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Fallout New Vegas |OT| Obsidian does what Bethesdon't
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afternoon delight
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Holy hell, the
is the best shack ever. :lol 
Nothing like being rewarded that well for traversing all the way up the damn mountain. Cazadors do not quit, and the six or so outside gave me hell. Still. At level 15, this is a boon to have such an item.
Counterfeit Beer Brewing shack
Nothing like being rewarded that well for traversing all the way up the damn mountain. Cazadors do not quit, and the six or so outside gave me hell. Still. At level 15, this is a boon to have such an item.
Joe Molotov
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Wallach said:
So is this the patch? The comprehensive patch that supposed to fix everything?
Wallach said:
Anything about returning companions? I lost E-DE ages ago, so now I'm just rolling with Rex. Also, stuff like not being to finish Raul's quest because I learned the Ranger's takedown ages ago and Boone not carrying his hunting rifle for some reason. Hopefully there are fixes for these.
Don't like that they nerfed the sniper rifles, hope they aren't too bad.
Lakitu said:
According to the GECK, the multiplier on the stock SR is now 1x (which is what it should be really) but the DAM is lower than I expected (42).
Supposedly missing companions were fixed; people were reporting they were "back", but at the very least it should never occur on new playthroughs due to the change in how they travel when dismissed.
Lakitu said:
No problem. It appears that the Gobi was also nerfed in DAM so that the discrepancy in damage is still the same (so 40 to the SRs 42) though I haven't checked it in GECK to see what the multiplier is. Personally I just like the rifle for the unspoken backstory but I suspect a lot of people were not carrying it for that reason...
Wallach said:
I thought that might be the case too, shame really as it is easily the most rewarding rifle in the game and yeah, for the reason you mentioned. I guess the sniper rifles are more similar to Fallout 3 now. Which I guess isn't too bad, since I have no problems with them in that. I always get sneak critical damage, 60-80% of the time with one head shot.
Lakitu said:
That isn't really going to change, though. That's really the reason why the multiplier didn't make sense; the SR - especially silenced - is probably the easiest weapon in the game to get sneak criticals with.
If you're looking for a suitable replacement you should probably pick up a Trail Carbine as it is a phenomenal weapon that got overlooked due to the poor balance on the SRs. The Brush Gun is also a fantastic weapon if supplemented with the Cowboy perk.
Edit - Other stuff I've seen that has yet to be posted (thanks for the shitty changelog Obsidian):
- Plasma Rifle base damage is now 45 (previously 32)
Wallach said:
I'm definitely willing to give the Trail Carbine a try. I've barely used it, but I'm really more of a long-distance weapon user, with a focus on sneak critical attacks and stealth boys, is there a scope mod available for it anywhere?
And pretty good news about Plasma Rifle damage, I thought it was ridiculously underpowered in this.
Lakitu said:
Yes, the Trail Carbine can be outfitted with a scope. It is affected by Cowboy as well which makes it a beast (about as close as you're going to get to the old SR sans silencer).
What's funny is that I think a lot of people will stop using the Gobi after this patch, and I wonder how many of them will just give it to Boone... :lol
Jerk 2.0 said:
I just think the idea is depressing. It seems implied that
the Gobi is the weapon Boone used to kill his wife.
The YCS will definitely be the king of single-shot damage. The AMR will find a more rightful place amongst the Guns category for that purpose as well.
Wallach said:
So it has a scope, pretty cool. I'll have to be on the lookout for it.
Never picked Cowboy, as I was never a big user of revolvers / lever action rifles. I guess, the next time I'll level up after Dead Money, that'll be one of the first perks I'll think of.
I'll definitely be sticking to the Gobi, it was probably too overpowered in the first place, it'll probably make things more interesting. I mainly use it on human enemies anyway. Anti-Material for Deathclaws and Ratslayer for lower-priority targets. Hunting rifle + scope utilises .308 rounds and is pretty damn powerful, plus it's much easier to repair than the Gobi / SR with the jury rigging perk. That, and I'll give the Trail Carbine a go when I find a scope mod. Those are two things I could fall back on.
But, I'll never give up my Gobi, we've been through so much together. From taking out all the Great Khans at Red Rock to taking out the Legion at Cottonwood Cove. Even a few double kills. Treasured memories. <3 Gobi
Wiggum2007
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This Machine 4 Life! Though I guess without a scope it's not much of a SR replacement.
Been playing through Fallout 2 in preparation for the patch and going back to New Vegas. Didn't think it possible, but Unarmed/Melee is pretty good, you just have to spec right because you live and die off of critical hits. I've got Sulik, Marcus, Vic, and Cassidy. They work well when they actually do work, for some reason they spend alot of turns just walking around or in the case of Cassidy shooting me in the back with the Pancor Jackhammer. Now that I've got Power Armor, things should be a breeze from here.
MrTroubleMaker
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niceWallach said:
Found that after the patch, all of the guards at the Silver Rush had their primary weapons reduced to 0 condition. If you kill the one out front (who will have to engage you with fists because his Plasma Rifle is broken) and the others come outside to fight you, there aren't any weapons for them to pick up so they'll all be stuck with fists unless they got a random spawn of a secondary weapon in their inventory (like a Plasma Pistol).
Edit - It's worse than I thought, actually. Any NPCs that spawn with certain weapons that were updated by the patch will now spawn with 0 condition weapons (NCR, Brotherhood, Powder Gangers etc). Be prepared for a lot of fisticuffs until this is fixed.
Edit - It's worse than I thought, actually. Any NPCs that spawn with certain weapons that were updated by the patch will now spawn with 0 condition weapons (NCR, Brotherhood, Powder Gangers etc). Be prepared for a lot of fisticuffs until this is fixed.
klee123 said:
Damage was lowered by 20 on both weapons. I know the SR now has a 1x critical chance multiplier now, not sure what the Gobi's is. AP cost increased by I think 8 for both weapons.
It also seems there was a decent amount of love for explosives. Fat Man and Missile Launcher damage was doubled, for example.
Edit - I think I have the base damage value on the GL wrong, actually. Might just be the FM and ML.
FleckSplat
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Wallach said:
Oh man, that's funny.
klee123 said:
Sniper rifle was (probably still is) incredibly overpowered. I was having a very challenging time in my game until I got a sniper rifle. The game becomes a cake walk at that point. Sneak attack critical across hundreds of yards kill anything in a couple of shots (even one in a lot of cases) on very hard (w/ HC mode on if that makes a difference).
MrTroubleMaker
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:lol can't wait for the next patchWallach said:
