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Fallout New Vegas |OT| Obsidian does what Bethesdon't

Steeven

Member
Have to revise my opinion on this game. For the first hours playing this, I thought it wasn't better than Fallout 3. But after playing several more, the game really shows its potential. There's a lot more stuff to find on the map, so exploring is actually fun.
I ran into this crashed plane which was guarded by a small army of robots. Found myself a rather strange but powerful energy gun too.
. Furthermore, I care about the factions. The faction system is nice and gives the game alot more depth than F3 had. In the first few hours the quests and stuff aren't that special, but it pays off to play through it to really enjoy the game.

Oh and the music is mindblowing. Love it. Really adds to the experience. Definitely one of the better games that got released this year.
 

Lakitu

st5fu
Confidence Man said:
Usually in mailboxes or on tables. If you mean the books that permanently improve skills those are pretty rare, I've found four or five in 30 hours. That perk is far more useful for the temporary +20 boost it gives for the more common skill buffing books.

I had no idea where there were books that could permanently improve skills until I looked in my inventory to check my weight and saw about 8 of them, so I used them all. It was a nice surprise.

And that NCR Ranger armor, is it hard to get?
 
So ive just started this game (finally received my copy from Zavvi), im level 3. I went out of town, killed a few powder gangers, then fast travelled back to Goodsprings.....

... to find a DEATHCLAW running towards Easy Pete, cutting his head off, then turns around and takes me out in 1. WTF ?

Edit - Also, game runs like shit on my GTX 460 :S
 
Lakitu said:
I had no idea where there were books that could permanently improve skills until I looked in my inventory to check my weight and saw about 8 of them, so I used them all. It was a nice surprise.

And that NCR Ranger armor, is it hard to get?

It's tricky to get without NCR going to war with you, as you have to kill one of them to get it.
 
Ok I go to Hidden Valley to visit the
Brotherhood
and they just shoot at me. I am not wearing any armor and never saw them before so i have no idea what their problem is.
 

Barrett2

Member
Need some help. I feel like i may have missed some armor along the way. I am getting absolutely destroyed when i try to explore vaults and do combat-heavy quests, despite having very high Gun skills.

Anybody want to tell me where i can find some decent armor?
 

Ledsen

Member
Ogs said:
So ive just started this game (finally received my copy from Zavvi), im level 3. I went out of town, killed a few powder gangers, then fast travelled back to Goodsprings.....

... to find a DEATHCLAW running towards Easy Pete, cutting his head off, then turns around and takes me out in 1. WTF ?

Edit - Also, game runs like shit on my GTX 460 :S

Download this and this and you'll be sorted.
 
Ogs said:
So ive just started this game (finally received my copy from Zavvi), im level 3. I went out of town, killed a few powder gangers, then fast travelled back to Goodsprings.....

... to find a DEATHCLAW running towards Easy Pete, cutting his head off, then turns around and takes me out in 1. WTF ?

Edit - Also, game runs like shit on my GTX 460 :S

:lol

I guess it wandered out of the quarry. Shit happens.
 

avcables

Banned
TheExecutive said:
Ok I go to Hidden Valley to visit the
Brotherhood
and they just shoot at me. I am not wearing any armor and never saw them before so i have no idea what their problem is.

You might've made some story decisions prior to going to Hidden Valley that negatively affected you with their faction. Check your stats to see how you're aligned with them.

Confidence Man said:
It's tricky to get without NCR going to war with you, as you have to kill one of them to get it.

You can set the game to Very Easy, put some non-NCR faction armor on your companion, have your companion kill the NCR Ranger wearing the black armor and not lose faction with NCR.

lawblob said:
Need some help. I feel like i may have missed some armor along the way. I am getting absolutely destroyed when i try to explore vaults and do combat-heavy quests, despite having very high Gun skills.

Anybody want to tell me where i can find some decent armor?

I've been using some cheap light armor the whole game and haven't had a problem. Any armor with more DT is usually way too heavy and slows me down too much. Focus more on powering up your weapons so you can take them out before they can even hurt you.


LabouredSubterfuge said:
:lol

I guess it wandered out of the quarry. Shit happens.

What's funny about this is I didn't have to finish the fight at the end of the Goodsprings series of quests. A deathclaw wandered from up north down to the town right around the time when I was running back to town to take care of them and ended up killing all of those guys before the even started walking down the road.
 

duckroll

Member
TheExecutive said:
Ok I go to Hidden Valley to visit the
Brotherhood
and they just shoot at me. I am not wearing any armor and never saw them before so i have no idea what their problem is.

They're bastards. Just kill them all! :D
 

duckroll

Member
avcables said:
You can set the game to Very Easy, put some non-NCR faction armor on your companion, have your companion kill the NCR Ranger wearing the black armor and not lose faction with NCR.

You can also "arrange" it such that during a certain quest event (if you decide to do it) you don't stop the assassin(s) immediately and allow one of the Rangers to get killed in the process. Then loot his body later. :lol
 

avcables

Banned
duckroll said:
They're bastards. Just kill them all! :D

This is true. They put a fucking
slave collar
on you when you first meet them. Racist ass motherfuckers. Make sure you
self-destruct their base
, too. :D I took a separate save file just to walk that path.
 
Temptation to just finish the game was too great, so I did.

Here is my path through the game:

Always helped the NCR.
I killed Benny, told Yes Man I would help him, killed Mr. House. Disabled the robots in his bunker.
Alligned myself with the Boomers and Khans, telling the NCR they'd help out.
I did the missions for the Brotherhood of Steel but couldn't get them to allign themselves with the NCR, so I blew up their reactor.
Never did anything for the Legion. Shot every one I saw on sight.

Overall the ending was really, really weak I thought. Just
running across the Dam shooting lots of Legion dudes. Hardly thrilling. The B52 moment was awesome, and about the only thing that made me think that bothering to allign myself with anybody else was actually worth it. At the end I used my speech skill to talk down the guy because that seemed more interesting than blowing his head off.
I do like how they showed the impact of all your actions in the credits, but I don't think that justifies fucking you over and not allowing you to continue the game. There's no valid reason for it other than to sell you a better ending via DLC - again.

Bad ending aside, I thought the narrative, characters and quests were all a lot better than in Fallout 3. I loved the choice of factions, also.

However, I didn't feel quite the same magic I did with the Capital Wasteland. Maybe it's just because I played Fallout 3 for an ungodly amount of time, or because New Vegas reuses so many things and looks nearly identical, but yeah. I didn't stumble upon as many cool things as I did in 3 and the Strip was really disappointing. Just a few big casinos and that's it. The decimated city of Washington was much more interesting as the big landmark of the game world.

With that said, I'm only 25 hours in and level 26, so I'm sure as I go back and do the stuff I missed originally my opinion on some of these aspects will change.

Oh, and I only had the game crash on me once and only one quest glitched on me, which was quite lucky.
 

knitoe

Member
Marvie_3 said:
Ah. Haven't seen them yet. :D
They only appear after finishing a certain part of the main quest. Because I was ignoring the them for the most part, the armor only appear for me at lvl 24.
 

Marvie_3

Banned
knitoe said:
They only appear after finishing a certain part of the main quest. Because I was ignoring the them for the most part, the armor only appear for me at lvl 24.
I'm maybe halfway through the main quest. Most of my time has been spent exploring.
 

Zerokku

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?
TheExecutive said:
Ok I go to Hidden Valley to visit the
Brotherhood
and they just shoot at me. I am not wearing any armor and never saw them before so i have no idea what their problem is.

Do you have a companion with you that might be wearing something affiliated with another faction?
 
Jax said:
Purifier is mostly useless as by the time you get up to LVL18, the things it can kill well, you can already, kill well.
Deathclaws, Super Mutants, and Feral Ghoul Reavers have some of the highest HP in the game. Damage boosts against them are great. You are wrong.

Jax said:
action boy should be in there.
Total AP isn't important because you can enter VATS as many times as you want. VATS is an auto-aiming system, it doesn't provide more benefit for using it in longer bursts. AP regen is what you should want more of.

Jax said:
rapid reloads is useless imo.
Faster reloading = more sustained DPS, unless you plan on never reloading (lol). Simple math. You are again wrong and make no points to back yourself up with.
 

Dresden

Member
Dabanton said:
Going to finally start this later what are people's suggestions for the skill selection
I think every first-time NV character needs Speech. It's so good.

Guns are the easiest and most plentiful weapon to use.

Lockpicks are the most numerous obstacles. Or you can take Repair or Sneak. Either way, Guns+Speech is enough most of the time.

Faster reloading = more sustained DPS, unless you plan on never reloading (lol). Simple math. You are again wrong and make no points to back yourself up with.
What the fuck are you going on about? This isn't WoW, you're not trying to hit a certain dps level. It's all about burst damage in NV, who the fuck cares about reloading.
 

Arozay

Member
So I reload my save right before triggering the finale and the north gate of the strip is locked and Boone and ED-E are stuck at the gate (since I told them to go back to the Lucky 38 and they can't) and whenever I quick travel there they end up fighting with the Securitrons for no reason and dying...
 
Dresden said:
What the fuck are you going on about? This isn't WoW, you're not trying to hit a certain dps level. It's all about burst damage in NV, who the fuck cares about reloading.
On very hard you'll be doing plenty of reloading unless you outgear/outlevel the opponent.
 

Dresden

Member
mjemirzian said:
Right. I'll be looking forward to your Very Hard playthrough where you never reload. Send me video.
Very Hard isn't even very hard. :lol Rapid Reload sucks ass. 25% reduction to what is already a pretty negligible time period, in a game where almost everything dies before you reload--and if they don't, you're doing it wrong for most enemies, even on V.Hard--arguing about sustained DPS is foolish as hell.
 
Dresden said:
Very Hard isn't even very hard. Rapid Reload sucks ass. 25% reduction to what is already a pretty negligible time period, in a game where almost everything dies before you reload--and if they don't, you're doing it wrong for most enemies, even on V.Hard--arguing about sustained DPS is foolish as hell.
Reloading on some weapons can take a few seconds, actually. Most of the 6 shooter pistols that are reloaded one bullet at a time take a while. And I'm glad you somehow found a way to play the game where only one enemy attacks you at a time.

There are better perks but I'm not sure if I can spare the skill points for them (slayer, concentrated fire, living anatomy, etc.)
 

duckroll

Member
Can't we just agree that there are totally different valid solutions to a problem? If someone wants to play a character with slow revolvers and to shoot big bullets into enemies one bullet at a time, rapid reload could certainly help. Sure, you can instead play with energy weapons, or sniper rifles, or melee, and rapid reload would be totally useless. But that's like saying Survival and Repair is totally useless just because you don't want to play a character like that.

NV offers many solutions to every problem to promote role playing. It's about how a player wants to approach any given situation, and it's important that there are multiple skills and solutions out there which support every single type of play. In a CRPG, it's not just about being able to beat the game, or having a single right solution to a problem, it's about being able to create a certain type of character, and role play with the sort of skills you want to crave a unique experience.
 

Jerk

Banned
Dresden said:
Very Hard isn't even very hard. :lol Rapid Reload sucks ass. 25% reduction to what is already a pretty negligible time period, in a game where almost everything dies before you reload--and if they don't, you're doing it wrong for most enemies, even on V.Hard--arguing about sustained DPS is foolish as hell.

I do not like Rapid Reload, but its usefulness very much depends on which weapon you are using.

Ex: If you are using Magnums on a regular basis, you need rapid reload as those things take an absurd amount of time to reload.
 
mjemirzian said:
Deathclaws, Super Mutants, and Feral Ghoul Reavers have some of the highest HP in the game. Damage boosts against them are great. You are wrong.
Wait, there are Feral Ghoul Reavers?

Dear God, if there are Albino Radscorpions I'm going to dig a hole and hide in it.
 

Dresden

Member
Jerk 2.0 said:
I do not like Rapid Reload, but its usefulness very much depends on which weapon you are using.

Ex: If you are using Magnums on a regular basis, you need rapid reload as those things take an absurd amount of time to reload.
He's talking about an optimal build for damage, in which case he'd probably avoid those weapons. If he just said "I like rapid reload" I'd have no problems. But he brought it up as the best build, and as usual was a bit of an ass to anyone that disagreed.

Ironic that I'm an ass too for replying in that manner, but hey.

duckroll's right, of course.
 

BeeDog

Member
Holy shit, just randomly stumbled upon the Dead Wind Cavern at level 12 and with shitty equipment (Service Rifle!).

...

:(

This game is entirely different from Fallout 3, balance-wise. And I like it.
 
I'd take something like living anatomy or slayer over rapid reload, but I'd end up having to give up skill points elsewhere. Not sure if that's worth it yet. Rapid Reload is still a useful perk because you don't start the game with a sniper rifle and you will run into situations where there are groups of tough enemies and you can't kill them all fast enough to last just one clip. I'd probably get rid of commando or sniper first.. they don't seem to help much where accuracy really matters (sniper rifles).
 

duckroll

Member
mjemirzian is a very.... aggressive member. Arguing him can be very painful sometimes unless you have Speech at 100 and Perception over 7 at least. :lol
 

Jerk

Banned
Dresden said:
He's talking about an optimal build for damage, in which case he'd probably avoid those weapons. If he just said "I like rapid reload" I'd have no problems. But he brought it up as the best build, and as usual was a bit of an ass to anyone that disagreed.

Ironic that I'm an ass too for replying in that manner, but hey.

duckroll's right, of course.

Yeah, most certainly.

I use shotguns and rifles exclusively and have not yet run into a situation where either reloaded too slowly.
 

Lakitu

st5fu
BeeDog said:
Holy shit, just randomly stumbled upon the Dead Wind Cavern at level 12 and with shitty equipment (Service Rifle!).

...

:(

This game is entirely different from Fallout 3, balance-wise. And I like it.

Yeah... got annihilated there. I'm going to return at a higher level. I'm not ready to take on the Deathclaws yet, I'm level 19 now... so I guess it'll be soon... gulp
 

GDGF

Soothsayer
fizzelopeguss said:
The 6 shooters and lever action rifles and shotguns are a ton of fun in this game.

Fuck yeah. I've got a lot of weapons at this point, but I always seem to stick with my handy Cowboy Repeater rifle. I need to give it a name :lol
 
GDGF said:
Fuck yeah. I've got a lot of weapons at this point, but I always seem to stick with my handy Cowboy Repeater rifle. I need to give it a name :lol
Tis a fine gun, love the iron sight on that bad boy.
 

BlueTsunami

there is joy in sucking dick
Confidence Man said:
It's tricky to get without NCR going to war with you, as you have to kill one of them to get it.

I wonder, would slipping a grenade in one of their pockets have the same effect as openly shooting them? (as far as being vilified).
 
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