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Fallout New Vegas |OT| Obsidian does what Bethesdon't

Refreshment.01

Refreshment.01

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As you guys know its been selling on steam for 15. So how are the bugs and patches situation with the game. Any improvement since release?

Also any working iron sights mods around.

My apologies if its been asked already but the offer is just for today so in a bit of a hurry.
 
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duckroll

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Refreshment.01 said:
As you guys know its been selling on steam for 15. So how are the bugs and patches situation with the game. Any improvement since release?

Also any working iron sights mods around.

My apologies if its been asked already but the offer is just for today so in a bit of a hurry.
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There is a major stability patch coming out anytime between now and the 19th of July. Tons of bug fixes and memory performance issues are supposed to be fixed in the patch. The last big patch was in April, and it improved the balance of almost all the weapons substantially.
 
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Laurentius

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Thinking of getting it either at Best Buy (if they have a copy still on sale) or off of the Steam sale.

Any particular reason to play Fallout 3 before NV?
 
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Oreoleo

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SenseiJinx said:
Thinking of getting it either at Best Buy (if they have a copy still on sale) or off of the Steam sale.

Any particular reason to play Fallout 3 before NV?
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My understanding is the two have nothing in common as far as story is concerned.
 
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Ledsen

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water_wendi said:
Afaik you need to have a GOTY award before calling your compilation release a GOTY Edition.

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And no the press shit all over New Vegas. The game is better in every way and it reviewed much lower.

Fallout 3 94%
Fallout New Vegas 84%
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It deserved being shat on for the bugs.
 
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Lothars

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duckroll said:
Lvl50 Gods, here we come! I'm probably not going to bother with the lvl restriction trait for my first character when I get OWB. The reason is basically that while I do like a challenge, that character is already horribly broken, AND if I cap him now, it means I will miss out of being able to ever gain any of the new perks added in OWB and LR on that character. So I'll probably allow him to become a god. I'm considering taking the lvl30 capping trait on my second character though, since she's not quite at lvl30 yet.
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That's how I feel as well, my second character will be capped at level 30 or something like that but my first character will be all powerful level 50.
 
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Moundir&Tony>you

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duckroll said:
Anyone who is interested but hasn't gotten them yet has no excuse today! Catch up before Old World Blues!
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Done ! I'm glad I've waited until now . Only problem is , I won't be able to play those dlcs until next month .
 
Refreshment.01

Refreshment.01

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duckroll said:
There is a major stability patch coming out anytime between now and the 19th of July. Tons of bug fixes and memory performance issues are supposed to be fixed in the patch. The last big patch was in April, and it improved the balance of almost all the weapons substantially.
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Apreciate the answer man, thanks alot.

Hearing this think i'll hold off for now, not much time to play and a decent backlog. I would've jumped if it was 10 withouth the extra dlc. Plus, the probable release of an ultimate pack, like always, those 15 better go to the SkyRim fund.
 
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Hasphat'sAnts

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After I finished Ring-a-Ding-Ding, I've been doing sidequests non-stop.

Feels almost like an Elder Scrolls game with all the faction quests there for you to do.
 
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Guerrillas in the Mist

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Just finished Dead Money. The atmosphere was genuinely unsettling, it was a nice change of pace from the main game, and the writing was just phenomenal. If anything happens to Obsidian, it'll be a very sad day for WRPGs. Bethesda and (modern) Bioware just can't compete when it comes to dialogue and plotting.

I did have one fairly big bone to pick with it though,
for most of my game I've travelled around with Veronica, and it would of been a no-brainer to have her involved in it as well, as she would have had a personal stake. Not just with Father Elijah, her mentor, but the game more or less implies that Christine was the girl she was in a relationship with. It was pretty odd that she didn't come up at all during dialogue with Elijah, and Veronica's only part in it is the tape you can give to her from the bunker at the end of the DLC.

A minor quibble, but it a quibble nevertheless.
 
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RDreamer

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Bought this for 10 bucks at Best Buy despite not being the biggest fan of Fallout 3. So far it's much better, though. My problem with Fallout 3 was that the writing sucked, and the characters kind of sucked. Atmosphere and environment were cool, though. So far Obsidian seems to be much, much better at writing, and I'm only in the first town still.

Also, the intro was pretty fantastic, and the score is really well done and atmospheric.
 
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RustyO

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Should I get FO:NV on XBox360, PS3 or PC?

Bearing in mind I'm probably a bit more couch/console gamer then pc gamer... which of the console versions is the best option?
 
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Wallach

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Dead Man said:
Okay, DLC bought off steam, now I just need to find time to play some more.
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Same here. Now I can finally get that shotgun knockback perk. I wish I could rename weapons so I could name my Riot Gun "nope.avi", haha.
 
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Labadal

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RustyO said:
Should I get FO:NV on XBox360, PS3 or PC?

Bearing in mind I'm probably a bit more couch/console gamer then pc gamer... which of the console versions is the best option?
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Get the PC version anyway. Simply because of mods.
 
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Echoplx

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RustyO said:
Should I get FO:NV on XBox360, PS3 or PC?

Bearing in mind I'm probably a bit more couch/console gamer then pc gamer... which of the console versions is the best option?
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PC has native pad support and mods.
 
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Ledsen

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DISGUSTING

piece of crap company, Bethesda or Obsidian, I don't care. They've broken the game AGAIN. I previously had the problem were I had 40-60 fps outside, then after a patch I suddenly had 15-25 fps in the same areas, with the same settings, without changing anything about my computer. So I couldn't play the game I payed ~$35 for at launch for several months. Then suddenly after another patch my fps was back up. Now this Steam sale I bought both DLC packs and booted up the game... ~15-25 fps in Goodsprings. WHAT THE FUCK. The most incompetent company on the god damn planet, I'm so insanely pissed right now. I wish I could say I'll never give these assholes a cent of my money again, but I'll be there like a sucker for Skyrim, letting them tear me a new one and paying them for it. Fuck.
 
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Dead Man

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Refreshment.01 said:
As you guys know its been selling on steam for 15. So how are the bugs and patches situation with the game. Any improvement since release?

Also any working iron sights mods around.

My apologies if its been asked already but the offer is just for today so in a bit of a hurry.
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Iron sights are in the base game now.
 
IrishNinja

IrishNinja

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still debating both DLC's for today's steam sale, but ive yet to even start the game proper, so im thinking ill hold off till the xmas sale, should likely go up by then, no?
 
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duckroll

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IrishNinja said:
still debating both DLC's for today's steam sale, but ive yet to even start the game proper, so im thinking ill hold off till the xmas sale, should likely go up by then, no?
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If you wait until Xmas, the GOTY Edition might already be out, and that might be one sale by then.
 
IrishNinja

IrishNinja

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duckroll said:
If you wait until Xmas, the GOTY Edition might already be out, and that might be one sale by then.
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ah, but i went & grabbed the game itself for $10 off gamersgate last week - when the GOTY ed drops, DLC is still put up on sale usually, no?
 
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Yopis

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Lothars said:
I think that Dead Money is Mothership Zeta bad but Honest Hearts is really good, both are recommended to play just like I would recommend anyone to play FO3 DLC.
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Still need to try zeta though after NV its hard to go back to Bethesdas spin.
 
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toastyToast

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IrishNinja said:
ah, but i went & grabbed the game itself for $10 off gamersgate last week - when the GOTY ed drops, DLC is still put up on sale usually, no?
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Going by Fallout 3, the GOTY edition was just an excuse to starting charging $50 for it again and act like it was a new game. Shallower discounts included.

You have the game already, buy the 2 DLCs now for $6 and maybe the 3rd one will be on sale for the same price at the end of the year.

I don't see you getting a better deal than this especially considering that you already own the base game.
 
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The Albatross

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Ledsen said:
DISGUSTING

piece of crap company, Bethesda or Obsidian, I don't care. They've broken the game AGAIN. I previously had the problem were I had 40-60 fps outside, then after a patch I suddenly had 15-25 fps in the same areas, with the same settings, without changing anything about my computer. So I couldn't play the game I payed ~$35 for at launch for several months. Then suddenly after another patch my fps was back up. Now this Steam sale I bought both DLC packs and booted up the game... ~15-25 fps in Goodsprings. WHAT THE FUCK. The most incompetent company on the god damn planet, I'm so insanely pissed right now. I wish I could say I'll never give these assholes a cent of my money again, but I'll be there like a sucker for Skyrim, letting them tear me a new one and paying them for it. Fuck.
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I used to have that feeling with the MLB 2K series when I only had an X-Box... Knowing that the game was crap, but still needing a fix enough to buy it each year.

*although, NV isn't really crap, but just irritating in certain ways.
 
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The Albatross

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Just wondering, aside from incremental improvements, what do people consider to be much better about New Vegas over Fallout 3? Having played the hell out of both (although I put 100 hours into FO3, and only about 60 into NV), I felt like New Vegas was good but not nearly as good as what Fallout 3 was when it came out. Mostly, I wasn't sold on the story in New Vegas, and I was really frustrated by the lack of attention to the generated world in New Vegas as well... It just felt really poorly planned and less inspired. I felt like, in Fallout 3, the game screamed at you that "THIS IS WASHINGTON DC," and the game had a sort of Americana-historicity to it that was really appealling (although I know long-time Fallout-lore fans may have been frustrated by a holes in the Fallout arc)... but it felt like, to me, at least, that New Vegas lacked that charm, while incidentilly also being a really, really poor reproduction of Las Vegas.

Perhaps I was the only one extremely underwhelmed when I walked onto "the strip" ... Especially after watching those hype videos before the game was released:

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/the-strip-fallout-new/706146

"When you get to Las Vegas BLVD you say, 'I am in Vegas.' And I think that getting the strip right is very important to us, getting that look right is very important to us." (0:33)

"The scope and scale of the Strip is something new. I mean, it's just something.. huge." (0:45) (In reality, of course, 4 casinos with a small handful of areas in each, annoyingly separated by artificial loading zones)

"We want to make it big and huge and giant casinos and giant neon signs and tons of people milling about to make it feel like I'm actually on the strip in real Las Vegas..."

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^ This is pretty much how I felt. "Oh, another empty casino."

You can see one interviewer who tries to save the day with this PR video by saying that they're aiming for the "old vegas" feel (even despite showing the constant flybys of the new Las Vegas BLVD), but it was neither contemporary Vegas or Old Vegas... it was... something that looked and felt nothing like Las Vegas, but they called called it "Vegas" in the game and expected people to buy it.

I was really disappointed by that.
 
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duckroll

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IrishNinja said:
ah, but i went & grabbed the game itself for $10 off gamersgate last week - when the GOTY ed drops, DLC is still put up on sale usually, no?
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I suppose so. Ultimately it depends on when you plan on actually playing the game. The DLC isn't sold as a package either, so there's no harm grabbing both DLC now, and waiting for the next two to go on sale. Ultimately, it'll always be on sale again, being Steam, so...
 
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ezekial45

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Quick question; how am i supposed to start the DLC quests? I downloaded both of them but i haven't gotten any notifications of it in game. Like aren't I supposed to pick up a radio signal or something?

I'm worried that the mods i downloaded (AWOP, New Vegas Bounties, Weapon Mods, Project New Vegas, and the companion mod) are conflicting with it.
 
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tokkun

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water_wendi said:
And no the press shit all over New Vegas. The game is better in every way and it reviewed much lower.

Fallout 3 94%
Fallout New Vegas 84%
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Katamari Forever is a better game than Katamari Damacy and it reviewed lower. Novelty is important. So are the changing expectations of gamers over time.
 
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duckroll

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ezekial45 said:
Quick question; how am i supposed to start the DLC quests? I downloaded both of them but i haven't gotten any notifications of it in game. Like aren't I supposed to pick up a radio signal or something?

I'm worried that the mods i downloaded (AWOP, New Vegas Bounties, Weapon Mods, Project New Vegas, and the companion mod) are conflicting with it.
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Make sure their modules are loaded up, start the game, load any save and just walk around a bit. You should get a pop up notice about the raised level cap, as well as the radio signals and initial quest lines for both add-ons.
 
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ezekial45

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duckroll said:
Make sure their modules are loaded up, start the game, load any save and just walk around a bit. You should get a pop up notice about the raised level cap, as well as the radio signals and initial quest lines for both add-ons.
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Modules are loaded up? What do you mean?

EDIT: Nevermind, i understand what you mean. I didn't activate them in the data files portion.
 
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duckroll

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ezekial45 said:
Modules are loaded up? What do you mean?
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It's like the mods you install in NV, make sure the esm files for DeadMoney and HonestHearts are checked in loader before you start the game.
 
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Dead Man

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The Albatross said:
Just wondering, aside from incremental improvements, what do people consider to be much better about New Vegas over Fallout 3? Having played the hell out of both (although I put 100 hours into FO3, and only about 60 into NV), I felt like New Vegas was good but not nearly as good as what Fallout 3 was when it came out. Mostly, I wasn't sold on the story in New Vegas, and I was really frustrated by the lack of attention to the generated world in New Vegas as well... It just felt really poorly planned and less inspired. I felt like, in Fallout 3, the game screamed at you that "THIS IS WASHINGTON DC," and the game had a sort of Americana-historicity to it that was really appealling (although I know long-time Fallout-lore fans may have been frustrated by a holes in the Fallout arc)... but it felt like, to me, at least, that New Vegas lacked that charm, while incidentilly also being a really, really poor reproduction of Las Vegas.

Perhaps I was the only one extremely underwhelmed when I walked onto "the strip" ... Especially after watching those hype videos before the game was released:

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/the-strip-fallout-new/706146

"When you get to Las Vegas BLVD you say, 'I am in Vegas.' And I think that getting the strip right is very important to us, getting that look right is very important to us." (0:33)

"The scope and scale of the Strip is something new. I mean, it's just something.. huge." (0:45) (In reality, of course, 4 casinos with a small handful of areas in each, annoyingly separated by artificial loading zones)

"We want to make it big and huge and giant casinos and giant neon signs and tons of people milling about to make it feel like I'm actually on the strip in real Las Vegas..."

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^ This is pretty much how I felt. "Oh, another empty casino."

You can see one interviewer who tries to save the day with this PR video by saying that they're aiming for the "old vegas" feel (even despite showing the constant flybys of the new Las Vegas BLVD), but it was neither contemporary Vegas or Old Vegas... it was... something that looked and felt nothing like Las Vegas, but they called called it "Vegas" in the game and expected people to buy it.

I was really disappointed by that.
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Yeah, I was really disappointed by the Strip. I also get the FO3 may not be as true to the lore as NV, but I vastly prefer the world in 3 to NV.
 
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ezekial45

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Ok, now it seems to be working. But unfortunately the game updated, and it's now causing my game to crash with all the mods on. >_<
 
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