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February Wrasslin' |OT| WrassleGAF. In 2016.
- Thread starter FallingEdge
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I'd say the in-ring has potential to be excellent, but hasn't exactly reached it yet.
I only watch highlights every couple of weeks and follow the rest in this thread. Fuck actually watching RAW. I hate myself but not that much.
Work rate has been excellent. Storytelling has been steaming dog shit, up until things heated up for a couple angles this past Monday.
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Deleted member 47027
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What more do you want? Kevin Owens is wrestling. Neville. Stardust. Brock Lesnar. The New Day. The Dudleys. Sheamus. Rusev. Until recently, Cena. There's very little that's lacking. You can't find much better talent elsewhere, unless you're someone who enjoys a particular niche that's catered to, such as grapplefuck.
Best way to do it. Watch what's notable. The storytelling is where I feel WWE lacks, but definitely not in-ring.
Many people here would see their quality of life improve if they just LET GO
Looking at you, OfficerRob
Depends entirely on how much of Shane's speech on Monday was worked.
There has always been doubt on Triple H taking over for Vince given how they need to convince the shareholders and board that he and Steph are fit for the CEO job. That's why they have Steph do all those internships in Asia and what not. It's very possible that the whole reason Shane left WWE and went to be an actual CEO of his own company (and fairly succesful, as well) was an intentional move to make him seem more valid as a CEO.
That way, Shane can run the business. Stephanie can run the PR. And Trips can produce the talent and TV.
Think about it.
Shane McMahon leaves in 2009.
In 2011, CM Punk said that he likes to think WWE will be better when Vince McMahon is dead, but his idiot daughter and doofus son-in-law would just take over.
In 2014, CM Punk leaves, sits down for an interview on a fat guy's podcast, complains he never was in the main event of Wrestlemania.
Shane McMahon returns, needs to fight Undertaker in what will main event (or co-main event) Wrestlemania to take over WWE Raw. Shane McMahon will need a champion.
Follow the money, friends.
Shane McMahon leaves in 2009.
In 2011, CM Punk said that he likes to think WWE will be better when Vince McMahon is dead, but his idiot daughter and doofus son-in-law would just take over.
In 2014, CM Punk leaves, sits down for an interview on a fat guy's podcast, complains he never was in the main event of Wrestlemania.
Shane McMahon returns, needs to fight Undertaker in what will main event (or co-main event) Wrestlemania to take over WWE Raw. Shane McMahon will need a champion.
Follow the money, friends.
I'd like a few more of these guys to be in the main event scene? The main event picture right now (at least for full-timers) consists purely of Roman and Ambrose, who both aren't that great in the ring. Okay, Roman isn't bad, but he's got a bad case of the Cena no-sell problem.
Brian_FETO
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And what better way to impress the shareholders than by DIVING OFF THE TOP OF HELL IN A CELL
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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In the latest observer Meltzer wrote that shane wanted to buy ECW and keep Heyman as the booker
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Deleted member 47027
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Why does it matter if they're in the main event or not, except from a storyline perspective? Val Venis and D'Lo Brown made it work in an opening match. Johnny B Badd and Brian Pillman tore the house down in an opener. Mr. Perfect was always a midcard guy. It doesn't diminish them! I promise!
Ninja Scooter
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Buff Bagwell?
You're not wrong! I guess I just wish the main event scene better compared to what the mid card has.
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Maybe it's because I'm a WCW Survivor who loved their midcard, but that's where the best stuff almost always is. We were in a unique space with Cena, Lesnar, and Rollins last year because the main events were hot fuckin' fire.
The midcard is not unlike college football. Some people have no prayer at ever winning a game, others bring EVERYTHING they have into it and are there for a reason, wanting to put on the best match they can.
That's my ideal scenario as well.
Oh man. I really hope that he's interested in getting involved again.
WCW? Midcard? College football?
You're hitting all my favorite buzzwords, NeoGAF Vince McMahon.
You see, Roman Reigns is like the pepperoni on the pizza.
HOLLER IF YA HERE ME
HULK KOGAN. GET YOUR RACIS' BALD ASS BACK TO THE WWWE, SO I CANS FUCK YOU UP AND THEN FUCKS YOUR LOVED ONES. YOU KNO YOU AFRAID OF THE BIG POPPA PUMP FREAKZILLA.
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Anyone excited for Pokemon Hollywood and Pokemom Wolfpac
TarpitCarnivore
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WCW midcard during the monday night wars was SO FUCKING GOOD. holy shit
Bluekaveli
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You're a very weird creature Zach, everyone knows that X Pac is the best reincarnation of Sean Waltman. Until he gets the microphone. He's one of those guys whose voice doesn't match their appearance lol!
But I'm annoyed because they've been waking me up since 6 every ten minutes. Let me sleep. I'm trying to ignore the pain lol. They're good people but let me rest.
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It absolutely was. Scott Norton. Curt Hennig. Eddie Guerrero. Booker T. Dean Malenko. ALL the cruiserweights. ALL the luchadors. Saturn. Raven. The whole Flock except Reese since he was EXTRA GARBAGE. Kanyon. Jericho. Goldberg as he was building the streak. Alex Wright. Meng! And many more.
"...make some noise."
X-pac in the ring was damn good for large periods of time. Until he formed X Factor and decided he was really a martial arts expert.
Sibersk Esto
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I just want to feel like what I'm watching on the screen is building to something, or is the result or something. I'm tired of sitting around watching thrown together exhibition matches that are more often than not, rematches.
You know who is literally (get out of my head, Schiavoneeeee!) the best? Kanyon. He actually hasn't been Kanyon long where I'm at -- and I liked Mortis a lot, too, even though he always lost -- but I love Kanyon. One of the few non-cruiserweight mid-carders who was awesome.
His mic work is the worst thing ever. It's like the Wolfpac-trying-to-be-hip schtick turned up to 11.
But they want to have fun out there and entertain you!
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The Innovator of Offense himself. Kanyon was absolutely wonderful.
Who's better than Kanyon?
Bluekaveli
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I'm still dying at when it was Davey Boy, Shawn, and himself snd they said he was throwing worked karate kicks lmfao!
Even Kane with that damn voice box was better than him lol. Dude was trash.
Dark Ninja
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CM Punk saving Wrestlemania from his couch... AGAIN!
I wouldn't respect or shake someone's hand who hasn't jumped or fallen 20 feet.
Host Samurai
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The in ring has been terrible imo. So choreographed, which is a shame because I think it can be so much better. I'd rather blame current WWE style than blame the performers. Watching just looks too telegraphed these days. Like they're not even trying to win or even taking hard bumps. Watch a random match from the 80's or 90's and it's a different world.
There's not a lot of logic to anything they do. Shit just happens. Kalisto beating the 10 count on Sunday against Del Rio. On the floor, thriving in pain, can barely move. Ref hits 9, Kalisto spingboards into the ring like a rabbit before going back to selling death.
Dick Justice
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Those ropes could give Shooter McGavin a run for his money (seriously though, he's lucky he didn't end up like Perro Aguayo Jr).
You just worked yourself into a shoot.
Dark Ninja
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Depends on the performer, some of them GET IT. Others like Ziggler take it to far and fuck it up with flippy floppy noodle movements.
Bluekaveli
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Wait, what mate?Think about it.
Shane McMahon leaves in 2009.
In 2011, CM Punk said that he likes to think WWE will be better when Vince McMahon is dead, but his idiot daughter and doofus son-in-law would just take over.
In 2014, CM Punk leaves, sits down for an interview on a fat guy's podcast, complains he never was in the main event of Wrestlemania.
Shane McMahon returns, needs to fight Undertaker in what will main event (or co-main event) Wrestlemania to take over WWE Raw. Shane McMahon will need a champion.
Follow the money, friends.
The biggest issue, I think, is that wrasslin' these days doesn't seem to go where the crowd wants it to go. I mean, strict adherence to the way a match is laid out can be bad, right? Sometimes it works fine, sure, but sometimes you have to come up with stuff on the fly. My understanding is that that doesn't really happen anymore -- and it shows.
But I guess that's a criticism for WWE as a whole. Very little is organic.
Bluekaveli
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So apparently Reigns' injury was an existing one.
Dick Justice
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First things first, everyone needs to stop doing fucking superkicks.
Humus is great. Low on the Glycemic index.
Bluekaveli
Member
This, big time. Jeez do something else.
Bring back the atomic drop.
Bluekaveli
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Also the tear drop suplex, t-bone, Tiger bombs, etc.
When was the last time someone did a bog-standard vertical suplex? Or a power slam?
#wcwsaturdaynight