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Fallout New Vegas |OT| Obsidian does what Bethesdon't

Callibretto said:
I've been playing this game for 17 hours but I'm starting to get burn out by this game. the game is fun while playing it, but looking back, after 17 hours, I didn't feel like I accomplish much at all in game. maybe because I'm playing side quests? I got to send ghouls on a rocket, that's rather amusing. but the main story haven't gone anywhere and I still haven't find that prick who shot me in the intro (I've just dealt with the khans that are with him).

do you guys think I should ignore side quest for now and focus on the main quest? right now, whenever I want to start playing, I keep reminded about the same depressing looking environment, no music and the story is going nowhere with my pace, than I see my list of Steam games and there are still Borderlands that I'm intrigued to play, I also still have Magicka, Far Cry2, longest journey, other games that I think might grabbed me more than New Vegas currently.

Fallout is more about the journey itself rather than the end result, or the gratification of completion. There really is no main quest per se. But to each his own, I can see why it's just not some peoples' cup of tea.
 
Lionheart1337 said:
Fallout is more about the journey itself rather than the end result, or the gratification of completion. There really is no main quest per se. But to each his own, I can see why it's just not some peoples' cup of tea.

yeah I think I'll do that, exploring areas is actually not bad, I get to read little bit of pieces that tell the history about the setting. but this little bit of pieces is kinda random, and although it give the feeling that there's more of this subplot in the game for you, I don't know where to go to follow this seemingly random piece of story. so far, I think I like Fallout 3 more than New Vegas, although I hate FO3 ending.
 

Orlandu84

Member
I just logged my 100th hour! Any impressions of Old World Blues? My brothers got it for their Xbox 360's Fallout New Vegas, but I haven't gotten it for my PC's Fallout New Vegas (one family, many gamers). Anyways, has anyone beaten Old World Blues yet?
 
My character is a "Confirmed Bachelor" but he has no qualms about doing the Thorn quest in exchange for a bit of sexy time with the lass running the place. I guess that makes him bi?

Anyway, downloaded Honest Hearts. As much as I'm enjoying it, I actually wouldn't rate it quite as high as Dead Money. I really liked the tighter, more focused DLC, which allowed for the excellent writing to shine.
 

Fjordson

Member
So some nasty technical issues that eventually caused me to lose my playthrough halfway through the game caused me to sort of give up (this was like a week after launch). However, was talking to a friend earlier today and he told me that I should jump back in because they've patched out most of the problems. Is it pretty stable? My friend is a massive Fallout fanboy so I need some more impressions lol. Would be playing the 360 version.

Also what reminded me was the OT for the new DLC. Looks really cool.
 
It's amazing. I put about 15-20 hours in, before giving up for a while. Went back into it and have been playing it off and on for a couple of months. I'm almost at 60 hours and I'm still finding new places and new things to do. It's really worth it.
 

Fjordson

Member
Guerrillas in the Mist said:
It's amazing. I put about 15-20 hours in, before giving up for a while. Went back into it and have been playing it off and on for a couple of months. I'm almost at 60 hours and I'm still finding new places and new things to do. It's really worth it.
Shiiat, I might have to then. I enjoyed what I played, just got frustrated when my game got fucked up.
 

Orlandu84

Member
Fjordson said:
So some nasty technical issues that eventually caused me to lose my playthrough halfway through the game caused me to sort of give up (this was like a week after launch). However, was talking to a friend earlier today and he told me that I should jump back in because they've patched out most of the problems. Is it pretty stable? My friend is a massive Fallout fanboy so I need some more impressions lol. Would be playing the 360 version.

Also what reminded me was the OT for the new DLC. Looks really cool.
My brothers play the 360 version of Fallout New Vegas a lot. When I say "a lot," I mean that over the last three weeks they probably have logged at least 100 hours between the three of them. So far their only complaint about bugs has been "floating grass in Nipton." The game has been very stable for them. Base on their experience, I would say that the technical problems are almost if not entirely gone.
 
I'm still bummed out of my mind my "perfectionist" playthrough has been ruined because Obsidian didn't fix Raul's quest. I've got everything the way I want it to be, but then Raul's endgame slides fuck it all up. :(
 

Kadey

Mrs. Harvey
Which is supposed to be the real ending? Or what exactly is considered the best ending? It appears I have a bunch of choices to make right now regarding the end game. Why can't I just be friends with everyone like I have up to this point?
 
Kadey said:
Which is supposed to be the real ending? Or what exactly is considered the best ending? It appears I have a bunch of choices to make right now regarding the end game. Why can't I just be friends with everyone like I have up to this point?
The one that you get is the real ending. There is no best ending, only additional slides if you have done certain quests.

Everyone has different goals for the Strip and the Mojave, not everyone is going to like the choices you make.
 

Fjordson

Member
Orlandu84 said:
My brothers play the 360 version of Fallout New Vegas a lot. When I say "a lot," I mean that over the last three weeks they probably have logged at least 100 hours between the three of them. So far their only complaint about bugs has been "floating grass in Nipton." The game has been very stable for them. Base on their experience, I would say that the technical problems are almost if not entirely gone.
Sweet. Thanks for the input.
 

Dresden

Member
Kadey said:
Which is supposed to be the real ending? Or what exactly is considered the best ending? It appears I have a bunch of choices to make right now regarding the end game. Why can't I just be friends with everyone like I have up to this point?
Because Caesar must die
or live if you're fond of a bunch of sexist slaver thugs
.
 
Kadey said:
Which is supposed to be the real ending? Or what exactly is considered the best ending? It appears I have a bunch of choices to make right now regarding the end game. Why can't I just be friends with everyone like I have up to this point?
House's path is obviously the "best" ending. To me, that is. Choose house if you want the Mojave to stay just the way it is.

If this region is ever revisted in a later Fallout installment (and it very well may - the west is an important setting to the franchise), you'd think they'll have to settle on a "canon" ending eventually, seeing as how all the endings are so different, it'd be tough to pussy-foot around it without pulling a TES-style "Warp in the West".

If there absolutely had to be a canon ending, it'd probably be the NCR ending, if only because they're unstoppable. It's not a matter of if they'll conquer the Mojave, but when. That being said, later installments of the game will likely never touch upon it. The canon ending is your personal favorite.
 
Dresden said:
Because Caesar must die
or live if you're fond of a bunch of sexist slaver thugs
.
He can still die if you side with the Legion. You can assassinate him yourself if you decide to intentionally botch his brain surgery. This puts Legate Lanius in charge.
 

Mutagenic

Permanent Junior Member
Quick question: am I able to rejoin Veronica after dismissing her for Honest Hearts? She's way too powerful to abandon for good!
 

TheBear

Member
I'm about 14 hours in and i'm a bit over doing side quests, and want to just focus on the main story. Am I able to come back to the side stuff once i end the main story?
 

ezekial45

Banned
bigjimmystyle said:
I'm about 14 hours in and i'm a bit over doing side quests, and want to just focus on the main story. Am I able to come back to the side stuff once i end the main story?

No. Before you initiate the final quest, it'll warn you that you entering the point of no return. There's no questing afterward so you'll have to finish everything you want to before, or just take advantage of the new save that's created when you start the last quest.
 

TheBear

Member
ezekial45 said:
No. Before you initiate the final quest, it'll warn you that you entering the point of no return. There's no questing afterward so you'll have to finish everything you want to before, or just take advantage of the new save that's created when you start the last quest.

Ok thanks for that. I'm only at Level 15, will that be enough to finish the game?
 
Fjordson said:
So some nasty technical issues that eventually caused me to lose my playthrough halfway through the game caused me to sort of give up (this was like a week after launch). However, was talking to a friend earlier today and he told me that I should jump back in because they've patched out most of the problems. Is it pretty stable? My friend is a massive Fallout fanboy so I need some more impressions lol. Would be playing the 360 version.

Also what reminded me was the OT for the new DLC. Looks really cool.

I started playing this about a month ago on Xbox 360 and for the first 18-20 hours I had zero bugs. Since then, I've had quite a few, some of them nearly ruined the entire game.

The Omertas refused to let me in the casino without killing me…I never did anything to them, it's a known bug.

Randomly, 25 hours in, an NCR MP officer came and told me I was a terrorist and would be shot on site…I failed all my NCR quests and was killed. I was already vilified by the Legion and Famed by the NCR…no idea why this happened. I had to revert to a few hours before and pray it didn't happen again. It didn't.

The other night it just wouldn't even load any save games. At all. I eventually deleted the 360 title update and tried again. It worked. I now have to stay off of Live in order to play.​

Needless to say, I've had some pretty critical bugs that have nearly obliterated my entire experience. It's a shame, really, because I've been LOVING the game. It's a great story and full of interesting quests and characters, it's just a shame it's so damn buggy. All I can say, if you're going to play it, is make a new save every time ANYTHING happens. You'll hit the 100 save limit quick, but just keep overwriting the oldest and keep going. It's worth the trouble.
 
So, anyone else think Old World Blues is one of the best DLCs for Fallout yet? Awesome exploration, lots of combat, great story telling in the world itself, the story is pretty darn funny, and I love all the little details that dig deeper into a lot of other Fallout NV storylines from the main game and the DLC.

But damn, that first lore bomb that's dropped on you when you start is freaking epic! I think I listened to about 20 minutes of dialogue before I started getting out and exploring. And darn it if I say so myself, the exploring has been fantastic!
 

duckroll

Member
ALaz502 said:
So, anyone else think Old World Blues is one of the best DLCs for Fallout yet? Awesome exploration, lots of combat, great story telling in the world itself, the story is pretty darn funny, and I love all the little details that dig deeper into a lot of other Fallout NV storylines from the main game and the DLC.

But damn, that first lore bomb that's dropped on you when you start is freaking epic! I think I listened to about 20 minutes of dialogue before I started getting out and exploring. And darn it if I say so myself, the exploring has been fantastic!

Yes, you can continue to gush over it along with the rest of us here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=437592

:D
 

Sotha Sil

Member
Alright, I want to buy the PS3 version as gift (no other option, sadly); anyone played/playing it? I'd really like to know if it runs decently. I knew it ran like crap after launch, but the patch may have fixed some issues.

Thanks in advance, Gaf.
 
Decided to do some exploring outside of the map. Holy shit, the area's a lot bigger than you'd think. Visited the nuclear test site, and actually climbed inside one of the craters. :lol

There's a bit behind Mojave Outpost where the road leads off into the sunset. Time to spread my legs.
 

Bentendo

Member
Blue Ninja said:
Decided to do some exploring outside of the map. Holy shit, the area's a lot bigger than you'd think. Visited the nuclear test site, and actually climbed inside one of the craters. :lol

There's a bit behind Mojave Outpost where the road leads off into the sunset. Time to spread my legs.

Wait, you can go exploring beyond the map? Are there any secret items or NPCs there?
 

hemtae

Member
Blue Ninja said:
Decided to do some exploring outside of the map. Holy shit, the area's a lot bigger than you'd think. Visited the nuclear test site, and actually climbed inside one of the craters. :lol

There's a bit behind Mojave Outpost where the road leads off into the sunset. Time to spread my legs.

If you're talking about what I think your talking about, then that part is guarded by an unpickable gate. Its a shame, I thought it would be a part of a DLC letting us go to shady sands and other places around the NCR
 

AwesomeSauce

MagsMoonshine
Sotha Sil said:
Alright, I want to buy the PS3 version as gift (no other option, sadly); anyone played/playing it? I'd really like to know if it runs decently. I knew it ran like crap after launch, but the patch may have fixed some issues.

Thanks in advance, Gaf.
It runs well enough as in performance isn't what you will be worrying about, but game freezing glitches and bugs here and there.
 
hemtae said:
If you're talking about what I think your talking about, then that part is guarded by an unpickable gate. Its a shame, I thought it would be a part of a DLC letting us go to shady sands and other places around the NCR
You can exit the map from, among other places, Searchlight Airport. There's a few white tanks near the fence: you can jump onto one of the supports, and then make your way up onto the tank. After that, make a save, and jump over the fence. You are now outside the map.

Walked along the entire length of the Grand Canyon yesterday, until I reached the end of the playable space. There was a steep drop in water after that, but you could survive it if you fell just right. I could teleport myself back on land by just touching the "wall" in the water, it was pretty freaky.

Today, I ventured along the edge of the playable space instead of going way outside: as I mentioned, I climbed inside the atomic craters near the Test Site, I climbed unto the other half of the broken bridge over Crescent Canyon, and I approached the unpickable gate you mentioned from the other side. :lol

Once you're out, there's no other invisible walls and such barring you from doing what you want. Exploration there feels a lot more like Fallout 3 and Oblivion, though it can get dull quickly if you're not a fan of running around a lifeless desert. :lol

Bentendo said:
Wait, you can go exploring beyond the map? Are there any secret items or NPCs there?
Not that I can tell. You can reach the Legate's camp and activate the map marker, but I haven't found out how, yet.
 

Bumhead

Banned
Bought New Vegas during the Steam sale and completed it yesterday.

Love the game although I totally blew my first play through. Finished it too quickly (within 15 hours), barely touched the side quests or explored as fully as I should have and I went into the final stage of the story arc at level 14.

So yeah, I blew it.

Love the game though. The first thing I did upon completion was re-boot the game straight back up and start a new save, this time with a more considered character in terms of stats and I'm going to take my time. There were alot of things I did that I kind of regretted during my first run so I'm looking forward to seeing different parts of the Mojave.
 

x-Lundz-x

Member
I'm thinking about buying all the DLC this weekend and starting a fresh play through on Hardcore (Hard difficulty).

I'm having a hard time deciding the best starting special stats and skills to begin this playthrough.

I know melee is going to be good for starting out considering ammo has weight now, but I do not want to be stuck using a melee focused character the entire game.

Anyone here have some tips for a good build to start with or have any input? Thanks.
 

Leonsito

Member
Hi guys, I just finished the game for the first time following the Mr. House path, If I want to go back and do the other three without starting the game all over again, what's the point I should reload an old save ?

I have one just after talking to Yes Man for the first time, another one before going to the underground bunker in the Legion camp to restart the Servibots, and a couple more in key moments of the game...
 

Bentendo

Member
Leonsito said:
Hi guys, I just finished the game for the first time following the Mr. House path, If I want to go back and do the other three without starting the game all over again, what's the point I should reload an old save ?

I have one just after talking to Yes Man for the first time, another one before going to the underground bunker in the Legion camp to restart the Servibots, and a couple more in key moments of the game...

I'm not certain, but probably around the time you
confront/kill Benny, which I think is the Ring-A-Ding-Ding quest.
 
I just made my way from outside of Searchlight Airport all the way to the other side of the Colorado. Since the short way around always resulted in my untimely demise, I took the long route around, and swung around the entire Mojave wasteland. I climbed the mountains of Jacobstown, climbed on top of the UFO near the Northern Passage, tried to get onto the highway near Nellis (and failed), followed a line of broken electricity towers until the map bent back outwards, and then followed the edge until I passed beyond the Devil's Throat. From there, it was only a short walk until I could leisurely immerse myself in the irradiated waters of the Colorado River and then swim across.

Let's see if I can't reach the Legate's camp now.

EDIT: Yep. I climbed up on the rocks beside it, and while the camp is surrounded by an invisible wall, there's a patch that "teleports" you straight inside.
 
Sort of OT but why the fuck did it take me so long to discover the high-res mods for Fallout 1 and 2. Thank goodness for these, the vanilla-game is so ridiculous on a big screen.
 

Leonsito

Member
Bentendo said:
I'm not certain, but probably around the time you
confront/kill Benny, which I think is the Ring-A-Ding-Ding quest.

Well, that's soon in the game, but I expected it would be that moment.
 
Leonsito said:
Hi guys, I just finished the game for the first time following the Mr. House path, If I want to go back and do the other three without starting the game all over again, what's the point I should reload an old save ?

I have one just after talking to Yes Man for the first time, another one before going to the underground bunker in the Legion camp to restart the Servibots, and a couple more in key moments of the game...
I think the starting points of the quests "For the Republic" (
which you get after talking to House for the first time
), "The House Always Wins" (
which you get when talking to House for the first time
), "Render Unto Caesar" (
which you get after you've confronted Benny
) and "Wild Card" (
which you get when speaking to Yes Man for the first time
) are more than sufficient.

You can also pretty much do the entire NCR questline right until the battle for Hoover Dam, save, and then use that save to do both the NCR and the Yes Man endings.
 
x-Lundz-x said:
I'm thinking about buying all the DLC this weekend and starting a fresh play through on Hardcore (Hard difficulty).

I'm having a hard time deciding the best starting special stats and skills to begin this playthrough.

I know melee is going to be good for starting out considering ammo has weight now, but I do not want to be stuck using a melee focused character the entire game.

Anyone here have some tips for a good build to start with or have any input? Thanks.

I wouldn't bother with hardcore, it tries to make the game more realistic and difficult but it only makes it more annoying :

-Weighted ammo is a bitch and saps some of the fun out of being able to use multiple weapons
-Having to keep up with SLP, FOD, and H20 can be annoying
-Companions can die (and they will with the AI in this game)

There's a few others. I personally don't recommend it unless you want the achievement.
 

lsslave

Jew Gamer
Lionheart1337 said:
I wouldn't bother with hardcore, it tries to make the game more realistic and difficult but it only makes it more annoying :

-Weighted ammo is a bitch and saps some of the fun out of being able to use multiple weapons
-Having to keep up with SLP, FOD, and H20 can be annoying
-Companions can die (and they will with the AI in this game)

There's a few others. I personally don't recommend it unless you want the achievement.

I've heard from others that it is the only way to play the game. It depends on if you are a run-and-gun or a pre-plan methodical person. Being an RPG I love Hardcore mode and think the game isn't worth salt without it.

The game genuinely becomes about survival of the wasteland Hard-Hardcore mode (Very Hard - Hardcore mode is just a headache)
 

Leonsito

Member
Blue Ninja said:
I think the starting points of the quests "For the Republic" (
which you get after talking to House for the first time
), "The House Always Wins" (
which you get when talking to House for the first time
), "Render Unto Caesar" (
which you get after you've confronted Benny
) and "Wild Card" (
which you get when speaking to Yes Man for the first time
) are more than sufficient.

You can also pretty much do the entire NCR questline right until the battle for Hoover Dam, save, and then use that save to do both the NCR and the Yes Man endings.

Thanks for the info, I think I will go for the Legion and then for the other two ;)
 

water_wendi

Water is not wet!
Lionheart1337 said:
I wouldn't bother with hardcore, it tries to make the game more realistic and difficult but it only makes it more annoying :

-Weighted ammo is a bitch and saps some of the fun out of being able to use multiple weapons
-Having to keep up with SLP, FOD, and H20 can be annoying
-Companions can die (and they will with the AI in this game)

There's a few others. I personally don't recommend it unless you want the achievement.
Hardcore mode is the only way to play New Vegas (it was also the only way to play Fallout 3).

- Weighted ammo makes it so there is some kind of resource management with the game. In FO3 or normal NV you can just march around with 5,000 rockets or 300,000 rounds of whatever powers those alien rifles and just destroy everything without any danger to you. A mechanic that effectively grants godmode is what really saps the fun from the game.

- Eating, drinking, and sleeping basically give value to about half of the thousands of junk items that appear in these games. The meters arent punishing but they have enough presence to keep things interesting.

- Immortal companions sounds like total shit, imo.

Dont do it for any achievement. Do it because it makes the game more interesting.


Edit:
And it shouldnt even be called Hardcore mode. It should be the normal default and whats "Normal" should be called "Training Wheel" mode or "Pull-ups" mode.
 

x-Lundz-x

Member
water_wendi said:
Hardcore mode is the only way to play New Vegas (it was also the only way to play Fallout 3).

- Weighted ammo makes it so there is some kind of resource management with the game. In FO3 or normal NV you can just march around with 5,000 rockets or 300,000 rounds of whatever powers those alien rifles and just destroy everything without any danger to you. A mechanic that effectively grants godmode is what really saps the fun from the game.

- Eating, drinking, and sleeping basically give value to about half of the thousands of junk items that appear in these games. The meters arent punishing but they have enough presence to keep things interesting.

- Immortal companions sounds like total shit, imo.

Dont do it for any achievement. Do it because it makes the game more interesting.


Edit:
And it shouldnt even be called Hardcore mode. It should be the normal default and whats "Normal" should be called "Training Wheel" mode or "Pull-ups" mode.

Great, I see someone who must have done it then. This is kinda what I am looking for, just more of a challenge and I also want the achievement. You have any advice on a good build for hardcore mode?
 
Lionheart1337 said:
I wouldn't bother with hardcore, it tries to make the game more realistic and difficult but it only makes it more annoying :

-Weighted ammo is a bitch and saps some of the fun out of being able to use multiple weapons
-Having to keep up with SLP, FOD, and H20 can be annoying
-Companions can die (and they will with the AI in this game)

There's a few others. I personally don't recommend it unless you want the achievement.

I would have liked HC moade better if the companions couldn't die. That was the biggest pain in the ass. As soon as a cazadore appears your companions are fucked.
 

water_wendi

Water is not wet!
x-Lundz-x said:
Great, I see someone who must have done it then. This is kinda what I am looking for, just more of a challenge and I also want the achievement. You have any advice on a good build for hardcore mode?
There are no Hardcore Mode builds, imo. The only thing thats helpful is to have Survival at 25 to cook Gecko Steak. Even then thats more for the healing from the food and not the food part of the food. When you play it you will see what i mean. Hardcore Mode isnt hard or tough or anything like that.


Count of Monte Sawed-Off said:
I would have liked HC moade better if the companions couldn't die. That was the biggest pain in the ass. As soon as a cazadore appears your companions are fucked.
The latest patch addresses this. Instead of lasting forever it hurts more in less time. The problem with the old poison on followers is that Cazadore poison always seemed to last FOREVER. This way its over quickly, pop a couple stims on them and its fine. To be honest, i havent had issues with Cazadores since they changed them a couple patches ago. They are easy like Sunday morning now that they dont get right up in your grill before you even see them.
 
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