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Fans Are Tired of 100 Hour Long Games, Says Former Starfield Dev
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PeteBull
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I rise u to:
Fans are tired of 100 hours long bad Bethesda games
Give us proper, good, non woke but high quality elder scrolls 6 and we will spend 500 hours in it no probs, especially with mods xD
Angry_Megalodon
Member
It never ceases to amaze me how out of touch the guys in Western studios are. People are tired of bland open worlds filled with boring bullshit, like Starfield.
Kiya's Guard
Member
We are tired of filler, souless content. Of course a game that has 100h of actual proper content would cost a liver to buy, and a fortune to develop.
I have resumed ac valhalla recently and, my god, I better take it really easy and slow with this one (contrary with what I did with odyssey that I rushed it so I could call it done after years of dragging it out), and swap it with other games along the way. I understand there's something to having a "comfy place" to return each playing session, and for many of the people that like this kind of filler content, they play one or two games a year and that's it. But damn, I prefer a good 10h campaign over a 50h dragged out like hell
I have resumed ac valhalla recently and, my god, I better take it really easy and slow with this one (contrary with what I did with odyssey that I rushed it so I could call it done after years of dragging it out), and swap it with other games along the way. I understand there's something to having a "comfy place" to return each playing session, and for many of the people that like this kind of filler content, they play one or two games a year and that's it. But damn, I prefer a good 10h campaign over a 50h dragged out like hell
Fbh
Member
The problem isn't 100 hours games.
The problem is 100 hours games that don't have enough variety and an engaging enough gameplay loop to remain interesting and fun to play for 100 hours.
I want most games to be shorter not because there is anything wrong with a long game, but because most games just aren't good and varied enough to justify being 60+ hours long
The problem is 100 hours games that don't have enough variety and an engaging enough gameplay loop to remain interesting and fun to play for 100 hours.
I want most games to be shorter not because there is anything wrong with a long game, but because most games just aren't good and varied enough to justify being 60+ hours long
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Not if they are really good, e.g., Elden Ring, Baldur's Gate 3, Persona, Metaphor ReFantazio, RDR 2.
Gamers are tired of boring games without any substance.
Gamers are tired of boring games without any substance.
genesisblock
Member
It's another Self fulfilling prophecy. Make games that don't resonate with gamers and assume it's a change of trends instead of enhancing games experiences. Let's see if this applies to GTA6 when it releases.
I can’t say that I disagree. There will always be exceptions, like GTA, but I’m not going to play a game that takes forever to beat. I won’t touch a Persona game with a ten foot pole. I quite enjoyed Final Fantasy VII Remake, but I’ve held off playing VII Rebirth because of the time investment required.
Radical_3d
Member
Do I want to spend 2.000+ hours on the next Civilization? Yes!
Do I want to spend 5 minutes on a Bethesda game? No.
Guess the difference.
Do I want to spend 5 minutes on a Bethesda game? No.
Guess the difference.
Punished Miku
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I like a mixture of both.
vaibhavpisal
Member
I want to play shorter games but always end up
-getting wrapped up in bigger games (100+ hrs)
Or
-playing short games for too long (40-50 hrs) so it becomes a big game.
-getting wrapped up in bigger games (100+ hrs)
Or
-playing short games for too long (40-50 hrs) so it becomes a big game.
MonkD
Member
As if people aren't putting 100hours into games like CoD and Fortnite (each season). People will play your game for as long as they are fun. You could tell these games would get boring if the followed the Skyrim formula where you actually get generic quests that start repeating after just a couple of hours (the radiant quest stuff). On the other end of the spectrum we have open world games like Spider-Man 2 where all of the side content is just a generic, even though it's not automatically generated.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
fans are tired of games not meeting their expectations.
Boss Mog
Member
No, we're just tired of shit games made by talentless DEI hires. I recently put 150 hours into FF7 Rebirth and plan to put more in to beat it on hard mode. Before that it was 130 hours of Cyberpunk+Phantom Liberty and I loved every minute of it. I've played plenty of 100+ hour games this gen and last gen. If a game is good and I enjoy playing it then I'm happy if it's 100+ hours long.
Gojiira
Member
I love the arrogance of thinking Fallout 4 had any hand in popularising anything in games…
Anyway long games aren’t the issue, its how poor said games are. Fallout 4 is a great example, shit game,awful quest design and enemies, no RPG…Its a game with endless filler. And thats the issue.
Games like Baldurs Gate 3, Elden Ring or Witcher 3 dont have this problem.
Anyway long games aren’t the issue, its how poor said games are. Fallout 4 is a great example, shit game,awful quest design and enemies, no RPG…Its a game with endless filler. And thats the issue.
Games like Baldurs Gate 3, Elden Ring or Witcher 3 dont have this problem.
diffusionx
Gold Member
no Bethesda, it's a "you" problem.
Nobody wants to play your shitty game.
Nobody wants to play your shitty game.
Complistic
Member
Umm nope. Fans just want good games. 100 hour long games are great if they're fun. Some game devs seem clueless lately.
HJuggernaut
Member
thats why skyrim was so successful and ppl still play it. maybe starfield was 100h of crap which is why ppl didn't like it...
HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
Give me great 12 hour 70 EUR games, I'll be buying. Fuck filler and padding bullshit
Efren is G.O.A.T.
Member
I love long games as long as they're fun! FF7Rebirth could have been 200 hours and I would have been happy too
rm082e
Member
No, we aren't. Not only can I say this personally, but the data clearly shows players are dumping huge amounts of hours into a smaller list of games that they just keep playing.
Personally, I love 100 hour long games. In fact, just about every year I pick one of my favorite long games and replay them. Almost all of my favorite games are long games.
But I have standards. If a game is long, it needs to be good so I feel satisfied with the time I invested in it. If you make one that's just "okay", I'll pass. And if you can't make a good one, then don't try. This is basic risk vs. reward.
This reminds me of that interview from 2011 with some guy at EA who said "players aren't interested in these long single-player games anymore. That's why we're focusing on multiplayer games." Shortly after that interview, Skyrim came out...
Personally, I love 100 hour long games. In fact, just about every year I pick one of my favorite long games and replay them. Almost all of my favorite games are long games.
But I have standards. If a game is long, it needs to be good so I feel satisfied with the time I invested in it. If you make one that's just "okay", I'll pass. And if you can't make a good one, then don't try. This is basic risk vs. reward.
This reminds me of that interview from 2011 with some guy at EA who said "players aren't interested in these long single-player games anymore. That's why we're focusing on multiplayer games." Shortly after that interview, Skyrim came out...
coachmcguirk91
Member
I think the expectations for gamers when it comes to big RPG experiences is just much higher nowadays because the genre has exploded in recent years. Publishers like Ubisoft, Bethesda, and Bioware thought they could continually release the same generic slop and gamers would continue to buy their games as they did 5 years ago
I think it's healthy and good for the industry when games like Veilguard and Starfield don't sell well. It forces publishers to adapt and change the way they develop games in the future
Gamers will happily play big RPGs as long as they provide new and unique experiences. That is why BG3 and Elden Ring sold incredibly well. Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 will almost surely be another example when it releases next month
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there is no way to do long games without padding and repetition.
as a man who loves this hobby, that is also a father of two and a husband, doing the same shit infinite times because the studio had to pad the empty areas with "something" is the bane of my existence.
Quality over quantity.
as a man who loves this hobby, that is also a father of two and a husband, doing the same shit infinite times because the studio had to pad the empty areas with "something" is the bane of my existence.
Quality over quantity.
FeralEcho
Member
People who love 100 hour games probably play 5 games their entire life.
More power to you if you do but as someone with a backlog to last 3 lifetimes I'd welcome the return of the replayable 8-9 hour campaigns of yesteryear,it would certainly be the better experience without the useless bloat that fills 100 hour games of today anyway, that's for sure.
More power to you if you do but as someone with a backlog to last 3 lifetimes I'd welcome the return of the replayable 8-9 hour campaigns of yesteryear,it would certainly be the better experience without the useless bloat that fills 100 hour games of today anyway, that's for sure.
phant0m
Member
This is it right here. Yes, people are still playing COD, Fortnite, Destiny 2 and Apex for 100s of hours.
But general single-player stuff? Completion rates of games longer than 30 hours are abysmal. Sure there are some games that through their design encourage multiple play throughs and let you sink long hours off the main path, eg Baldur’s Gate 3.
Indy is a great game that tells a great story with solid gameplay and bangs it out in 25h. Modern JRPGs are some of worst offenders: the “golden years” of Square (FF VI - IX) were all around 30-40 hours. Hell, Chrono Trigger is only ~25ish. FF VII Remake? Two 40+ hour pieces with a 3rd still to come. Does Metaphor really need to be 85+ h?
I don’t have time for that shit man, too much stuff coming out.
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Hawkeye2890
Member
Nope. Just tired of woke shit.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I'm very glad you didn't mention Rebirth in there, it's a good 50 hour JRPG bloated to a needless 100~ hr length.
Idleyes
Gold Member
The gaming industry is no different from the music, movie, or television industries in terms of variety and accessibility. All types of games are available to suit a wide range of preferences, and the idea that all games should conform to a single standard just because one gamer prefers a certain style is absurd. Complaining about 100-hour-long games is pointless when there are plenty of alternatives for every type of gamer. Just as I don’t have to watch poorly written Star Wars movies or listen to garbage I don’t enjoy, like Lil Wayne, we can simply choose content that aligns with our tastes. The diversity that exists in these industries tells me there really isn't that much of a problem if any at all.