FBI reviewing emails found on devices used by Weiner/Abedin
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eddievanclaylen
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Damn. All this the day after I voted for Hillary.
j/k ... i dgaf about the emails
cyberheater
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This is one of the dumbest articles I've ever read. I regret clicking.
You probably shouldn't click his name and read the rest of the articles by him then.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Probably more accurate to identify this as The Chicago Tribune's John Kass Op-ed. John Kass being notable for writing hate articles about Clinton and some on Trump as well.
My point was of the two major choices, both sides are not the same or even close. Democrats did not create the hyperpartisanship. Republicans have these past eight years obstructed more legislation than any Congress in USA history.
One side is racist, the other is not. One side is homophobic, the other not. One side understands our system is meant to be built on compromise, the other does not.
You can choose another choice. Jill Stein is a nutcase and so is Johnson, but those are your choices. That they are indisputably incapable of winning is what it is. This system was not set up to work well with more than two parties. But they are there for you.
People generally are not intellectually consistent. We are doing infinitely better than eight years ago, unemployment is low, crime is down everywhere. We have issues to fix, but i see no solution a third party has offered that could pass congress that would fix those. People see gridlock and instead of blaming the cause - Republicans - they say Washington dont work and we need another party.
But another party is not a solution to the gridlock and would not actually fix these core issues.
Hillary is a phenomenal candidate and Trump is a sociopath. Johnson might be mentally challenged, and Jill Stein is a fucking anti-vaxxer wifi truther. You can vote McMullin too if you are a masochist.
Those are your choices. Your friends problem would not be fixed even if a third party candidate won. Actually, the problems would likely get worse with a Congress made up entirely of political rivals. Least effective presidency ever most like.
Sidewinder
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#Impeachment will be trending from 2017 to 2021.
LiveFromKyoto
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Frustrated_me
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What a shit show.
Isaac Otherworld
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At the end of the day now that all the news has been processed, this was a stupid thing to send to congress / press. If it doesn't have any effect on the Clinton or Trump campaigns you're simply toying with both sides at the expense of the american public.
Orniletter
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Our media dropped the ball over and over again this US election cycle.
Pretending both sides are viable candidates, running a story about the poor Trump supporters that are too scared to show their support in public in Germany, "Clinton's pneumonia is a disaster beyond all expectations and will torpedo her campaign", running with Fox news talking points like the eMail and Clinton Foundation bullshit etc.
Just emberassing.
Lonewolf_92
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She's already on the ballot, so if the FBI found something actionable she would still be run and, assuming she won, become President. The Senate would probably move to have her impeached right after or she would resign and we'd end up with President Kaine in the White House with Speaker Paul Ryan next in line.
Likely though, these are emails already seen in this case and It'sFuckingNothing.gif
Blackthorn
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Fuck, I hope the desperation of the press to create equivalent Clinton scandals to Donald's constant sharting so they can ride out the clicks from a "tight race" doesn't backfire and get that cheese golem into power.
I think a more centrist party in Congress in decent enough numbers would actually help.
Not when the current president has proposed centrist or right-leaning legislation and it still got nowhere because the house voted along party lines against them.
The party affiliation matters more than the actual issues at this point. It's maddening.
toddhunter
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So this is nothing... it is just something because nothing else interesting is happening...right?
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Definately not the fault of this administration, as it made many gestures of compromise. But the Republicans voted obstruction.
Outsider looking in:
(1)FBI: Covering its ass just in case Trump gets there. I know some of you will lose your shit for even saying just in case.
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(2)FBI: Actually has something and is taking serious time to put together all the links so they have the strongest case they can. Announcing this again then having the peoples involved walk would not look good for the FBI at all.
The most likely scenario is...
In their investigation of the Wiener sexting scandal they found some e-mails that are related too, tangentially or otherwise, Clinton's private server and Comey saw this as an opportunity to do two things:
1) Get ahead of any "sources" who would eventually tell the press that these emails were found anyway
2) Make himself look good to partisans on a national scale
These e-mails are like rather innocuous and don't seem to actually be to or from Hillary herself. There is little chance that they have "something" and this will not end up changing the election at all.
I understand the "from a vacuum" view you have, but Comey is a staunch republican and has been getting pressure for months both internally and externally from fellow republicans because he let Clinton off with an admonishment.
I'm sure he'd love to indict Clinton, but unless they have access to more than just Wiener emails I don't see how he'd do it.
Like i said i am just an outsider looking in i do not keep myself up to date with all that goes on int the American political sphere. Even if i tried to any questions i ask would be put at the back of the que anyway.
LabouredSubterfuge
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Did they catch Ben Ghazi yet?
Mr. Giggles
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He's slippery, give them time. They'll nab him
You're using an example of the current system to explain why my proposed change wouldn't work without applying any reasoning to connect your premise to your conclusion. My proposed system does not have a single party that can control a vote.
CitizenCope
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Trumps going to win isn't he?
Nah. The real concern is how this impacts Senate and House races.
soundscream
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I cant wait for this to be over. I actually prefer the conspiracy nonsense to all the chicken littles.
Yeah, the dems did it to themselves though.
Man, no wonder economies worldwide tend to get fucked over when you have people massively jumping the gun constantly
maquiladora
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Wikileaks didn't hack shit. All they are doing in laundering emails stolen by the Russian intelligence agencies and publishing them with the veneer of deniability and a patina of journalism.
...do tell.
Yes, you're right. Adding yet another political party will revolve legislative gridlock.
Michael F. Assbender
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Should've elected Bernie Sanders. Because a guy who couldn't even appeal to enough voters to win a primary would've totally won the general.
German TV hasn't really been reliable when it comes to the US election. The exception are debates/discussions, in particular on the smaller public channels (like Phoenix).
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Yeah I think he is. I've been saying it for a long while now. There is something horribly inevitable about it.
Unless someone assassinates him before hand.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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No. Anybody's who still concerned about emails at 10 days before the election wasn't going to vote for Clinton anyways.
TestOfTide
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Agreed, but I would add the following as an extra motivator to help the democrats:
America is a two party system. It is literally ingrained in our constitution to have systems that feed into a two party system.
So for a new party to rise one of the two current ones must fall. And it can't be both at once because that is literally impossible.
So if you want a Conservative party that works across the aisle and doesn't waste time with social conservatism, you should be helping the Democrats defeat the current GOP definitively so that there is room for a saber Conservative party to rise from its ashes.
And if you want a more liberal, or even leftist, party, then you should also help the democrats defeat the GOP, because a weakened GOP will give the Democratic Party more room to move to the left, meaning more to your liking.
Otherwise you are stuck with the current system.
That just means you've been wrong for a long while now.
Unless you think there's an enormous amount of people that were ready to jump Clinton ship if they heard of one more rumor...the polls indicate otherwise. Still, vote.
WTF? I hate Trump, but come on man there you could say unlesss a very incriminating video gets leaked., and not talking about assasination.
Is incredible how this email bs can generate 22 pages on a thread, good job FBI director I guess.
CoffeeJanitor
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I don't know if it's truly relevant to this topic, but the Cubs lost yet again and are now behind in the World Series. What a miserable pile of secrets.
More than the Russians (using a stock albino villain from a movie as a cat's paw), emboldened white supremacists, an unethical media more concerned with appearing unbiased so as not to affect ratings and revenue streams, and now a partisan FBI director who's twice now demonstrated his penchant for inserting himself into the political narrative to rile up his home team?
Yeah, I guess after all that the dems did it to themselves though. You want to talk about a "rigged election," well there it is.
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