spindashing
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Who will be the brave soul?NoDQ.com said:
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February Wrasslin' |OT2| Where TNA Careers Never Existed
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BoboBrazil
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No, he's pretty spot on most of the time. If you only get your news from shit reposting sites that alter or twist his words or post shit from other sources than yes you probably believe he is wrong. He is the leading authority in wrestling journalism.
I was on the right side for each of these aka majority opinion.WrassleGAF poll results:
Sibersk Esto
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pre-crazy Shamrock was so weird and nice. Vignettes showing off his 4 kids and giant Marmaduke sized dog
dream, can we get an update?
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Deleted member 47027
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I totally don't think Reigns will win at Mania. One way or another Reigns will NOT keep the belt even if he does win it - either the night of Mania or the night after, he's being relieved of it or Brock will be relieved of it.
That MITB case is there for a reason, friends. Putting Brock back into Chase Mode would be dope.
That MITB case is there for a reason, friends. Putting Brock back into Chase Mode would be dope.
BoboBrazil
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Reigns will win at Mania and then Seth will lose when he tries to cash it in. They are pushing Reigns too hard to lose.
TimeEffect
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Hey guys, who was the other person to pass out to Rusev again?
Watching an IWA-MS show that Bronson probably filmed, featuring a tournament with these goobers;
A free cookie and indie cred to anyone who can name more than four of them.
Goober, Jobber, Can and hippy.
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Snacks Swaggar.
dr3upmushroom
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That's a shoot brother.
I don't get. What would WWE win by doing that? Makes no sense when they are trying to make Roman this superman babyface.
WrassleGAF poll results:
Between this and the half naked men thing, it's good to know wrasslegaf hates women
Honestly I enjoy the idea of Brock crushing Reigns like he did Cena and him going on a general rampage until HHH gets sick of a part-timer killing his roster and begins throwing everything he has at Brock to get the title off of him.
Pre WM 28 he was booked like crap; don't think anyone thinks otherwise. WWE mostly accidentally caught lightning in a bottle with the 18 second championship loss; it made Bryan (unintentionally most likely) sympathetic. But, Bryan got legitimately over through feuding with the Shield starting near the end of 2012 and finally beat the Shield in June 2013. People forget how awesome Bryan was in the tag matches with the Shield - and that was the timing on how he got over. Team Hell No gave him something of a personality (and kept him away from being written by Vince, since apparently that's the kiss of death ala Reigns); and Bryan was awesome when working with the Shield. It wasn't just some "one and done" thing with the Shield - it was 6+ months of feuding with them when the Shield was extremely hot. Hell, they even reignited the feud with the Shield for Elimination Chamber in 2014.
Part of why Bryan has succeeded is because his character has actually been developed and changed from time to time recently - unlike most of the other current main eventers. But to say WWE didn't push Bryan to the moon right before Summerslam 2013 and then re-pushed him again in 2014 (after they realized he was still very over and Punk left) is anti-vax truther level denial going on. He beat Orton, Sheamus, Cena, HHH, Orton (again) and Batista clean in under a year (and he ended the Shield's 6 month+ long unpinned / unsubmitted streak by submitting Rollins clean in a tag match). If he beats Reigns and Lesnar...who the hell does he face as a heel that he hasn't flat out cleanly beat? You have Rollins; and that's basically about it.
The dude makes SuperCena look weak at that point.
There are things I'd pay for. Skyping is not one of them.
Although it'd be great if you paid for the skype and she turned it on and saw you and your 20 closest friends, stadium seating style.
dr3upmushroom
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Just who were the 13 that were down with that beatdown?
If God King Supreme Brock Lesnar is going to stay long after Mania, he needs a reign into the next Mania. Solidify him as greatness while all these other superstars are being built up around him but no one can knock him off the mountain.
This way, when someone finally does knock him off, they will be ready...and WWE will be better for it.
This way, when someone finally does knock him off, they will be ready...and WWE will be better for it.
Liquidsnake
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Sweeney Tom
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It'd be them trying to bail themselves out of another bad situation, like they did last year. Only problem with it is even last year when they actually did it, they tried to act like it was the plan all along, making even Variety magazine roll their eyes out of their skull.
It's best if they prove even the doubters here wrong and fully stick with Reigns. Even having him beat Rollins at the cashin. At least when they stick to their dumb guns, even the haters acknowledge it's genuine.
Kinda hard to say it's just the plan that's dumb when the main person running the company thinks it's brilliant and best.
If HHH was running WWE creative I could legitimately see them running with Brock for another full year. It would basically be the "year of hell". Vince wants Roman though.
This happened: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2hwk7x
Seth is only losing his cash-in if Brock retains.
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Totally disagree, I think Seth NEEDS to be victorious with it because he cannot beat any WWE champion in a fair fight due to the narrative they've been building. People will want to see someone finally get ahold of our precious Seth and get their title back.
If Brock retains the title they aren't going to waste Brock losing the title on a MITB cash in. If Roman wins (which I'm sure he will) then Rollins is absolutely sniping the belt from him.
You're also crazy if you think Brock isn't losing to Reigns at Mania.
I'd be almost as legit shook as I was after 21-1 if Brock beat Roman.
I think Rollins cashes in on Roman at Mania. We've still never had a MITB cash in on the big stage.
My plan would be to carry out Roman vs Brock at Mania and have Roman loose convincingly while still looking good.....good enough for Rollins to come out and try to cash in at Brock. I would also have him fail but he would come close.
Then we'd have Brock on 4 PPVs throughout the year between now and Mania. All four would be different guys trying to knock brock off. We'd do vs Bryan, vs Rusev, vs Rollins and maybe some fatal four way or triple threat at the end of the cycle. Brock will beat them all, but show wear over time.
Come Mania, you pull the trigger on whoever is most over to get another shot and have them knock off Brock.
slightconfuse
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Rollins is going to cash in on cena's US title
Sweeney Tom
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Reigns is getting a long reign likely, so either prepare for Rollins to lose his cashin or win and hold it for even less time than Dolph and Harper held gold in 2014 combined.
Face it, Papa Vince ain't having his big plan for the year ruined two years in a row. And if it happened, Bryan would be the most likely to suffer for it as vengeance for not liking what he told us to like. We're talking both "wouldn't be set free to Japan", and "wouldn't even touch the gold by ko'ing the champ and raising it up to cheers to end a Raw/SD"
Face it, Papa Vince ain't having his big plan for the year ruined two years in a row. And if it happened, Bryan would be the most likely to suffer for it as vengeance for not liking what he told us to like. We're talking both "wouldn't be set free to Japan", and "wouldn't even touch the gold by ko'ing the champ and raising it up to cheers to end a Raw/SD"
My friend, who I had over for Fastlane and has literally seen one NJPW match (I showed him Nakamura/Ibushi from WK9 a couple weeks ago) brought up how awesome Rusev would be in Japan. Dude is a transcendent talent.
Swaggah and Fellah.
Damn.
If Rollins doesn't cash in or loses it, I give Roman until SummerSlam. I fully believe Vince will expect Roman to immediately start delivering Cena level sales and drive up ratings and when Roman does neither and will see ratings dive a few weeks after Mania he will panic and pull the trigger on another Cena reign.
Lesnar beating Reigns would probably save the whole Road to Wrestlemania. Just end the show with AND THE FUTURE REFUSED TO CHANGE.
Mr. Luchador
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OK, had a read over the Fastlane OT the mix in opinion is an amazing read.
Things I enjoyed about Fastlane and the last 'Season' (WM - WM) of WWE. This is probably a bit markish, but I don't care. I find more fun in following the stories than thinking who's legit the better wrestler.
- The Rhodes Family Feud
The way they've built this up over the last 12/18 months has been great, everything from the Brothers teaming together, to Cody feeling like he's let Goldust down and saying his brother deserves a better partner leading to... Stardust.
I'll admit now I wasn't much into Cody Rhodes before Stardust, but I'm a big fan now. I'm a total mark for any wrestler who'll go 100% into their character, so to see the Stardust character grow has been amazing. I'm totally buying in to Stardust taking over from Cody Rhodes and the way that sort of shadows Goldust's past is great. So, it's good to see Goldust warn Cody about the dangers ahead.
I wasn't too sure about bring Dusty into it, but I think it's working well. It's one of those stories that crosses generations and has plenty of backstory for long term wrestling fans to appreciate.
I wasn't too sure about the ending (was it botched?) on the PPV but the story has been totally hooked and look forward to see how it develops and ends.
- Rusev
To think Rusev made his 'debut' at the 2014 Royal Rumble and this Raw debut the following April, it's been one hell of a year for the Russian. He's another one that is totally into his character and I love it. I guess not being American means a bit of his gimmick is 'lost' on me, since he's not pissing on my Country or it's heroes, but he does it so well and the reactions he gets are great.
What I like even more are HIS reactions. He doesn't ignore them, he reacts to the crowd shouting his angry Russian/English. Even last night when the crowd were chanting for Jerry Lawler, he reacted to that by shouting at Jerry Lawler (just a shame the commentary totally ignored it). Again, I'm a total mark for any wrestler who interacts with the crowd and plays off their reactions - think of the best wrestlers and they all did this. Hogan, Flair, Owen Hart, Stone Cold, The Rock, etc
There's probably more I've missed and can't remember instantly off the top of my head (which is probably saying something), but I think I'll do another 'What I liked' after Wrestlemania for a true 'Season Review' as I know there's more, but Rusev and The Rhodes Family are my two favourite things about WWE right now.
Things I enjoyed about Fastlane and the last 'Season' (WM - WM) of WWE. This is probably a bit markish, but I don't care. I find more fun in following the stories than thinking who's legit the better wrestler.
- The Rhodes Family Feud
The way they've built this up over the last 12/18 months has been great, everything from the Brothers teaming together, to Cody feeling like he's let Goldust down and saying his brother deserves a better partner leading to... Stardust.
I'll admit now I wasn't much into Cody Rhodes before Stardust, but I'm a big fan now. I'm a total mark for any wrestler who'll go 100% into their character, so to see the Stardust character grow has been amazing. I'm totally buying in to Stardust taking over from Cody Rhodes and the way that sort of shadows Goldust's past is great. So, it's good to see Goldust warn Cody about the dangers ahead.
I wasn't too sure about bring Dusty into it, but I think it's working well. It's one of those stories that crosses generations and has plenty of backstory for long term wrestling fans to appreciate.
I wasn't too sure about the ending (was it botched?) on the PPV but the story has been totally hooked and look forward to see how it develops and ends.
- Rusev
To think Rusev made his 'debut' at the 2014 Royal Rumble and this Raw debut the following April, it's been one hell of a year for the Russian. He's another one that is totally into his character and I love it. I guess not being American means a bit of his gimmick is 'lost' on me, since he's not pissing on my Country or it's heroes, but he does it so well and the reactions he gets are great.
What I like even more are HIS reactions. He doesn't ignore them, he reacts to the crowd shouting his angry Russian/English. Even last night when the crowd were chanting for Jerry Lawler, he reacted to that by shouting at Jerry Lawler (just a shame the commentary totally ignored it). Again, I'm a total mark for any wrestler who interacts with the crowd and plays off their reactions - think of the best wrestlers and they all did this. Hogan, Flair, Owen Hart, Stone Cold, The Rock, etc
There's probably more I've missed and can't remember instantly off the top of my head (which is probably saying something), but I think I'll do another 'What I liked' after Wrestlemania for a true 'Season Review' as I know there's more, but Rusev and The Rhodes Family are my two favourite things about WWE right now.
Even if Lesnar re-signs they're taking the title off him at Mania. Here's where I think they go provided Lesnar re-signs:
Reigns wins the title at Mania, Lesnar disappears.
Rollins cashes in at Raw after Mania, wins title
Reigns chases Rollins at ensuing PPVs over next couple of months (Extreme Rules, Payback), getting screwed out of the title in various ways by the Authority
Reigns finally triumphs at MITB or Battleground and regains the title. Brock returns and beats the shit out of Reigns following his match.
If Reigns wins at MITB, they set up Lesnar/Reigns/Rollins at Battleground where Reigns pins Rollins, and then Lesnar vs. Reigns 1v1 at SummerSlam.
If it's at Battleground, they just go Lesnar vs. Reigns 1v1 at SummerSlam.
Reigns wins the title at Mania, Lesnar disappears.
Rollins cashes in at Raw after Mania, wins title
Reigns chases Rollins at ensuing PPVs over next couple of months (Extreme Rules, Payback), getting screwed out of the title in various ways by the Authority
Reigns finally triumphs at MITB or Battleground and regains the title. Brock returns and beats the shit out of Reigns following his match.
If Reigns wins at MITB, they set up Lesnar/Reigns/Rollins at Battleground where Reigns pins Rollins, and then Lesnar vs. Reigns 1v1 at SummerSlam.
If it's at Battleground, they just go Lesnar vs. Reigns 1v1 at SummerSlam.
Why?
Reigns has been built to look strong, but he's going against Brock Lesnar, he kind of has to be.
On the other hand, Brock Lesnar beat John Cena and Seth Rollins convincingly after almost being stretchered out.
No one has come close to beating Brock since winning the title.
Why wouldn't Brock just step over Reigns?
I honestly think they will go one of two ways
1) Reigns turns heel w/ Heyman, Rollins cashes in on Lesnar after Reigns gets DQ'd destroying Lesnar with a chair. Reigns & Sheamus join Authority 2.0; Reigns gets Heyman as a mouth piece, Rollins is the sniveling weasel-y WWE champ for a while. (Probably the case if Lesnar does not re-sign)
2) Lesnar wrecks Reigns, and proceeds to destroy everyone for the next year. The Authority "renews" MitB for Rollins, but you do Lesnar vs Orton between WM and Summerslam, Lesnar vs Bryan at SSlam, Lesnar vs HHH at Royal Rumble, then go Brock vs Rock at WM 32 to try to sell out Texas. (Or, go Brock vs Taker part 2 at Texas, with the stip that if Taker loses, he retires).
I think the entire "Reigns beats Lesnar, life goes on" is too predictable even for modern WWE. No one thought Lesnar would beat 'Taker, and no one thought they'd have Bryan main event Mania last year - and both happened.
Sweeney Tom
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What if Seth cashed in tonight and it became Rollins/Reigns at Mania and Brock just fucked off early
Nocturnowl
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Woah now, we can't build up mid card feuds too much, when we get to Raw I'm sure the whole angle will be addressed as simply wacky ol' lunatic Ambrose stealing belts because he can.
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