fact it still has the issues that have plagued them since Oblivion.

Nothing wrong to expect better from Bethesda about that in particular. I'm pretty sure I'll enjoy this game a lot.
 
CaptainAhab said:
I promised to buy it and give it a fair shake if it scored above an 85 on metacritic. I'm giving them the same deal they gave Obsidian.
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I was going to say that using metacritic as a deciding factor in checking something out is stupid but that's pretty funny reasoning.
 
TheDanger said:
how can anyone give a game that constantly dips to 25 FPS a 9/10, this may have been somewhat the norm and acceptable last gen, but now it's just not acceptable.
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Actually, if anything it's MORE acceptable this gen, because people were conditioned to it last gen. People are no longer "shocked" about it, it's the status quo. So it's now the baseline, and anything actually achieving it's FPS goal (whether it be 30 or 60) is considered a bonus rather than the expected experience.
 
I'm enjoying the fact the before this thread, everyone was predicting the excuses the Bethesda fanboys were gonna make for poor reviews.

And now this thread comes along and a large portion of it is bunch of people making excuses for the good reviews.

I'm interested to see how it turns out. I could never get into Fallout 3 or New Vegas but part of that was just because I really sucked at them.
 
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