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Fallout New Vegas |OT| Obsidian does what Bethesdon't

Dr. Chaos

Banned
water_wendi said:
i need more Fallout news.

edit:
so where the hell does the Fallout franchise go next? Each game has been in a new locale

FO1 Southwest US near LA
FO2 further east and north including Reno and SF
FOT in the Midwest including Chicago
FO3 finally in the Eastern US.. Washington DC
FONV is set in southern Nevada

So where does Fallout 4 take place? Florida?
Didn't the data stored on ED-E mention something about
The Enclave being in Chicago?

Could be nothing. Though it's nice to know they're still around out there, lurking.
 

kamspy

Member
I think I screwed myself in Dead Money by only keeping one save file. I'm at the part where I flip the switch to open the casino. I've got about 7% health, very little ammo, and no healing items. I'm trying to run past the ghost things, but I think I'm gonna have to use a really old save. :( Dead Money is really cool, but it can be a real grind. That might be some of my appeal to it though. Oh well. Hope to finish this off ASAP and start the new one.
 
Dr. Chaos said:
Finally started my insane hobo character.

Rules I'm enforcing on myself: All explosives and one Shotgun only (emergency purposes only). No armor, wasteland settler outfit only.
Ooh! That's a fun idea. I think I'm gonna do a Rutger Hauer run as well!
 

Papercuts

fired zero bullets in the orphanage.
kamspy said:
anyone got any suggestions for my Dead Money problem?

Is the save right before you flip the switch? If so try to backtrack from there to a vending machine, since you actually get the code for the super stimpak in that room.
 

Lakitu

st5fu
water_wendi said:
i need more Fallout news.

edit:
so where the hell does the Fallout franchise go next? Each game has been in a new locale

FO1 Southwest US near LA
FO2 further east and north including Reno and SF
FOT in the Midwest including Chicago
FO3 finally in the Eastern US.. Washington DC
FONV is set in southern Nevada

So where does Fallout 4 take place? Florida?

I think it'll be the Commonwealth.

Although I would like Detroit or Chicago.
 
I still have this game in the shrink wrap for the 360. Should I bother with it, or is there another patch coming out? I don't want to deal with playing the game, getting an expansion and not having it work like some people have complained about.
 

water_wendi

Water is not wet!
Lakitu said:
I think it'll be the Commonwealth.

Although I would like Detroit or Chicago.
The Commonwealth doesnt really do much for me. Chicago.. been there, done that. Detroit though.. i like it.

bababouille said:
Canada i could see working especially if there is setup in a previous game. Like say we might see some of Canada if we ever get Fallout Online (Seattle) or a Commonwealth game. Personally i think it might be a more interesting setting if it was seen after annexation and before the bombs.

Its funny but there hasnt really been mention of NYC at all in Fallout. i could see how a setting there would make the game be more upwards instead of outwards in terms of scope.
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tokkun said:
There was a pretty lengthy thread on that very topic last year. I think Detroit would be one of the best settings, as 1950's era Detroit was one of the largest and wealthiest US cities and also one that typified the sort of Americana that makes up the Fallout aesthetic.

It would also be nice to have a setting that would allow DLC expeditions to Canada.
i have to agree with you about Detroit. It really fits Fallout.

Dr. Chaos said:
Didn't the data stored on ED-E mention something about
The Enclave being in Chicago?

Could be nothing. Though it's nice to know they're still around out there, lurking.
Its funny you mention this, i was just starting up a playthrough the other day and when i triggered ED-Es dialogue at the Gibson Scrapyard it caught my notice this time. i was like "Chicago, huh?" Makes me kind of wonder at what was planned for them out there.. especially if Tactics is in any way canon.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
I think the obvious choice would be China, but I guess that's a lose-lose proposition for everyone, since I doubt anyone would play a game that's either in Mandarin or in bad Chinese accents.

It'd be nice to see how the "enemy" has coped with the post-apocalypse though.
 
firehawk12 said:
I think the obvious choice would be China, but I guess that's a lose-lose proposition for everyone, since I doubt anyone would play a game that's either in Mandarin or in bad Chinese accents.

It'd be nice to see how the "enemy" has coped with the post-apocalypse though.
There's no way they'd take a risk like that, so much of what Fallout is stems from 50s America, putting it in China would remove all of that. It'd be an all-out franchise suicide.

Let Bioware handle China.

My bet would be somewhere with mountains, in the north, since they'll probably build on the new elder scrolls engine.
 

Effect

Member
water_wendi said:
i need more Fallout news.

edit:
so where the hell does the Fallout franchise go next? Each game has been in a new locale

FO1 Southwest US near LA
FO2 further east and north including Reno and SF
FOT in the Midwest including Chicago
FO3 finally in the Eastern US.. Washington DC
FONV is set in southern Nevada

So where does Fallout 4 take place? Florida?

I hope back east once again. Or at least in and around a major city. The ruins of DC were great to explore. The wide open space in New Vegas tended to be very boring. Actual ruins really play up the apocalyptic nature of the world better.

What I would like to see in a future game is a detail that seems to be overlooked. If people have been living in an area for a while why are they living in filth? If I was living in a bombed out town for years at a time I'd at least hope I and others would have tried to take the time to clean up a little. Remove skeletons from the areas. Create a junk pile to make room for some rebuilding. If not outside but inside of the homes. No reason should the homes if occupied look like the bombs felt yesterday if people have been there for a few years.
 
I don't think Fallout is Fallout without the western and desert setting. Fallout 3 was great fun and all, but the different setting didn't feel Fallout-y to me.

Why not San Diego, Tijuana or Texas?
 

aerts1js

Member
I'm thinking about getting into the Fallout series soon with Fallout 3 for ps3. My only concern are the bugs that I remember hearing about when the game was first launched. Were those addressed?

I can tolerate a few but I don't want to waste my money on a product that freezes every thirty minutes or so.
 

duckroll

Member
aerts1js said:
I'm thinking about getting into the Fallout series soon with Fallout 3 for ps3. My only concern are the bugs that I remember hearing about when the game was first launched. Were those addressed?

I can tolerate a few but I don't want to waste my money on a product that freezes every thirty minutes or so.

Fallout 3 sucks, play New Vegas instead.
 

duckroll

Member
codswallop said:
If he's concerned about bugs, I think that might just be the wrong advice (I prefer New Vegas, too).

Why would it be the wrong advice? Shitty game with some bugs, or great game with some bugs. Simple choice. If he wants a completely bug-free game with perfect performance and no loading, he shouldn't play Fallout games at all.
 
duckroll said:
Why would it be the wrong advice? Shitty game with some bugs, or great game with some bugs..
I found New Vegas significantly buggier than Fallout 3. In fact, I played Fallout 3 for over 40 hours before I ran into a bug, and that only occurred after installing all the DLC. That said, I bought New Vegas a lot closer to release.

If you're into exploration, I think Fallout 3 is the better game. New Vegas is better for those preferring story-based questing. Overall I'd choose New Vegas, but I enjoyed my time in DC as well.
 

markot

Banned
So... will obsidian ever get a shot at another fallout >.<?

And ive noticed as many bugs in this as there were in 3, maybe even less. Might just be me though.

I hate the subways in 3, exploration wise.
 

duckroll

Member
codswallop said:
I found New Vegas significantly buggier than Fallout 3. In fact, I played Fallout 3 for over 40 hours before I ran into a bug, and that only occurred after installing all the DLC. That said, I bought New Vegas a lot closer to release.

If you're into exploration, I think Fallout 3 is the better game. New Vegas is better for those preferring story-based questing. Overall I'd choose New Vegas, but I enjoyed my time in DC as well.

Steam tells me that I've playeed 92 hours of New Vegas. I wouldn't really consider it to be a very buggy game at all.
 

Lafiel

と呼ぶがよい
duckroll said:
Steam tells me that I've playeed 92 hours of New Vegas. I wouldn't really consider it to be a very buggy game at all.
Considering the original poster was asking about the PS3 version, i think this might be slightly misleading as i hear the PC version of vegas is hell of a lot more stable than either of the console versions.

I did hear fallout 3 on playstation 3 was significantly more buggy and has more problems generally than the 360 / PC version, not so sure about vegas ps3 in comparison to the others though.
 

duckroll

Member
Lafiel said:
Considering the original poster was asking about the PS3 version, i think this might be slightly misleading as i hear the PC version of vegas is hell of a lot more stable than either of the console versions.

I did hear fallout 3 on playstation 3 was significantly more buggy and has more problems generally than the 360 / PC version, not so sure about vegas ps3 in comparison to the others though.

Well, I don't mean to be misleading, I have no experience on how awful the games might be on the PS3.
 

Wallach

Member
aerts1js said:
I'm thinking about getting into the Fallout series soon with Fallout 3 for ps3. My only concern are the bugs that I remember hearing about when the game was first launched. Were those addressed?

I can tolerate a few but I don't want to waste my money on a product that freezes every thirty minutes or so.

To be honest, from what I understand the PS3 version of FO3 GotY edition had a lot of problems. I think it is a great game but there were definitely a lot of folks that experienced issues with the PS3 version, though I guess that could be said of all versions. Unfortunately that goes for NV and the rest of the series as well - quite frankly there are no Fallout games that don't have their fair share of bugs. I don't think you're going to encounter lock ups every thirty minutes, but I guarantee you the jank will find you at some point or another.

That said, there isn't any point waiting for a Fallout that doesn't carry that burden, because it isn't going to happen. Personally it's never been anywhere near enough to deter me from playing any of them (even as someone who did video game QA for the better part of a decade). Just a question of whether you think you'd enjoy what's there enough to deal with it.
 

Rei_Toei

Fclvat sbe Pnanqn, ru?
water_wendi said:
The Commonwealth doesnt really do much for me. Chicago.. been there, done that. Detroit though.. i like it.


Canada i could see working especially if there is setup in a previous game. Like say we might see some of Canada if we ever get Fallout Online (Seattle) or a Commonwealth game. Personally i think it might be a more interesting setting if it was seen after annexation and before the bombs.

Its funny but there hasnt really been mention of NYC at all in Fallout. i could see how a setting there would make the game be more upwards instead of outwards in terms of scope.
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i have to agree with you about Detroit. It really fits Fallout.


Its funny you mention this, i was just starting up a playthrough the other day and when i triggered ED-Es dialogue at the Gibson Scrapyard it caught my notice this time. i was like "Chicago, huh?" Makes me kind of wonder at what was planned for them out there.. especially if Tactics is in any way canon.

FUCK YES. This. Please. I've been playing some Assassin's Creed II lately (backlog ahoy) and I keep wishing for something like it in the post-apocalyptic setting. A really big, 'friendly' living city is something I'd really like to see in a next Fallout. Something not just shot to pieces with people living in the ruins, but something were there's a a true economy going on, people producing and building new stuff, etc.

I love the vastness of F3 and NV, especially with F3 it was really something completely new and exciting for me. But I'd also love to have a relatively compact 'hostile' city, 'deep' (sewers, underground shelters, bunkers) and 'high' (skyscrapers and such) city. Rage's Dead City trailer really did it for me in that regard.

A matter of time, I hope. Also, with the success story Fallout is being for Bethesda I can't imagine them being the only ones in this subgenre. I like the Fallout lore but I'm definitely game for something more grounded in reality.
 
aerts1js said:
Thanks for the replies, I'll buy Fallout 3 in the near future than check out the (superior?) New Vegas after that.
I wouldn't even waste my time with FO3. New Vegas is such a better game and can be found for cheap now.

Duckroll sums it up nicely, do you want a shitty game with bugs, or do you want the best RPG of all time (new vegas), also with bugs?
 
water_wendi said:
FOT in the Midwest including Chicago

Since FOT games aren't considered canon, we could see a return to the Midwest. The only thing is that, geographically, the Midwest is not an interesting place. And it lacks the landmarks that made the Capitol Wasteland an interesting place.

If I were Bethesda, I'd want to pull out the stops and set in Boston or the New York area.
 

Aklamarth

Member
Bought NV for PS3. Patched it to the latest version. After about 4-5h hours it crashes when it needs to show loading screens (in that Hidden Vally mostly). Screw you Bethesda ....not buying anything from you.
 

Effect

Member
aerts1js said:
Thanks for the replies, I'll buy Fallout 3 in the near future than check out the (superior?) New Vegas after that.

It really depends on what you like and dislike. I see the two games this way. FO3 is more of a cinematic story. F:NV is more of a collection of events with you determining the winner in the end. Your actions (good, evil, neutral) have a greater impact in New Vegas due to the faction system. You can choose how you respond in FO3 but the main story is still going to progress though with different dialogue options. You can completely shut yourself off from quest in New Vegas depending on your actions. More choice is good but I do feel it comes with a price as New Vegas feels all over the place at times. There isn't a strong push and the pacing is bad. If FO3 is cinematic/movie like then New Vegas is episodic in nature. One style isn't better then the other but it comes down to what you just happen to like more. At least I think this is an okay way of looking at it.

New Vegas might have better changes under the hood in regards to how stats work and gun modifications though. I don't think they really matter all that much when it comes to picking between the two games as they aren't what you'll be thinking about majority of the time.
 

hemtae

Member
bonesmccoy said:
Since FOT games aren't considered canon, we could see a return to the Midwest. The only thing is that, geographically, the Midwest is not an interesting place. And it lacks the landmarks that made the Capitol Wasteland an interesting place.

If I were Bethesda, I'd want to pull out the stops and set in Boston or the New York area.

I'm pretty sure the Institute that the robot man was from in fallout 3 refers to MIT, so there's a good chance the next game will be set in the Boston area which means the first place I'm going will be Fenway
 

Kadey

Mrs. Harvey
Aklamarth said:
Bought NV for PS3. Patched it to the latest version. After about 4-5h hours it crashes when it needs to show loading screens (in that Hidden Vally mostly). Screw you Bethesda ....not buying anything from you.

Only once.

A playthrough of the game should net you at least 100 or so crashes. As I've said a few pages back, a major one seems to be the raid between the NCR and the Caesar wannabe dudes. I've gotten no less than 50 crashes at that part.

Anyway. Is PSN store up yet? It's been a months since I could play the game. It sucks that I can't play the game without the PSN store being up.
 

duckroll

Member
http://twitter.com/#!/ChrisAvellone/status/72861352997298176

Chris Avellone said:
Today, I wrote the last line to be spoken by a Fallout New Vegas character, and can now rest and await armageddon.

Sounds like Lonesome Road is almost done?
 
Ok, question for the FO vets here. I loved FO3 and want to try out New Vegas but I've heard it's buggy as hell. Is this something Obsidian has resolved with recent updates and does it really hinder the experience? Thanks.
 
I'd be curious to know the percentages of people who sided with each camp. I can't decide, but I have to say that
the wild card path sounds the most appealing, if only because so few games offer that as an option
 
How annoying that I have to empty most of my inventory to play the new DLC. What the fuck, it will take me forever with no proper EMPTY ALL button. Anyone know a way I can do this quickly?
 

water_wendi

Water is not wet!
bonesmccoy said:
Since FOT games aren't considered canon, we could see a return to the Midwest. The only thing is that, geographically, the Midwest is not an interesting place. And it lacks the landmarks that made the Capitol Wasteland an interesting place.
There is only the one Tactics game and the events were referenced in Fallout 3 so that makes it canon. FFS if the East Coast Super Mutants are canon, Vault 0 sure as fuck better be.
 

duckroll

Member
INDIGO_CYCLOPS said:
How annoying that I have to empty most of my inventory to play the new DLC. What the fuck, it will take me forever with no proper EMPTY ALL button. Anyone know a way I can do this quickly?

Why do you have to empty everything when most of the misc stuff have no weight at all? You probably just need to dump all your weapons, medium/heavy armor, ammo, and some of the heavier food items.
 
INDIGO_CYCLOPS said:
How annoying that I have to empty most of my inventory to play the new DLC. What the fuck, it will take me forever with no proper EMPTY ALL button. Anyone know a way I can do this quickly?

You can carry 75 or 100 weight with you to Zion.

How much do you carry? Just put away all but a few of your guns and the ammo associated with them and that should save you a lot of space. Then if you're in hardcore mode, I'd say you don't need to bring much in the way of food or water, plenty of fresh river water to drink geckos to eat in Zion.
 

tokkun

Member
evilromero said:
Ok, question for the FO vets here. I loved FO3 and want to try out New Vegas but I've heard it's buggy as hell. Is this something Obsidian has resolved with recent updates and does it really hinder the experience? Thanks.

It's about the same as Fallout 3.


INDIGO_CYCLOPS said:
How annoying that I have to empty most of my inventory to play the new DLC. What the fuck, it will take me forever with no proper EMPTY ALL button. Anyone know a way I can do this quickly?

It's in your interest to travel light. A lot of the enemies there drop high-value weapons. I came out with about 50,000 caps worth of weapons.
 

neoism

Member
Are the DLC's friendly with Mods on PC... I have over 20 installed. I probably won't get Dead Money, because it take your shit away... I can't stand that. Also what is the weight limit for the new DLC.
 

markot

Banned
monkeyfunker >_>

This game is steamworks.... and I formatted awhile backs.... and all my saves are gone!

THIS IS MEANT TO BE WHAT FOR STEAMCLOUD IS!!!!!

Is there anyway to check your steamcloud >_<?

I am sure I always saved to the could. Positive!
 

THRILLH0

Banned
What the fuck, I just started this game and when I go to see Sunny Springs - ie the very first damn thing you do in the game - I start getting blasted by 2 settlers before I can even get the rifle from Sunny.

I have heard about how buggy the game is but is this common? Do I have to restart?
 
AShep said:
What the fuck, I just started this game and when I go to see Sunny Springs - ie the very first damn thing you do in the game - I start getting blasted by 2 settlers before I can even get the rifle from Sunny.

I have heard about how buggy the game is but is this common? Do I have to restart?
I've had Powder Gangers spawn right in front of me before near Goodsprings Source. Just have to roll with the punches.

On another note, I'm wanting to start over and roll a character that specializes in Energy Weapons. But since this will still be my first playthrough, is that a bad idea instead of going Guns? Also, how important is it to concentrate on combat skills (Guns/EW) as opposed to things like Speech/Lockpick/Science in early game? I definitely have trouble with point distribution. I've read that high Perception and Luck are almost crucial to a good EW build. Is that true?
 

duckroll

Member
markot said:
monkeyfunker >_>

This game is steamworks.... and I formatted awhile backs.... and all my saves are gone!

THIS IS MEANT TO BE WHAT FOR STEAMCLOUD IS!!!!!

Is there anyway to check your steamcloud >_<?

I am sure I always saved to the could. Positive!

I'm really sorry to tell you, but cloud saving for New Vegas was disabled by Valve after release bugs caused the game to overwrite the autosave with old saves. :(
 
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