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Fallout New Vegas |OT| Obsidian does what Bethesdon't

Oh god damn it. I keep unintentionally helping out the NCR, I just want some sidequests :(

Where can I find the Legion? I'm roaming around the outskirts of the strip at the moment.
 
toasty_T said:
Oh god damn it. I keep unintentionally helping out the NCR, I just want some sidequests :(

Where can I find the Legion? I'm roaming around the outskirts of the strip at the moment.
Once you do the quest "he went that-a-way" a guy will come up to you giving you a quest to find the legion.
 
toasty_T said:
Oh god damn it. I keep unintentionally helping out the NCR, I just want some sidequests :(

Where can I find the Legion? I'm roaming around the outskirts of the strip at the moment.

Don't worry, there's a quest in the Strip (extremely important one you can't miss) which will result in them making contact with you.

Edit: Beaten by 4 minutes, how the hell did that happen?
 

moojito

Member
My character is all about the energy weapons. My gun skill is right down at like 20 or 30. Should I hold off going into honest hearts, or load up on energy weapon ammo before heading in? I get the impression there's not a lot for the energy weapon user in there.
 
Talking about DLC, after playing Old World Blues I have to say Dead Money is still my favorite add on by far, OWB was great in terms of content but DM's story was so much better.
 
If there's one thing I really enjoy about this game is that a lot of the people you come across actually have a quest or two to hand out if the conversational direction heads the right way.

Even the characters that come across as info dispensers might have something that needs doing or hint at something that ultimately leads to a quest. Really cool.
 
moojito said:
My character is all about the energy weapons. My gun skill is right down at like 20 or 30. Should I hold off going into honest hearts, or load up on energy weapon ammo before heading in? I get the impression there's not a lot for the energy weapon user in there.

Make sure you do a lot of spelunking, and you'll be fine.

Fjordson said:
Totally agreed with that first point, though I highly doubt it'll happen. And at the end of the day, I did enjoy FO 3's story well enough (except for the dumb ending before the DLC fixed it). I'm just excited for whatever the future holds for Fallout. New Vegas has completely reinvigorated my love for the franchise.

I fear the change in writers will be particularly jarring. And location for that matter. Fallout has always felt best to me as a tale of the Future-Retro-Old West.
 

Corky

Nine out of ten orphans can't tell the difference.
I'm going to try and reinstall the game for the 3rd and final time and run it with 0 mods. None, zip , zilch, not even a UI mod that makes the font better.

Is there, anyway , to make the game more stable in vanilla?
 

moojito

Member
Corky said:
I'm going to try and reinstall the game for the 3rd and final time and run it with 0 mods. None, zip , zilch, not even a UI mod that makes the font better.

Is there, anyway , to make the game more stable in vanilla?

The game is stable. I've had very few crashes. It's more than likely a conflict with something on your pc, or a driver, etc. Maybe try disabling all your startup programs with msconfig and see how it goes.
 

Corky

Nine out of ten orphans can't tell the difference.
moojito said:
The game is stable.

Wait, what? Are you talking about your experiences or are you just totally dismissing mine? I've got a brand new pc with minimal things installed on it and the most stable nvidia drivers. The game didn't even boot without going into compatibility mode and after removing all mods I managed to leave Doc Mitchells house ( 1 min into the game ) without it instantly crashing. Rebooted the game and now it wouldn't even start. Redownloaded the game for a 2nd time, then instead it crashed 4-5 times within 20 mins of me running around in goodspring so I uninstalled it completely.

So no, it's not stable, you might be totally right though maybe it's conflicting with something, my mousepad or my hdmi cable... who the hell knows when the game didn't even boot without tweaking the executables.

Sorry if I come across abit acerbic but I really wanted to try the game out and I literally wasted 24h reading different forums and redownloading all the games 8 or w/e gb several times to no avail.
 

Lothars

Member
Corky said:
I'm going to try and reinstall the game for the 3rd and final time and run it with 0 mods. None, zip , zilch, not even a UI mod that makes the font better.

Is there, anyway , to make the game more stable in vanilla?
I would try to set it in compatibility mode for windows xp sp3 otherwise It should work for you especially since you have minimal programs installed.

I found I had to do that after installing the DLC and it fixed the problem I had.
 
Sorry to hear you're having so much trouble Corky. Next time you install it make a Steam backup so at least you don't have to download it all over again if anything screws up.
 
I'm about 13 hours into New Vegas, and I'm really enjoying it! I was a bit skeptical at first, because I was really worn out on Bethesda's Fallout 3, but Obsidian really knows how to handle this. The world, weapons, dialogue, quests, etc.. are already much more inventive and entertaining than Fallout 3's. I'm in awe of how much that I can accomplish before I beat this game, DLC and all.

I've heard about many bugs, and I've experienced a few, but nothing game-breaking. I do have the 360 version, so that could be a plus? I had to download some patches at the beginning, so I assume that it takes care of many of the game-breaking elements.
 

randomwab

Member
Just went back to this after about six months. My save was 65 hours in, level 23 and I hadn't even touched the strip.

Of course, I immediately fall into a game breaking bug. Whenever I leave the Brotherhood of Steel bunker, the game freezes, Fucking fuck.
 

Erudite

Member
I'm surprised that the DLC I've enjoyed the most so far is Dead Money, mainly because of the great cast of characters.

I went into it thinking it'd be the worst from taking a quick glance at the Meta-score of it, but damn did I ever love it right to the end, despite some of the annoying mechanics they introduced in it.

Didn't really like Honest Hearts. Despite a new landmass to explore, the characters were all just so uninteresting to me. Story and characters is the main reason I'm still playing at this point, as my character is pretty much unstoppable now. The combat has worn fairly thin on me at this point.

About an hour or so into Old World Blues, and it has me hoping that by the conclusion, I'll have enjoyed the characters in it just as much as I enjoyed the characters in Dead Money. So far it's looking promising.
 
bonesmccoy said:
I fear the change in writers will be particularly jarring. And location for that matter. Fallout has always felt best to me as a tale of the Future-Retro-Old West.
Well to be fair we've mostly known Fallout as a wild west apocalypse (3 mostly follows that just in a destroyed metropolis). 40 hours into NV and I'm definitely preferring the Capital Wasteland to the Mojave Wasteland. And I'm finding the writing to hit somewhat higher highs than 3 but it's fairly inconsistent. I'm not particularly liking the developments on The Strip and Freeside. Ultra-Luxe was pretty cool though. I do think NV is better than whatever Van Buren would've been. They had a lot of time to reflect on that project and refine the story telling.

I've said it before but I'd love a mix of Bethesda and Obsidian people working on the next Fallout. I think both teams had a lot to learn about making Fallout work in 3D as a FPS-RPG. And moving forward together they could come with something even better than 3 and NV. Especially since no matter what it'll be running on Bethesda's engine.
 
Finally finished Old World Blues. I was having such fun too.

The conversations with individual Think Tank members were a huge highlight. There was a delightfully flawed bent to all of their personalities, the most obvious of course being Dr Borous with his obsession with getting back at the kids who picked on him in high school... centuries ago.

Getting Dr Dala off by breathing for her and earning Dr 8's trust by telling him how my character uses the oscillating charge from a microfusion cell as a sex aid both had me in tears. I wish I had high enough speech to have let them live, in spite of their desperate desire to lobotomise the entire Mojave I kind of liked them.

I used my once off trait respec to swap Wild Wasteland for Logan's Loophole after I finished OWB since I've done the rest of the game with WW already and I'm keen to keep this character for Lonesome Road but don't want to get too overpowered.

I'm in Dead Money now, so far nothing new as a result of completing OWB though.
 
jim-jam bongs said:
Finally finished Old World Blues. I was having such fun too.

The conversations with individual Think Tank members were a huge highlight. There was a delightfully flawed bent to all of their personalities, the most obvious of course being Dr Borous with his obsession with getting back at the kids who picked on him in high school... centuries ago.

Getting Dr Dala off by breathing for her and earning Dr 8's trust by telling him how my character uses the oscillating charge from a microfusion cell as a sex aid both had me in tears. I wish I had high enough speech to have let them live, in spite of their desperate desire to lobotomise the entire Mojave I kind of liked them.

I don't think you need a speech check, you just have to
gained the trust of the other brains, then ask Klein to confer with them first. They all stick up for you and you can convince Klein to stay put and work for you.
 
HadesGigas said:
I don't think you need a speech check, you just have to
gained the trust of the other brains, then ask Klein to confer with them first. They all stick up for you and you can convince Klein to stay put and work for you.

Damn it.
The only brain I hadn't earned the trust of was Dr O. Although his trust condition is a speech check so I don't think I could have done it anyway.
 
jim-jam bongs said:
Damn it.
The only brain I hadn't earned the trust of was Dr O. Although his trust condition is a speech check so I don't think I could have done it anyway.

Looks like you'd still be good (
and yeah Dr. 0's quest requires either 9 int or Math Wrath as well
).

If the player has completed at least three of the four side quests What's In A Name?, On The Same Wavelength, A Brain's Best Friend and Coming Out of Her Shell, they can tell Klein to confer with his colleagues and the others support the view of the Courier, which allows the player to reason with the Think Tank without using the high skill checks.
 
HadesGigas said:
Looks like you'd still be good (
and yeah Dr. 0's quest requires either 9 int or Math Wrath as well
).

Bummer, I left it because when you first speak to him about his name there's a speech check so I assumed it was a speech oriented quest. My character actually does have Math Wrath and 10 INT.

Ah well, something for next time.
 

Grinchy

Banned
Man this game is good. I haven't even bothered installing any mods and I have no DLC. I should really install the running speed mod, but whatever. I even take back what I said before about not liking to play it with keyboard/mouse. I still love the comfort of playing on my TV with a controller, but KB/M has its luxuries as well.
 
ChoklitReign said:
Can you use mentats or other Int stacks?

Probably. Pretty sure I was wearing Int boosting glasses at the time.
Dr Mobius's glasses give +2 Int and are in the Think Tank behind a locked door
.

And I like how you need such high intelligence for this, in order to figure out to
"put a slash through the 0".
 

Fjordson

Member
Welp...I have a handful of quests now sending me into the vaults. Looks like it's time to sack up and finally take 'em on. The vaults can be so damn creepy (I'm a games coward) =(
 
Fjordson said:
Welp...I have a handful of quests now sending me into the vaults. Looks like it's time to sack up and finally take 'em on. The vaults can be so damn creepy (I'm a games coward) =(

You should head to Vault 11. It's a happy vault, for reals.
 
I noticed that I never got the cheese mints for finishing OWB, then remembered I had to use the console to work around a bug so they were disabled. I decided to use it as an excuse to load an old save and
let the Think Tank live.

KarmaCow said:
Stumbling in there was one the best moments in the game so far. When it all clicks, wow.

It was the moment just before you find out the big secret at the end of that vault (you know the part I mean) where I realised that New Vegas is a seriously special game.
 

Fjordson

Member
I made it through Vault 22. It was horrible. Not the gameplay, it was actually really interesting going through it. Especially reading all the terminal entries. But horrible in that it scared the shit out of me all the way through. Lots of weird noises, the sound of banging doors constantly going off in the distance, and the two sorts of enemies that I hate more than anything else: ones that suddenly appear and jump out at you and bugs. Ugh. Thank god my repair was high enough to fix the elevator.

Also, my companions kept running off and leaving me alone.

Vault 3 was, uh, less stressful we'll say to avoid spoilers lol. Just have Vault 11 left now.
 
Fjordson said:
I made it through Vault 22. It was horrible.

First time through, I was playing a guns/sneak character, Vault 22 creeped me out.

Second time, I was playing melee/unarmed. Somehow, being able to run around punching the hell out of everything that moved made it a lot less creepy!
 

mnbnguyen

Member
This is my first fallout game and so far it's been pretty great. I was prepared for a buggy mess, but it never came.

80 something hours in and still so much to do.

I'm working Cass' quest.
Killed everyone inside the Silver Rush, dragged their bodies into the men's restroom and closed the door. I was thinking of going with the peaceful route but Jean-Baptiste Cutting was being a dickweed. I let Simon live though, he's a-okay.
:D
 

54-46!

Member
How many skills should I focus on when building my character? I was thinking about going for a Sniper build with Guns, Lockpick, Repair and Stealth on my first playthrough.
 

Cptkrush

Member
54-46! said:
How many skills should I focus on when building my character? I was thinking about going for a Sniper build with Guns, Lockpick, Repair and Stealth on my first playthrough.
I usually do this on my snipers,
Tag: Guns, Stealth, Repair (level lockpick along with them)
SPECIAL:
S-5
P-5
E-5
C-1
I-9
A-10
L-5

I'm not one to put too much thought into it, but it's always a fun build, especially when you start building up sneak. On PC with Perk Every Level, I get Intense Training maxed out so I end up with more perception and either luck or strength. Sometimes I'll drop Int for Perception, but it's not really a big deal, more skill points is usually better than seeing things sooner.

Science is good to have, but not necessary. You should level melee toward the end, you'll get bored of just shooting from afar and then you'll switch to third person and melee shit all the time, I mean, if you're like me. Medicine is great to have, avoid survival and barter, and speech, unless you want to be diplomatic.
 
i installed the game on my PC after having it only on PS3 and i stopped playing after talking to Dynamite Pete the scavenger. I don't know why, my love for this game is unconditional, but i couldn't go through another playthrough even though I was on the superior PC!

is there something wrong with me?
i think i'm just done with modern video games

i mean i love this game stupidly a lot yet i feel... oh god... no don't type it... that Fallout 3 is more replayable than this despite being inferior in every way in my mind. oh my god i'm sorry Sawyer :(

i can't replay any of these modern games. i can replay Fallout 1 and 2 over and over. but this? no..
 
I was wondering, which trophies require a single playthrough? I looked on the Fallout Wiki, but wasn't sure if trophies involving 10,000 had to be done in one go.

Thanks
 

one85x

Member
33-Hit-Combo said:
I was wondering, which trophies require a single playthrough? I looked on the Fallout Wiki, but wasn't sure if trophies involving 10,000 had to be done in one go.

Thanks
Those types of trophies all have to be done on a single character. Dealing 5,000 damage on one character and 5,000 on another won't work.
 
ezekial45 said:
There's a perk that will allow you to retry closed computers.
Thanks! Had it happen to me a couple of times, but would always reload the save. I was just wondering if there was any other way besides loading the save. :lol
 

Grinchy

Banned
Shadowlink said:
Thanks! Had it happen to me a couple of times, but would always reload the save. I was just wondering if there was any other way besides loading the save. :lol
Basically you want to turn the computer off before your 4th guess if you're not positive that you have it correctly. You have to start all over, but then at least you'll never have a computer lock you out. I really love the hacking in this game.



BTW, does anyone know if I'm screwed on this? I stole a bunch of stuff from the White Glove Society inside their casino. I never alerted anyone. I kept exploring the casino, and after going through one of the doors, all of a sudden they all wanted to kill me (was just a regular zone door). There was no warning that I was ever caught stealing or anything. I've waited 3+ days in the wasteland, but they still want to kill me when I enter. Do I have to wait more than 3 days or am I just screwed anyway?
 
Fjordson said:
Welp...I have a handful of quests now sending me into the vaults. Looks like it's time to sack up and finally take 'em on. The vaults can be so damn creepy (I'm a games coward) =(

Vaults are generally my least favorite parts of Fallout 3 and New Vegas. Wandering around identical looking poorly lit coridors. I don't think I've ever not gotten lost in a vault.
 

bengraven

Member
What the hell...I was doing a very easy or easy computer and I had 5 tries instead of 4. I don't remember when that happened. Was that a perk?

(I have the leveled perks mod where you get the associated perk for your level automatically and free, so sometimes I get perks and not know it)
 

hemtae

Member
bengraven said:
What the hell...I was doing a very easy or easy computer and I had 5 tries instead of 4. I don't remember when that happened. Was that a perk?

(I have the leveled perks mod where you get the associated perk for your level automatically and free, so sometimes I get perks and not know it)

You probably choose something that had some brackets or parenthesis around it. There's a good post in here some where that will explain that

EDIT: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=28822426&postcount=13058
 
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