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Fallout New Vegas |OT| Obsidian does what Bethesdon't

hemtae

Member
confused said:
Please help me not suck at this game. Started a few days ago, got to level 8 everything is fine so far. Only I keep getting my ass handed to me everytime I enter human combat. What Am I doing wrong?

are you using a melee or ranged build?

Any points into sneak?
 

confused

Banned
hemtae said:
are you using a melee or ranged build?

No, I have most of my points in Computerskills (forgot the name) and guns and survival. Using mostly handguns and a sawn-off shotgun I looted of a PG-er
 
confused said:
No, I have most of my points in Computerskills (forgot the name) and guns and survival. Using mostly handguns and a sawn-off shotgun I looted of a PG-er

The early shotguns aren't very good. You'll want to find the Cowboy repeater, and use the 9mm pistol/ .38 revolver for now, the varmit rifle isn't bad either. Use VATS for headshots, and crouch in order to get the sneak bonus.
 

zkylon

zkylewd
confused said:
No, I have most of my points in Computerskills (forgot the name) and guns and survival. Using mostly handguns and a sawn-off shotgun I looted of a PG-er
You should always try to leverage the fights your way by making the first shots count, either by doing sneak kills or using large damage dealing attacks.

For sneak kills, try attaching a silencer to a 10mm or to a varmint rifle and pick them off one by one when they stray off the main group. If you enter [caution] mode, just hide and wait for a while, until you're hidden again. Stealth boys help a lot.

The Powder Gangers at the beginning of the game are a great source of dynamite, which you can use to break apart large groups and break their limbs and make them drop their weapons. If you throw them from afar, they might not spot you.
 

confused

Banned
weekend_warrior said:
The early shotguns aren't very good. You'll want to find the Cowboy repeater, and use the 9mm pistol/ .38 revolver for now, the varmit rifle isn't bad either. Use VATS for headshots, and crouch in order to get the sneak bonus.

I've been using 9 mm's pretty much exclusively up to now. They only do 8 damage while the shotty does 10. Where can I find the cowboy repeater.
 

confused

Banned
zkylon said:
You should always try to leverage the fights your way by making the first shots count, either by doing sneak kills or using large damage dealing attacks.

For sneak kills, try attaching a silencer to a 10mm or to a varmint rifle and pick them off one by one when they stray off the main group. If you enter [caution] mode, just hide and wait for a while, until you're hidden again. Stealth boys help a lot.

The Powder Gangers at the beginning of the game are a great source of dynamite, which you can use to break apart large groups and break their limbs and make them drop their weapons. If you throw them from afar, they might not spot you.

Yeah, Dynamite was a great help. I wouldn't have managed to rescue the Primm Sherrif without.

Fuck, thought I edited. Sorry for the DP guys.
 

Wallach

Member
confused said:
I've been using 9 mm's pretty much exclusively up to now. They only do 8 damage while the shotty does 10. Where can I find the cowboy repeater.

If you like shotguns - like every decent human being on the planet - you can get a lever-action shotgun pretty early in Boulder City at the bar if you're willing to do a bit of breaking and entering.
 

hemtae

Member
confused said:
I've been using 9 mm's pretty much exclusively up to now. They only do 8 damage while the shotty does 10. Where can I find the cowboy repeater.

there are two in really low repair in the sheriff's house in primm
 
*runs happily cutting people with Proton Axe

*gets ambushed by Legion Assassins

*searches the bodies

"Oh, Thermic Lance, what's that?"

*tries it on a nearby Gecko


O______________O
 

Jhriad

Member
I'm not yet 8 hours into the game now and I think I'm at an impasse. I've now crashed to desktop over three dozen times and I'm just not sure how much longer my patience will hold out. Do I set it down and walk away wishing that I could get my money back or do I power through what will almost certainly be an aggravating experience to get a taste of the game that, were it not for the stability issues, I'd absolutely love.
 
I'm not yet 8 hours into the game now and I think I'm at an impasse. I've now crashed to desktop over three dozen times and I'm just not sure how much longer my patience will hold out. Do I set it down and walk away wishing that I could get my money back or do I power through what will almost certainly be an aggravating experience to get a taste of the game that, were it not for the stability issues, I'd absolutely love.
Stop playing so you won't post here anymore with non-questions.
 
Castor Krieg said:
*runs happily cutting people with Proton Axe

*gets ambushed by Legion Assassins

*searches the bodies

"Oh, Thermic Lance, what's that?"

*tries it on a nearby Gecko


O______________O

I just ran into a bunch of Assassins while clearing out the Deathclaw zone. Talk about bad timing.
 

djm

Member
Jhriad said:
I'm not yet 8 hours into the game now and I think I'm at an impasse. I've now crashed to desktop over three dozen times and I'm just not sure how much longer my patience will hold out. Do I set it down and walk away wishing that I could get my money back or do I power through what will almost certainly be an aggravating experience to get a taste of the game that, were it not for the stability issues, I'd absolutely love.
Sounds like maybe a hardware problem or something? I think I CTD'd maybe once on my one playthrough. Is it fully patched, etc?
 
Jhriad said:
I'm not yet 8 hours into the game now and I think I'm at an impasse. I've now crashed to desktop over three dozen times and I'm just not sure how much longer my patience will hold out. Do I set it down and walk away wishing that I could get my money back or do I power through what will almost certainly be an aggravating experience to get a taste of the game that, were it not for the stability issues, I'd absolutely love.
Me a few pages back:

For people having launcher crashes, try the fixes in this thread: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1522413

For the in-game crashes, if you have a multicore CPU and haven't turned on threaded AI give that a try: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1699714
 

Jhriad

Member
afternoon delight said:
Stop playing so you won't post here anymore with non-questions.

Or you could take it as "Does the experience maintain quality throughout well enough that I should continue forward given that I've already shown I can tolerate frequent CTDs?" and give me a response based on that rather than some stupid snark.
 

Wanace

Member
XeroSauce said:
I would suggest starting up the main quest with Mr. House/NCR/Wild Card/Legion and then start exploring while you walk around trying to meet each faction. There's a lot of locations along the trip and you're bound to run into a few good quests. Have you picked up a companion yet?

I have Boone as my companion. I just wandered off and found Vault 19 so I'm working on that now, getting my ass kicked a few times by Cazadors and packs of giant radscorpions along the way.

I'm almost level 13 now so making progress. Hardcore mode really is hardcore I'm finding.
 
Jhriad said:
Or you could take it as "Does the experience maintain quality throughout well enough that I should continue forward given that I've already shown I can tolerate frequent CTDs?" and give me a response based on that rather than some stupid snark.

Or you could alternately opt for option number three, which is trying the fixes I just posted for you.
 

XeroSauce

Member
Jhriad said:
Or you could take it as "Does the experience maintain quality throughout well enough that I should continue forward given that I've already shown I can tolerate frequent CTDs?" and give me a response based on that rather than some stupid snark.

Stick with it.

There's only more things to find. I don't know how anyone gives up at 8 hours unless you hate the gameplay.
 
confused said:
I've been using 9 mm's pretty much exclusively up to now. They only do 8 damage while the shotty does 10. Where can I find the cowboy repeater.

A fully repaired 9mm should be doing 16/hit, so make sure you're repairing those regularly, it should be easy since 9mm's are common and your repair skill increases with science. A sawed-off will do about 7 damage per "pellet", but it's spread is so bad that the real-world performance ends up being horrible. The first decent shotgun is the lever-action.

A .38 Cowboy Repeater can be found in Primm
Turn left after entering from the bridge, walk straight past the garage and you come to two shacks, the Deputy and Sheriff homes, the shotgun is under the sheriffs bed.
 

MrOogieBoogie

BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
Can I install the Weapons Modification Mod after I've installed Project Nevada and MTUI? Or is there a specific order I've got to do it in?
 

AwesomeSauce

MagsMoonshine
MrOogieBoogie said:
Can I install the Weapons Modification Mod after I've installed Project Nevada and MTUI? Or is there a specific order I've got to do it in?

Isn't there a specific version for Project Nevada of WMX and WME? I use WMX and It's pretty awesome.
 

MrOogieBoogie

BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
AwesomeSauce said:
Isn't there a specific version for Project Nevada of WMX and WME? I use WMX and It's pretty awesome.

There is, but I'm wondering if there is an install order. I've also got the Weapon Retexture Project - WRP installed, so I don't know if installing the Weapons Modification after all those will cause any issues.
 

hemtae

Member
MrOogieBoogie said:
There is, but I'm wondering if there is an install order. I've also got the Weapon Retexture Project - WRP installed, so I don't know if installing the Weapons Modification after all those will cause any issues.

It doesn't matter. Just install the compatibility patch if there is on after you install both of them
 
Doing a new playthrough and after clearing out Primm I found Deputy Beagle in the casino crouching in mid air with his head sticking through the ceiling.
 
Just passed Canyon Wreckage by accident. Lonesome Road is going to be epic. I wouldn't mind if LR was actually the epilogue of the game, something you can start after the ending. The DLCs are simply too good, and it seems obvious there is more to the Courier's past that we know of.

I'm going to put my predictions for Lonesome Road right here (spoilers to all DLCs)
Both Courier Six and Ulysses came from the Divide, which is either a. untouched by the war b. some weather anomalies because of the experiment make people living there special. At some point prior to the game both the Courier and Ulysses decided to travel to Mojave. That's why there's "You can go home, Courier" in Canyon Wreckage.
 
Castor Krieg said:
Just passed Canyon Wreckage by accident. Lonesome Road is going to be epic. I wouldn't mind if LR was actually the epilogue of the game, something you can start after the ending. The DLCs are simply too good, and it seems obvious there is more to the Courier's past that we know of.

I'm going to put my predictions for Lonesome Road right here (spoilers to all DLCs)
Both Courier Six and Ulysses came from the Divide, which is either a. untouched by the war b. some weather anomalies because of the experiment make people living there special. At some point prior to the game both the Courier and Ulysses decided to travel to Mojave. That's why there's "You can go home, Courier" in Canyon Wreckage.

It definitely seems to be something like that if you looked at the achievements. Also interesting to note how Ulysses specifically told them to
let courier 6 carry the package, as if he knew that the thing with benny would happen and c6 would survive where the other couriers would/could not. also, talking brain wtf.

side note - playing fallout 2. so good. definitely seems to be the new vegas of the older games.
 

Derrick01

Banned
Can someone explain to me why the old mormon fort in freeside was completely under (irradiated) water when I walked in? This never happened on any of my other playthroughs, and it kinda fucks things up with a few quests as no one's here.

Obsidian has the strangest damn bugs ever.

edit: I take that back, everyone's still here....they're about 200 feet in the sky doing swimming motions. When I swam up to the "surface", I was in the sky above all of freeside, not just the fort.
 

hemtae

Member
Derrick01 said:
Can someone explain to me why the old mormon fort in freeside was completely under (irradiated) water when I walked in? This never happened on any of my other playthroughs, and it kinda fucks things up with a few quests as no one's here.

Obsidian has the strangest damn bugs ever.

edit: I take that back, everyone's still here....they're about 200 feet in the sky doing swimming motions. When I swam up to the "surface", I was in the sky above all of freeside, not just the fort.

...it rained? a lot?
 
Derrick01 said:
Can someone explain to me why the old mormon fort in freeside was completely under (irradiated) water when I walked in? This never happened on any of my other playthroughs, and it kinda fucks things up with a few quests as no one's here.

Obsidian has the strangest damn bugs ever.

edit: I take that back, everyone's still here....they're about 200 feet in the sky doing swimming motions. When I swam up to the "surface", I was in the sky above all of freeside, not just the fort.
Film that shit. Sounds like the best glitch ever. :lol

Also, Caesar granted me his mark and summoned me. I went to the now completely irradiated Cottonwood Cove (though the radiation barrels seem to have disappeared), where Cursor Lucullus was waiting for me in a radiation suit. He took me, Arcade and Rex across the Colorado.

When I arrived, one of the door guards confiscated not only my weapons, but my stimpaks and chems as well. Worse yet, he also decided to take the Platinum Chip I took back from Benny's corpse just a few days prior. I managed to sneak in my Mysterious Magnum, my C4 stash and my Detonator. If the Legion wanted to fuck with me, I'd fuck with them.

I entered Caesar's tent. He started ranting to me. "So, you're the Courier who took back Nelson. Who wiped out Cottonwood Cove. Yada yada yada yada yada yada yada."
The bastard presumed he could order me around, and then handed the Platinum Chip back over. I realized, "Why not blow this guy up, right here, right now." I've killed Caesar before, but never in the initial meeting, with almost no weapons or stims on me.

I feigned going outside, and activated my Stealth Boy. I snuck around the tent, planting C4 charges on Lucius and two other Praetorian guards. I stood up in the middle of the tent, waited for my Stealth Boy to run out, and then pressed the "EXPLODE!"-button. Explode they did.

I then whipped out the Mysterious Magnum, switched to SWC rounds, and opened fire on the surviving Praetorian. Once he was dead, it was just me and Caesar... But the old guy died quickly enough.

Needless to say, total badassery was achieved.
 
I just started the second DLC (Utah) and it's amazing how many of the locations I know from real life. I was almost disappointed they didn't put the accent in "Spanish Faark" =)

As far as the first DLC it was nice, but the gameplay mechanic
speakers beeping
was insanely annoying. I handled all the other new mechanics well
unkillable holograms, poison gas
, but they also felt quite annoying to deal with instead of fun. The one mechanic
zombies
they pulled off really well I think, and I had a lot of fun playing with/around it.

The whole casino thing also felt very cramped since it was not in an expansive environment, and so that may be why I'm already enjoying the Utah DLC much more.
 
Blue Ninja said:
I entered Caesar's tent. He started ranting to me. "So, you're the Courier who took back Nelson. Who wiped out Cottonwood Cove. Yada yada yada yada yada yada yada."
The bastard presumed he could order me around, and then handed the Platinum Chip back over. I realized, "Why not blow this guy up, right here, right now." I've killed Caesar before, but never in the initial meeting, with almost no weapons or stims on me.

Did that today:

1. Used Minigun. Screw this, too much ammo wasted (300 shots)

2. Used Holy Hand Grenade. Kinda fun, but Benny got killed.

3. Put Stealth Boy on, sniped everyone I could, Thermic Lance execution on others. Left Benny to rot in Legion Tent :)

Also is it just me, or does siding with
Mr. House
seem like the best way to go? (spoilers to factions backgrounds)
he worked hard to save Vegas before the war, almost succeeded. NCR are a bunch of dicks, only interested in annexing land. They do not care for people, do not protect caravans, etc. Legion are blood-thirsty slavers, so that's a big no. Sure, you could go with Yes Man, but if you are playing a good character why screw over someone who watched over you, gave you the job, and never tried to double-cross you?
 

Sotha Sil

Member
Blue Ninja said:
I entered Caesar's tent. He started ranting to me. "So, you're the Courier who took back Nelson. Who wiped out Cottonwood Cove. Yada yada yada yada yada yada yada."
The bastard presumed he could order me around, and then handed the Platinum Chip back over. I realized, "Why not blow this guy up, right here, right now." I've killed Caesar before, but never in the initial meeting, with almost no weapons or stims on me.

I feigned going outside, and activated my Stealth Boy. I snuck around the tent, planting C4 charges on Lucius and two other Praetorian guards. I stood up in the middle of the tent, waited for my Stealth Boy to run out, and then pressed the "EXPLODE!"-button. Explode they did.

I then whipped out the Mysterious Magnum, switched to SWC rounds, and opened fire on the surviving Praetorian. Once he was dead, it was just me and Caesar... But the old guy died quickly enough.

Needless to say, total badassery was achieved.


And I thought ripping his head off in one-to-one unarmed combat was cool. Bravo, good sir. Bravo.
 
Derrick01 said:
Can someone explain to me why the old mormon fort in freeside was completely under (irradiated) water when I walked in? This never happened on any of my other playthroughs, and it kinda fucks things up with a few quests as no one's here.

Obsidian has the strangest damn bugs ever.

edit: I take that back, everyone's still here....they're about 200 feet in the sky doing swimming motions. When I swam up to the "surface", I was in the sky above all of freeside, not just the fort.

I was always surprised when it was announced that a Bethsda engine (well not the base engine) was going to be used by Obsedian, that there weren't more jokes about it having potential for being the most buggy game in existence.
 
120 hours played, and I'm still finding quests that I didn't know about before. Just met Tom Torini (lol), discovered Carlitos in Vault 21, and am deciding whether or not to blackmail Cachino.
 
Castor Krieg said:
Also is it just me, or does siding with
Mr. House
seem like the best way to go? (spoilers to factions backgrounds)
he worked hard to save Vegas before the war, almost succeeded. NCR are a bunch of dicks, only interested in annexing land. They do not care for people, do not protect caravans, etc. Legion are blood-thirsty slavers, so that's a big no. Sure, you could go with Yes Man, but if you are playing a good character why screw over someone who watched over you, gave you the job, and never tried to double-cross you?

I'd agree with you if it weren't for the whole
you have to destroy the Brotherhood of Steel bunker thing.
 

54-46!

Member
Is there any mod that disables all stats influenced aiming as well VATS / AP in favor of a FPS style combat system? where the shooting isn't decided by dice rolls.
 

hemtae

Member
Castor Krieg said:
Also is it just me, or does siding with
Mr. House
seem like the best way to go? (spoilers to factions backgrounds)
he worked hard to save Vegas before the war, almost succeeded. NCR are a bunch of dicks, only interested in annexing land. They do not care for people, do not protect caravans, etc. Legion are blood-thirsty slavers, so that's a big no. Sure, you could go with Yes Man, but if you are playing a good character why screw over someone who watched over you, gave you the job, and never tried to double-cross you?

Because he's an arrogant prick. That an he wants to go all 1984 on the Mojave. Like somebody else said earlier in this thread, the best side is your side. Everybody else needs to be taken down a peg.
 

Hyunkel6

Member
rainking187 said:
I'd agree with you if it weren't for the whole
you have to destroy the Brotherhood of Steel bunker thing. I can't side with anyone that would make me murder people and won't be persuaded otherwise. At least if I pick the NCR route I'm able to talk them out of making me kill the Great Khans.
But you can't
talk the NCR out of making you kill the Brotherhood of Steel
, right? I was siding with the NCR until I hit that point and then decided to side with
Yesman
.
 

hemtae

Member
Hyunkel6 said:
But you can't
talk the NCR out of making you kill the Brotherhood of Steel
, right? I was siding with the NCR until I hit that point and then decided to side with
Yesman
.

You can't if you put Hardin in charge, but if McNamura is still in charge at the end of the Still in the Dark quest then you can
 
Hyunkel6 said:
But you can't
talk the NCR out of making you kill the Brotherhood of Steel
, right? I was siding with the NCR until I hit that point and then decided to side with
Yesman
.

I didn't have to kill the Brotherhood of Steel for the NCR. I'm assuming I talked them out of it or something, I've beaten the game with three of the four endings, and so far House is the only one that forced me to kill the Brotherhood of Steel.
 

edgefusion

Member
Castor Krieg said:
Also is it just me, or does siding with
Mr. House
seem like the best way to go? (spoilers to factions backgrounds)
he worked hard to save Vegas before the war, almost succeeded. NCR are a bunch of dicks, only interested in annexing land. They do not care for people, do not protect caravans, etc. Legion are blood-thirsty slavers, so that's a big no. Sure, you could go with Yes Man, but if you are playing a good character why screw over someone who watched over you, gave you the job, and never tried to double-cross you?

I feel basically the exact same way. The game sets up Mr. House as being this vaguely creepy guy who most likely has ill intent tucked away behind his business-like facade. I played his ending expecting him to show his true self and screw me and Vegas over at the last second but he actually has ambitious technological dreams for mankind. It doesn't sound like he wants to go all 1984 either, he explicitly mentions that he has no interest in interfering with the inhabitants of Vegas.
 
Speaking of taking sides, the new character I rolled (S - 4, P - 5, E - 3, C - 10, I - 10, A - 4, L - 5... I think) is going to be completely independent of alignment. I plan on not taking a single NCR, Legion, Yes Man, or House quest. Any quest I plan on doing is going to be all side stuff, and up to my character's Neutral/Neutral Good status. Level 2 and I'm trying to sneak past Quarry Junction straight into Vegas.

Those fucking Deathclaws have good peepers.
 

edgefusion

Member
disappeared said:
Speaking of taking sides, the new character I rolled (S - 3, P - 5, E - 3, C - 10, I - 10, A - 4, L - 5) is going to be completely independent of alignment. I plan on not taking a single NCR, Legion, Yes Man, or House quest. Any quest I plan on doing is going to be all side stuff, and up to my character's Neutral/Neutral Good status. Level 2 and I'm trying to sneak past Quarry Junction straight into Vegas.

Those fucking Deathclaws have good peepers.

Why did you put your Charisma to 10? SPEIAL for the win, imo. Also heading straight to Vegas to clean out the casinos at level 1 is a great idea. I netted something close to 40K, bought all the implants along with some great armour that at level 13 I'm still wearing.
 
rainking187 said:
I'd agree with you if it weren't for the whole
you have to destroy the Brotherhood of Steel bunker thing.

Sucks that Wiki mentions
there was an option to pass Speech check and talk House out of destroying the BoS, but it was removed from the game. Strange, given that BoS has a beef with NCR after Helios One, but House never did them any harm
.


edgefusion said:
Also heading straight to Vegas to clean out the casinos at level 1 is a great idea. I netted something close to 40K, bought all the implants along with some great armour that at level 13 I'm still wearing.

Shame that patch fixed max bets on slot machines. Wiki still says it's 200, while max you can bet is 75. Still, all casinos will give you approx. 40k.

disappeared said:
Level 2 and I'm trying to sneak past Quarry Junction straight into Vegas.

Those fucking Deathclaws have good peepers.

Go the regular way, it's way easier.
 

Sober

Member
Castor Krieg said:
Sucks that Wiki mentions
there was an option to pass Speech check and talk House out of destroying the BoS, but it was removed from the game. Strange, given that BoS has a beef with NCR after Helios One, but House never did them any harm
.
I think it's just House playing it safe with the BoS since I'm sure they'd try to make a move after he consolidates power in New Vegas. I'm sure the BoS would want to get their hands on his Securitrons, since as far as I remember the BoS was really only in hiding because of the NCR's presence in the Mojave.
 
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