Yes, Suzuki is not a credible contender. I think that might have been the idea.
Okada has been presented far better and stronger than Roman. Not Cena level's yet but give it time.
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Yes, Suzuki is not a credible contender. I think that might have been the idea.
Okada has been presented far better and stronger than Roman. Not Cena level's yet but give it time.
UrbanDandy
Member
Who sings Suzuki's theme?
Bluekaveli
Member
New Jack?
HashtagLapsed
Member
They just went too far with it. There was something like a 10+ minute knee bar and figure four spot that was sold amazingly but led into dropkicks and dumping Suzuki onto his knee. It was a bit much. Compare to Omega vs Naito where Omega changes up his moveset, doesnt hit knee strikes with his injured knee etc. Or when he wrewtled Kushida at WK10.
It was still a tremendous and very unique match. Just went too far on a few things, I think. I really like Okada for what its worth.
On another note, I dont hate Elgin but he is starting to get go away heat with me. I cant bring myself to care about him going after the IC title with Naito. At all.
It was still a tremendous and very unique match. Just went too far on a few things, I think. I really like Okada for what its worth.
On another note, I dont hate Elgin but he is starting to get go away heat with me. I cant bring myself to care about him going after the IC title with Naito. At all.
When New Jack is mentioned, I will never not thinking of him smacking his head against the ground and seemingly dying at that one ECW PPV.
Edit:
There it is. Horrifying.
TarpitCarnivore
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I grabbed it from Archive.org so I would not be surprised if it was originally in GIF format
UrbanDandy
Member
This is a good cover
SallyIsNow
Banned
Only saw the black towel while scrolling by.
I just remembered how fantastic Great Khali's theme was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRL1SPLGSTk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRL1SPLGSTk
HazySaiyan
Banned
So I'm guessing opinion is split on Okada vs Suzuki? 
How was the rest of the show?
How was the rest of the show?
UrbanDandy
Member
juice looked great, that match was worth the meh main event
It wasn't bad, Juice vs Goto was match of the night, really really good shitSo I'm guessing opinion is split on Okada vs Suzuki?
How was the rest of the show?
Reneledarker
Banned
"Fighting spirit" and submissions never look credible. If you are in a slug fest -punches, kicks, head-buts, knees elbows- it looks good, but if 3/4 of the match are spend working on the leg and it is just no sold in the end it makes the individual that worked the leg look like a weak loser.
excelsiorlef
Member
I'm super into working the body hard matches when said body part factors into the finish of the match... which it did not here
HazySaiyan
Banned
Think I'll check out the Goto/Juice match, cheers. Thought the Osaka show looked stronger on paper anyway
Fighting spirit is not necessarily a bad thing of course, but that shit was just too much, fucking 10+ min submission holds only for him to get up and use his badly injured knee to hit his moves like nothing had happened *
*except when running which I guess is enough to be considered great storytelling now
*except when running which I guess is enough to be considered great storytelling now
excelsiorlef
Member
And the running sell happened exactly once, before and after that he had no problem.
Okada
No selling?
Almost all of his offense last night should have been affected by his fucked up knee. He was dropkicking without problem, lifting and deadlifting with no problem. Hell one of his big come back moved was Okada literally lifting Suzuki up and dropping his head hard on his fucked up knee with no problem and basically no selling after the fact...
Last night was 5 times more Super Cena than peak Super Cena
They'd have been better off booking the "knee injury" to happen within the match. Overcoming that is less of a suspension of disbelief than having your knee destroyed prior to the match, going in with an already fucked knee to the point of having it taped and then surviving 40 minutes of work on it, only to be able to do ridiculous feats of strength and basically have it not impact your offense at all.
I don't have a problem with fighting spirit. In fact I love the idea that part of what makes it so unique is these guys have massive egos, and intentionally trading blows is a kayfabe characteristic of these super macho tough guys. Giving the opponent the chance to take their best shots in an attempt to withstand it is always cool to me.
What isn't cool is being trapped for well over ten minutes in a submission on an already injured knee after it has been worked over for half an hour and miraculously no selling. The collapse at the attempted rope run should have been the first sign that Okadas leg was completely fucked but it was a brilliant sell that was completely made pointless later.
And this from someonew who has barely started paying attention to the company
What isn't cool is being trapped for well over ten minutes in a submission on an already injured knee after it has been worked over for half an hour and miraculously no selling. The collapse at the attempted rope run should have been the first sign that Okadas leg was completely fucked but it was a brilliant sell that was completely made pointless later.
And this from someonew who has barely started paying attention to the company
Just finished the main event. Okada did plenty of selling. He did forget to sell in some spots but still better than most.
That being said, the wrong guy won. Was Suzuki's time. Okada could've won it right back at Sakura Genesis and Suzuki-gun could still seem credible, but now it makes Suzuki-gun immediately seem weak.
I heard Okada saying Tiger Mask W a lot in the post match promo. I'd lol if he feuds with Ibushi and Ibushi stays being Tiger Mask the whole time.
That being said, the wrong guy won. Was Suzuki's time. Okada could've won it right back at Sakura Genesis and Suzuki-gun could still seem credible, but now it makes Suzuki-gun immediately seem weak.
I heard Okada saying Tiger Mask W a lot in the post match promo. I'd lol if he feuds with Ibushi and Ibushi stays being Tiger Mask the whole time.
excelsiorlef
Member
Okada sold when it didn't matter. In between spots and such. When it came time for it to really matter the knee was miraculously fine
It all depends for me. I like how the WK Hiromu/Kushida match went since Kushida's sub was rarely ever fully sunk in in that match. It was a real struggle. Compare that to the Dunn/Bate match where the sub was fully applied almost the entire time. Okada/Suzuki took that to the nth degree. I don't think it was a medoicre match though. It had real heat and picked up when Suzuki started really throwing hands.
The sudden no-selling doesn't bother me as much since I rarely get invested in those angles in the first place. I see it like Spiderman and web fluid. Or like superhero carnage and innocent bystanders. It doesn't have any influence until it suddenly does. It's just how it is in wrestling. They sell just enough to tell the story and then throw it away when they need to properly execute something.
IT'S FAKE!
Yeah that was garbage selling by Okada earlier today. He can still win with the rainmaker in the end, but it was the other moves where he was just putting weight on the worked leg like it was nothing that really took me out of the match.
He did a GREAT sell when Suzuki irish whipped him and he just dropped like a sack of potatoes. That was great. But it wasn't enough.
He did a GREAT sell when Suzuki irish whipped him and he just dropped like a sack of potatoes. That was great. But it wasn't enough.
British Monsoon
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It's one thing to disagree mate, it's another to laugh at someone for enjoying something. Especially in a pro fucking wrestling thread, of all places.
Pikma makes a career of mocking everything while never taking the minute risk of actually showing he enjoys something. But he's a Devils and Stars fan. What could we possibly expect?
Bluekaveli
Member
Are you two gonna fight? If so, we need to place bets before hand.
Relax, I always mess around with Heromark like that
Like how I always give him shit for liking Juice Robinson but I do actually enjoy the matches he's had as of late
Hey I see you having fun there.
Stop it.
Don't you know we are supposed to be misserable?
Happiness will expose the business
FlammableD
Banned
My money's on Boots, he must have a decent Lariat.
Watching ICW's (most recent?) London show with Jimmy Havoc on commentary, very dry, enjoying him.
Watching ICW's (most recent?) London show with Jimmy Havoc on commentary, very dry, enjoying him.
Devils? Stars? Are you trying to break kayfabe? Because I have no idea what you're talking about
Each Okada main event should be zero minutes, zero seconds long because he doesn't belong in the main event, not while Ishii is there.
SallyIsNow
Banned
Dato record yourself watching Big Baby Elgin beating Naito next week plz
Current product isnt worth watching live