He's a solid B+.
It's what Dave Meltzer called him when he started to get that main event push.
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He's a solid B+.
It's what Dave Meltzer called him when he started to get that main event push.
Violence Jack
Member
LU had a great finish
I really hope it's Mil vs. Puma vs. Pentegon for the title.
It's amazing that through 4 episodes, I've yet to see a bad or boring match out of LU this season.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The Macho Man, obviously.
Probably if we're just talking prime, which I guess would be the fairest thing to do. Or should we consider an entire career? I dunno.
Anyway, I'm just mentioning that because I'm reeeally not enjoying him in WCW.
The biggest thing right now that irks me is the usual Diva/Womens thing. There are plenty of women on NXT right now who come across as actual wrestlers who happen to be female, and to me one of the biggest disrespects is wrapping it all up under the grand "Diva" moniker.
When I was watching NXT last night with the lady I couldn't help but remark how much of a "wrestler" Asuka comes off as. From her entrance to the way she works, she legit comes off as a wrestler and not just a girl there to fill a requisite "diva match". Her mannerisms are and crowd interactions are exactly to the style that a dude would have respective of his gender.
out of the blue rant
When I was watching NXT last night with the lady I couldn't help but remark how much of a "wrestler" Asuka comes off as. From her entrance to the way she works, she legit comes off as a wrestler and not just a girl there to fill a requisite "diva match". Her mannerisms are and crowd interactions are exactly to the style that a dude would have respective of his gender.
out of the blue rant
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The most overrated wrestler of all time is still the Ultimate Warrior. He's worse at everything than Triple H and he wasn't questionably over, he was definitely over as fuck despite being horrible at everything and his promos making less sense than your average Bray Wyatt rant.
I expect it to end once Total Divas is gone. Notably, almost none of the currently featured female wrestlers are on Total Divas anymore with Brie retiring, Nikki's career in jeopardy and Eva Marie floundering around NXT.
I expect it to end once Total Divas is gone. Notably, almost none of the currently featured female wrestlers are on Total Divas anymore with Brie retiring, Nikki's career in jeopardy and Eva Marie floundering around NXT.
Serpentine
Banned
Stephen Amell is gonna squash Stardust at Fastlane, and then set his sights on the Undertaker
I'm always okay with such ranting.
I don't know what you're saying here. Just that The AAAAAHHHHHHLLLLLtimate Warrior was worse than Triple H? Overall, probably. But Warrior's look/charisma was through the roof. Are you saying Triple H had a better look and/or more charisma than Warrior?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The Meltz's scoop is just way too vague for me to buy into it meaning anything or being legit. The only person that even makes a lick of sense by that criteria is the Rock and I would be completely flabbergasted to see the Rock wrestling at WM32.
I *really* do not want to be worried about Sting being killed in the ring or paralyzed for life at Wrestlemania.
I *really* do not want to be worried about Sting being killed in the ring or paralyzed for life at Wrestlemania.
Hogan knew how to work a crowd, unlike a lot of so-called 'great' wrestlers today. Enough of that.
You can search and find half a dozen Kane returns where he gets massive pops. Tons of dudes were over, and for obvious reasons. The shows weren't going through the motions like today's product.
shanafan
Member
Not sure why, but that wasn't my comment you are linking.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
"The Rock isn't allowed to wrestle due to movie insurance stuff" is one of those completely unsubstantiated rumors people just keep stating as a fact even though its based on absolutely nothing, particularly given that the Rock specifically fired his previous agents because they repeatedly advised him not to do anything associated with wrestling and then he went on to work a handful of events as a wrestler after that.
The issue with Meltz's scoop is that pretty much everyone involved is implausible as hell, e.g. the list of people who could plausibly work this match at WM is pretty short and gets shorter when you construe "plausibly" to mean "not a risk to die in the ring":
Kurt Angle
The Rock
SCSA
Goldberg
Batista
Sting
All of them just seem really unlikely to me, particularly when you consider that Stone Cold Steve Austin is higher on the list than a couple of other people.
The issue with Meltz's scoop is that pretty much everyone involved is implausible as hell, e.g. the list of people who could plausibly work this match at WM is pretty short and gets shorter when you construe "plausibly" to mean "not a risk to die in the ring":
Kurt Angle
The Rock
SCSA
Goldberg
Batista
Sting
All of them just seem really unlikely to me, particularly when you consider that Stone Cold Steve Austin is higher on the list than a couple of other people.
ThreePiMatt
Member
I've been waiting for the Wolfpac to debut.
How in any way is The Ultimate Warrior overrated as a wrestler when everybody has said he sucks at basically everything but his entrance/music/look?
I copied and pasted his comment, that was my mix up.
Serpentine
Banned
it's gonna be CM Punk guys
shoot MMA match
shoot MMA match
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
HHH is underrated, not overrated. He's the Watch Dogs of wrestling. People shit on him for no logical reason and conveniently ignore all the great things he does.
Or maybe just the Ubisoft of wrestling would fit better? Either way, Watch Dogs/Ubisoft/HHH are underrated.
Or maybe just the Ubisoft of wrestling would fit better? Either way, Watch Dogs/Ubisoft/HHH are underrated.
funkystudent
Member
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
You are confusing "things I read on WrassleGAF and r/squaredcircle" with "everybody." The Ultimate Warrior is in the hall of fame and was unquestionably one of the most over guys of his era.
Violence Jack
Member
Taker vs. Goldberg. Calling it now.
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
Now X-Pac, there's a guy that got way further than he deserved to get. The dude was pure shite.
If Dana could trade Punk for Brock or even fucking Del Rio he'd do it.
Punk isn't going to draw dana any extra buys.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The thing is, can you really be ready to work a match at Wrestlemania in that kind of notice? Goldberg is a 50 year old man that hasn't wrestled in a decade and hasn't shown a lick of interest in doing so.
I'm not saying he's anything-rated. I'm saying, one guy to another, that Triple H sure wasn't great. In a wrestling ring. In my opinion. Through early 1998. For sure.
I'll keep an open mind going forward, like I do with all of these schmucks. If I had a nickel for every time I thought "maybe this will be a decent Crush match..."
Who has said he wasn't a bad worker? Many wrestlers said as much. Even so, when people list the greatest performers, he isn't among them. But he was a huge favorite for fans growing up because of his tenacity and entrance. Moveset was simplistic but it worked. That's all he needed. Wrestling isn't about workrate. Goldberg is the same way, but it doesn't matter.
As for the Hall of Fame, Koko B. Ware is in it. It's not an indictment of anything.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Violence Jack
Member
If Vince throws him a good chunk of change, I'm betting he'll take a match against Taker despite his lack of interest. I doubt it would be Angle, and the only other person I can think of is The Rock.
Perspicacity
Banned
They're all Women wrestlers. The fact that you have to segregate and categorize them based on some arbitrary criteria sounds like your own weird hang-up, where you think you're praising Asuka you're actually diminishing the efforts of the entire rest of the roster.
Don't get me wrong, I think it's great that you can finally appreciate a woman wrestler on a different level for her talents, but most people have already progressed to this point.
Goldberg has expressed interest in working with the WWE in a match before a few times over the years
Bret Hart Scale
Look: 3
Promo: 2
In-ring: 8
Overall: 13
I'd say single digits is shite-tier, personally. Here, let's do the aforementioned Crush:
Bret Hart Scale
Look: 3
Promo: 1
In-ring: 1
Overall: 5
Checks out.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Non active wrestler?
He already said this is just the plan in case Cena isn't able to come back, and judging by John's tweet we'll know if he is or isn't in 2 weeks
Imagine getting a big plan in store and then scrapping it because Cena comes back early again. This company will never change, and frankly it doesn't matter who's running it *insert HHHFebChamp2000And2016.jpg here*
Did you give me Taylor Swift recommendations, Persnickety? I made a formal request.
He was training recently for a Kickboxing fight.
He was at that City Field show that people like Bret and Scott Steiner was at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4cTH3gvnoY
IIRC there have been reports of him wanting to wrestle because his son is older but the price has to be right.
Its why he never wrestled in TNA or Japan.
My mistake, I thought it was Groundhog Day again.