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February Wrasslin' |OT2| Welcome To The New Era (Beta Version 1.0)

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jobber

Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
Rumble value has been shit for years. The last time they did classic babyface Rumble/WM main event (last match) build is sadly last year with Cena. Before that was way back to WM21 with Batista. They thought they can do it with Bootista but we all see how that's working out. Bryan needs to be in the main event to have a happy ending. Orton winning over a heel bootista won't do shit. You'll fool the kids and shit but the marks are going to eat them alive. Good luck turning Orton with Chicago up next and NYC soon after. With that said RAW next week sounds pretty damn good.

From putting all the pieces together and I could be totally wrong or I could've been tipped by a jewish dirtsheet writer...

-Batista was promised he'd win the Rumble to get him to sign

-Batista was going to go after the WHC which was the Smackdown title back when he signed. He would be the champ going into the fall so whatever network Smackdown would be on would have star power and what better star to help boost ratings on the B show than a guy who would be in one of the top grossing films of the year

-They started the D Bry build to the WWE title back in October. He was going to overcome the odds to earn a title shot at Mania.

THEN THEY MERGED THE TITLES for some unknown reason only Vince could tell you.

-the DBry plan had to be put on hold because of the promise to Batista so they wanted to keep DBry busy with the Wyatts by joining them. It wasn't planned out correctly as I assume creative only had a couple of weeks to find something for him. It happened right around the time they announced the title merger.

The original plan was for DBry to turn on the Wyatts at Mania so he wouldn't have a title match. Then they could re-build DBry's Wrestlemania push in the summer.


Clues: There has been a ton of plot holes since Bray randomly attacked D Bry which were never explained.
 

Pavaloo

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Wait... I have the perfect solution.
How about they leave both Orton and Big Dave as heels... and... get this... add The Big Show to the main event so we'll have someone to cheer?

You like it, right? I knew you would.

Ummm I think that's one of those ideas that's really so bad it's good. I WANT THIS
 

strobogo

Banned
From putting all the pieces together and I could be totally wrong or I could've been tipped by a jewish dirtsheet writer...

-Batista was promised he'd win the Rumble to get him to sign

-Batista was going to go after the WHC which was the Smackdown title back when he signed. He would be the champ going into the fall so whatever network Smackdown would be on would have star power and what better star to help boost ratings on the B show than a guy who would be in one of the top grossing films of the year

-They started the D Bry build to the WWE title back in October. He was going to overcome the odds to earn a title shot at Mania.

THEN THEY MERGED THE TITLES for some unknown reason only Vince could tell you.

-the DBry plan had to be put on hold because of the promise to Batista so they wanted to keep DBry busy with the Wyatts by joining them. It wasn't planned out correctly as I assume creative only had a couple of weeks to find something for him. It happened right around the time they announced the title merger.

The original plan was for DBry to turn on the Wyatts at Mania so he wouldn't have a title match. Then they could re-build DBry's Wrestlemania push in the summer.


Clues: There has been a ton of plot holes since Bray randomly attacked D Bry which were never explained.


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jobber

Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
The height of the brand split was one of my favorite WWE periods, why they got rid of it is beyond me

I loved it too. They actually had time to build storylines and if one brand had a ppv, you'd get a ppv quality match on the other show for free.

then again...the downside is you get gimmicks like The Dicks
 

Edgeward

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Merging the titles should have been a bigger deal, possibly a WM event or a ppv dedicated to it. The way they just decided to have it without the build up it deserved was shitty.
 

UberTag

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I still don't even understand the point of merging the titles right now. They were barely making it by on the 2.
The merger would have been fine if they bothered to elevate the other mid-card titles into something of value.
But they didn't do that now, did they?
 

jobber

Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
Vince never thinks these title mergers out. If this was in the works for a while, they would have a new belt ready.

I would say it could've been a loophole that Orton had to defend both titles in 2 separate matches... but Triple H said we would never see both of those titles again during the build to TLC..that was 2 months ago... and we still see both titles on tv.
 

antonz

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The Royal Rumble lost any real meaning and purpose it had years ago. It was to be the event you used to push a guy who was ready for the next level of stardom. He would win the rumble and make that jump to the next level of stardom.

Now its just another random event that's a convenient way to half ass someone into the title picture with no buildup. The WWE has all but abandoned the old idea of using these events to build stars.
 

Edgeward

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Jst like how the IC was a stepping stone and usually the first step that a guy was earning his way to the main event. Now it's an accessory for any newcomer they want to push til they get bored and give up
 

strobogo

Banned
Vince never thinks these title mergers out. If this was in the works for a while, they would have a new belt ready.

I would say it could've been a loophole that Orton had to defend both titles in 2 separate matches... but Triple H said we would never see both of those titles again during the build to TLC..that was 2 months ago... and we still see both titles on tv.

It took 4ish months for a new title to be made after they unified in 2001. Considering the current WWE Championship is barely a year old, I'm sure they would just drop the WHC instead. But if you have both, then you can sell toys of both.
 

Joeki11a

Banned
Vince never thinks these title mergers out. If this was in the works for a while, they would have a new belt ready.

I would say it could've been a loophole that Orton had to defend both titles in 2 separate matches... but Triple H said we would never see both of those titles again during the build to TLC..that was 2 months ago... and we still see both titles on tv.

Pretty sure a new undisputed title is being designed for Raw after WM, when GM Joker Sting has it delivered by a Bird.
 
Merging the titles was halfbaked to get a shitty champ vs champ match.

Made no sense to begin with.

Add the fact that the US title rarely gets defended and the IC is on the can that is big e.

I want to see the TV title come back
 

antonz

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Merging the titles was halfbaked to get a shitty champ vs champ match.

Made no sense to begin with.

Add the fact that the US title rarely gets defended and the IC is on the can that is big e.

I want to see TV title comeback

Big E could be so much more if they wouldn't hold him back like they have personality wise etc. which is funny because they have him do his 5 count gimmick on the WWE Network little video ads etc. but don't let him be that character in the ring.
 
Anybody here pick up Lords of Shadow 2?

Game is pretty sweet, no idea why it got hammered in the reviews. I only finished the first castle section, and it was mostly exposition and tutorials so far, but it definitely gets better as you go along. Pretty hyped to dig into it whenever I get the time.
 
Anybody here pick up Lords of Shadow 2?

Game is pretty sweet, no idea why it got hammered in the reviews. I only finished the first castle section, and it was mostly exposition and tutorials so far, but it definitely gets better as you go along. Pretty hyped to dig into it whenever I get the time.

Never trust video game reviews ver. 87655432234
 

strobogo

Banned
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The first official review via The Network!


Great American Bash 1988


Sting/Nikita Koloff vs Arn Anderson/Tully Blanchard NWA World Tag Team Championships

Sounds like a pretty solid way to start the show to me. Sting is super popular, but not a top guy yet. He's right on the verge and is definitely being groomed. Nikita has turned face and supports the end of the Cold War. Things start fast and furious with the Horsemen being knocked from the ring. They tried an ambush and got their asses kicked again. Looks like Sting and Tully are officially starting. Sting nearly wins with a small package, but the ref was distracted by the brawling. Sting hits a crazy dive over the top on Arn. Then he slows it down in the ring by taking Arn to the mat and tagging in Nikita. Sting/Nikita are ironically working over Arn's arm like they were the Andersons. Arn gets Nikita backed into the corner and throws some cheap shots. This crowd is SO LOUD. It's awesome. Arn thought Nikita ran into the corner, but Nikita blocked it and hit a lariatoooo and the crowd lost their fucking minds. Sting tags in and gets a knee in the corner, but is able to counter a sleeper and get Arn grounded again. Sting back flips out of a double top wrist lock and dropkicks both heels out. Tully is finally legally in the match. He quickly gets grounded and the faces work his arm. I love Tully and Arn solo and as a team. I think both were better than Flair and Tully did Flair's gimmick better, but with a sleazier edge. Faces are using traditionally heel tag tactics, much to the frustration of JoJo Dillon. The Horsemen just can not get any momentum. Tully finally gets a tag while in a hold. Arn comes in and is pissed that Nikita let go of the hold. And he's immediately taken to the ground. It's an interestingly laid out match, with the two young muscled up power dudes surprising the shit out of Arn and Tully by basically turning their own style against them. Arn gets out of a full nelson by kicking Nikita's knee. Tully looks pissed with Nikita tonight. Both men go over the ropes on a lariatoo. It was ruled an accident and the match continues. JoJo broke a pin. Nikita went after him and ended up giving the ring post a Russian Sickle. Arn then basically powerslammed him into the same post. The Horsemen finally get to do their limb based offense. Nikita Hulks Up only to get drilled with a DDT. Nikita kicks out! Nikita's gear rides up about as much as Big E's or Ahmed's. Half of his ass has been out the entire match. Hot tag to Sting! Press slams, drop kicks, back drops. Face buster. It slows back down. With 1 minute left in the time limit, Sting locks on a sleeper. Tully turns it into a sunset flip, but Sting holds on. The time limit expires while Sting has Tully in the Scorpion Death Lock. The match is a draw. Titles retained.

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Tony and JR run down part of the card when the fight continues. Lol, Tony's mustache is so gross and 80s.

The Fantastics vs The Midnight Express NWA US Tag Team Championships

I liked Tommy Rogers a lot in the couple of matches he was in on the Memphis stuff. Happy to see him again. Cornette will be put in a straight jacket AND shark cage above the ring for the match. If the Fantastics win, they will get to whip Cornette 10 times. Fulton and Eaton start out. Some lighting troubles. Eaton gets the advantage, but Fulton comes back with a spinning head scissors and a rana. Stan is tagged in and does his "karate" kicks. I really have doubts that he ever learned any kind of karate. Fulton sends him to the floor and tags out to Rogers. He slows the pace down and takes Bobby to the mat. Bobby comes right back with a kitchen sink. Weird name for that move. I never understood it. Some quick 80s cruiser kind of spots. Double back drops from the Fantastics. They also somehow get Stan to back drop Bobby and then do the Fargo Strut. Bobby comes OUTTA NOWHERE with a bulldog while Rodgers had a pin on Stan. Drilled him with it. Bobby hits his sweet back breaker and the Midnights are in firm control. Tiltawhirl backbreaker from Bobby. Rogers sends Eaton into the ring post, but Stan is still in control in the ring. Alabama Jam from Eaton! Tommy gets his knees up on the Rocket Launcher. Hot tag to Fulton. It doesn't last long for him as he's slammed on the floor. Ref bump. Eaton punches Fulton with a chain around his fist. New champions! And they did it all on their own! WOOOO! Corny got whipped after the match because these faces are sore losers.

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Ronnie Garvin/Jimmy Garvin/Road Warriors/Steve Williams vs Kevin Sullivan/Mike Rotunda/Al Perez/Russian Assassin/Ivan Koloff TOWER OF DOOM

The Tower of Doom is the three tiered cage that would be reused for Ready to Rumble, Slamboree 2000, and Russo's Revenge. It was actually used first in WCCW. The rules for this are even dumber than those matches. Every 5 minutes, all the doors unlock and one member of each team will get sent in. They will then have to work their way DOWN to the ring, where Precious holds the key to the door. The first team to have all members out of the bottom cage will win the match. Fucking stupid. That's some Russo shit if I've ever seen it. It takes forever to get started as Tommy Young is apparently terrified of heights and the doors are controlled by a crank that might not work. And the wrestlers don't climb up through the ring, they climb up on giant ladders on the outside. Wait, I guess the wrestlers come in every 2 minutes, but the doors open every 5 minutes. Or maybe the door is open for 5 minutes? Apparently not, as Ron Garvin made it to the second cage and closed the trap door, so it stayed closed. Ron Garvin makes it out of the bottom cage. This is terrible. The best part is the occasional shots of Precious with her tits way out. This had to be a Dusty idea. I wonder if the WCCW version had the same rules. It makes more sense to have something in the top cage. What kind of story or movie has someone fighting their way to the bottom of a tower? Especially one of DOOM? This thing looks so unsafe. The cage itself has a lot of support and cables/pulleys/braces, but it is shaky as fuck and the GIANT ladders are just leaning on the structure with camera men standing on one rung and part of the cage with no protection of any kind. And guys are getting thrown into parts where the ladders are leaning on. It came down to Jimmy Garvin and Kevin Sullivan. Jimmy was half way out and Sullivan shoved him out. So Garvin's team won. But then Sullivan locked the cage so he could rape Precious or something. Now the faces have to climb to the top and go through the trap doors again to save her. WHAT THE FUCK Sullivan grabs a rope and starts choking Precious. Jeeeezus Christ. That's pretty fucked up. Hawk and Jimmy save her and she didn't get choked to death or raped. So there's that.

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TO THE CAUDLE. Bob Caudle talks about the match we just saw. A lot of down time to get the cages taken away.

Barry Windham vs Dusty Rhodes NWA US Championship

Barry is a member of the Four Horsemen, but was first a protege of Dusty Rhodes. It's a very personal affair in this match. More lighting problems. Dusty uses his size and experience to win the opening exchanged by hitting a huge shoulder block that sent Barry to the floor. Back in the ring, Dusty does a press slam. DDT. Top rope cross body from Dusty Rhodes! Flip flop and fly! JoJo gets an elbow. Barry is able to slow the match down and get in control of Dusty on the floor. He attempted a piledriver, but Dusty back dropped him and hit a lariatoooo. However, Barry gets back in control in the ring. Back to the floor momentarily. Barry gets brought OUT the hard way. JoJo distracts Dusty. THE CLAW! Dusty fights up to his feet, but can't stay up for long. He finally gets up to the second rope to break the leverage, but falls before he can drop an elbow. He eventually starts throwing 'bos and breaks the hold, but Barry gets it right back on. An era where two guys can work a claw for 7 minutes and the fans buy it is long gone. Dusty breaks it, but there was a ref bump. He misses an elbow drop, but is able to body slam Barry from the top. Bionic elbow! But there is no ref. Ronnie Garvin comes out and punches Dusty. SWERVE! MY GAWD WHAT A SWERVE! Barry wins! Title retained.

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TO THE BACK. We see Ronnie Garvin rubbing money over himself with Gary Hart and JoJo.

Lex Luger vs Ric Flair NWA Championship

The opening lock up ends with Flair going flying. Lex smiles at some chops. He then hits a great dropkick. Press slam. The champ is in trouble. He rolls to the floor and falls over the railing into the crowd. Another press slam. Bear hug. Flair has really had no offense. Giant elbow drop. Lex misses the second one, but it didn't phase him. Flair begs off, gets hip tossed, and goes to the floor. Lex follows and gets an eye poke for his trouble. NOW, we go to school. Lex makes a brief come back, but not enough to stay in control. Flair goes up top and instead of getting press slammed, he crotches himself. Lex misses a dropkick and Flair flops. Lariatooo from Lex. Foot on the ropes. Lex fights for a sunset flip. He gets it, but only for 2. Flair now starts to attack the leg. He probably should have started that 10 minutes ago. Figure four. Lex gets out and the chops make him Hulk Up. He barely gets a press slam off before falling. He then misses a knee drop with his bad knee. Flair goes up top and gets slammed this time. 10 count punch in the corner. Atomic drop to counter, which I think Lex was supposed to block but fell, then got right up and hit a lariatoo. Flair Flip and Flop. Lex nearly wins with a backslide. Both men go over the top rope. Lex gets posted. JoJo sends him into it again while Flair has Tommy Young distracted. Lex is busted open. This just fires Lex up. The commission members/doctor is yelling for the ref. Lex puts Flair in the torture rack. The bell rings. New champion! The match was actually stopped due to blood loss. DUSTY FINISH! Flair retains the title. What's great is that Lex just has a little spot of blood on his forehead. Loud BULLSHIT chants to end the show. JR tries to cover that Maryland is extremely strict on blood loss and most states would have allowed the match to continue.

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Pretty decent show over all. Opening tag was match of the night, but the US tag was good, Dusty/Barry was decent, and young Lex was very capable of being carried. But the tower of doom was awful.


BONUS GROSS FAN:


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