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Topher

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Suspect of what? something some rando said? The burden of proof is on the accuser, you can't just haul someone in because of hearsay and then require them to prove their innocence.

Police can come to anyone's home to investigate a reported crime, but they still have to have a warrant to enter. How is that not the case in your country? If someone mistakenly reported me as an illegal alien then I can produce documents showing that's bullshit in a matter of seconds. I'm only going to get "hauled away" if I'm suspected of committing a crime, in this case being in the country illegally. If ICE or police have a warrant to enter your home then there is more here than simply what "some rando said".
 

Killjoy-NL

Member
Police can come to anyone's home to investigate a reported crime, but they still have to have a warrant to enter. How is that not the case in your country? If someone mistakenly reported me as an illegal alien then I can produce documents showing that's bullshit in a matter of seconds. I'm only going to get "hauled away" if I'm suspected of committing a crime, in this case being in the country illegally. If ICE or police have a warrant to enter your home then there is more here than simply what "some rando said".
They're basically commiting razzias though.
 
Police can come to anyone's home to investigate a reported crime, but they still have to have a warrant to enter. How is that not the case in your country? If someone mistakenly reported me as an illegal alien then I can produce documents showing that's bullshit in a matter of seconds. I'm only going to get "hauled away" if I'm suspected of committing a crime, in this case being in the country illegally. If ICE or police have a warrant to enter your home then there is more here than simply what "some rando said".
None of this is relevant to the question I asked and the subsequent "yes" answers received.
 
What question? What crime are they suspected of? Entering the country illegally. Thought that was pretty obvious. What "yes" answers are you talking about?
I've only asked one question, which several people have responded to, including you indirectly.
 
Somebody commits a crime, gets punished. Nobody would be shocked if they heard that. It's only because over the years people have been gaslighted into thinking entering a country illegally is not a crime. It used to be illegal immigrants, then it was undocumented immigrants and I just read today unauthorized persons.
Don’t all of that means the same thing though lol in the end I guess the words aren’t as harsh anymore? So you’re having a gripe with that? Confused really lol
 

Topher

Identifies as young
I didn't make any assumptions, I asked a question and the answer was yes.

Suggesting this is all due to what "some rando said" is an assumption as is stating that this was a case of "guilty until proven innocent". You are far too eager to accept "yes" as an answer to something that is more complicated than a simple yes/no response.
 

Topher

Identifies as young
It's not an assumption because I suggested no such thing, what I said there was in line with my question, which I worded to be about no case in particular.

"guilty until proven innocent" was a statement, not a question. If your question about "some rando" was legit then my response was absolutely relevant.
 
"guilty until proven innocent" was a statement, not a question
That's correct, so I dunno why you're bringing that up; as said my question was about no case in particular, which is what "some rando" refers to, and thus isn't about this case, as you are implying with saying that I'm "suggesting this is all due to...". I haven't suggested anything about this case, I asked a question in general and the answer was yes.
 

Topher

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That's correct, so I dunno why you're bringing that up; as said my question was about no case in particular, which is what "some rando" refers to, and thus isn't about this case, as you are implying with saying that I'm "suggesting this is all due to...". I haven't suggested anything about this case, I asked a question in general and the answer was yes.

Because stating that "guilty until proven innocent" is "expected" in the US is just bullshit. My answer applies to any case, not just this one.
 
Don’t all of that means the same thing though lol in the end I guess the words aren’t as harsh anymore? So you’re having a gripe with that? Confused really lol
As much as I hate to say it but words have power as to why they come for language. Undocumented doesn't sound like a crime. It's sounds like you just forgot your passport. The reality is that they dumped their documents at the border so you can't find out who they are. Taking without consent doesn't sound as bad as stealing.
 
As much as I hate to say it but words have power as to why they come for language. Undocumented doesn't sound like a crime. It's sounds like you just forgot your passport. The reality is that they dumped their documents at the border so you can't find out who they are. Taking without consent doesn't sound as bad as stealing.
Idk everyone around my city and town knows if you say undocumented we automatically assume you’re illegal and it’s a crime. Just because the word changes doesn’t mean it’s not the same thing (crime) unless people are this ignorant and have no idea how things work. That’s why I’m confused by what you’re saying lol
 
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Idk everyone around my city and town knows if you say undocumented we automatically assume you’re illegal and it’s a crime. Just because the word changes doesn’t mean it’s not the same thing (crime) unless people are this ignorant and have no idea how things work. That’s why I’m confused by what you’re saying lol
People wouldn't be changing the wording of things if it has no effect. It does. You underestimate the effect that it has on peoples perception of things. Why do you think people are so obsessed with the wording of gender and sex and everything else. You are arguing with human linguistic history. This is a well established psychological effect. They wouldn't be marking it sound less bad if literally had no effect. About 50% of the Politics spectrum would be completely wasting their time then.
 

Guilty_AI

Member
Suspect of what? something some rando said? The burden of proof is on the accuser, you can't just haul someone in because of hearsay and then require them to prove their innocence.
You're mixing arrests with sentences. You can be arrested for random reasons like this, to be sentenced and made do prison time is when you need to be proven guilty.
 
You know what people do when they think they are being treated unfairly? They record it on their phone.
You know what people don't do when they have the police pointing guns at him? Describe the situation to their internet friends using their keyboard

I find this really suspicious.
 
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People wouldn't be changing the wording of things if it has no effect. It does. You underestimate the effect that it has on peoples perception of things. Why do you think people are so obsessed with the wording of gender and sex and everything else. You are arguing with human linguistic history. This is a well established psychological effect. They wouldn't be marking it sound less bad if literally had no effect. About 50% of the Politics spectrum would be completely wasting their time then.
Potato potato and as far as sex and gender that’s people getting brainwashed by woke nonsense outside of the internet I rarely encounter more then 5 of these people weekly. let me give you example gay and faggot means the same thing one just a little more derogatory I put it in the same boat, the only reason people switched to undocumented immigrants instead of illegal immigrants is to make people feel safer in my opinion.

in the end it’s still the same thing.
 
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