Metalingus5150
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Can the ACLU go after those workers?!
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Federal judge grants stay on Trump ban for people who landed in U.S. with valid visas
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ElRenoRaven
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Yup I have. That group has been around since Trump started running. They always have batshit insane ads wanting you to call their line and let DC or some other groups now how totally amazing the new Messiah Donald Trump is and why every citizen of this planet should bow down to him and kiss his feet. They tend to get a good amount of them aired on CNN.
Hierophant
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yeah this trump guy isn't working out, maybe one of the second amendment people can take care of it, I don't know I didn't say anything
They will, but it looks like they will only take orders from the White House.
Technically he was and is in violation of the Constitution the second he swore in
Hierophant
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is your airport customs job really worth the overwhelming backlash that is about to happen? I mean really
lastplayed
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You really need to implement some sort of money back guarantee/no questions asked refund for presidents.
Hierophant
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nah all purchases are final because it is expected that customers thoroughly research the product they want to go with sad to say
also the receipt said I bought something else so I don't think I can exchange it
They are green card carrying residents
sunshine and gasoline
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Fucking hell. This is going to get ugly quick.
Has it ever been thus?
Nah, just a ban on people from countries that happen to be muslim. Totally not the same thing!
Also, these are people who have already been granted visas or green cards. They have already been determined to be allowed in the country, or are already permanent residents of the country.
Fuck you and your dog whistling.
Yes.
Wulfric
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They think they're right. Let them go to jail if that's what they want.
ACLU's got some work to do before February it looks like.
Dylan Sexbang
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This really feels like history in the making.
Make the distinction between executive and judicial branches of the U.S. Government.
Yes, and this needs a new thread.
The United States foreign policy leaves America with an moral and ethical duty to accept immigrants. Especially refugees.
We have Military Bases in 38 sovereign, foreign countries. We have no right to deny anyone free of suspicion of a crime from coming here
Is that the only post they made in this thread? Funny how they do that.
Electric Eye
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He's pushing for a constitutional crisis. They are insane and will take it to the edge and beyond.
This is honestly shocking. The courts stated that Trumps EO is on hold for the moment....so why continue following it? Do they KNOW they are breaking the law and could go to jail for continuing the EO?!
.....Can't believe this.
All of the people detained are legal and have been technically allowed to enter to the US, as they have visas and green cards. Don't even bother to reply to this disingenuous bullshit that guy is peddling.
They take orders directly from the White House.
Seems to be isolated cases but yes, some are.
So some have let the people through? I haven't seen any notices of such.
It's more like people being released are the isolated cases.
From what I've seen the reports of border security not following the court order center on two locations. Could be more widespread but it's super noisy right now.
SchrodingerC
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Made a $20 donation to ACLU. It's not much, but for them every dollar counts right now and possibly for the next 4 years.
This is factually not true as Immigration at certain airports are still detaining individuals who were in transit when the EO was signed. Bother to be updated on the situation before you reply
By admitted I meant allowed to enter per their visa. Fixed the post.
These people either have Visas or Green cards. They are legally permitted to enter the US
NYCmetsfan
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I was at the courthouse when they granted the stay. Was a great moment
Thanks, man! Now, the bad news...
nephilimdj
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even the_donald are pushing this is related to israel due to 6/7 countries banning israel visitors, whole thing is a mess.
I have a feeling lobby groups helped make this law
I have a feeling lobby groups helped make this law
AFAIK when they wanted to clarify, what happened was that Trump Admin Official said "on a case by case basis" despite the EO saying visas and greencards are okay.
So they're not okay.
Fuck Bannon, by the way.
.....That explains things. Trump and his team likely think their stuff can still fly when the Judges stated a clear 'NO' to the EO until further notice.
This has been stated many times I think, but could this be a first step toward impeachment? He has other things helping a case toward that, but still; this is a very public case of Trump's Administration outright breaking a law publicly. People are noticing.
Yeah, I'm worried he might go full insanity and just ban all non-citizens at some point. My mother in law only has a green card despite living in the US for over 40 years and my husband is going to tell her that she should either get citizenship or just move back to her home country (Japan, so it's extremely unlikely there'd be bans from there... but I would put nothing past Trump at this point). She probably won't listen, but I wouldn't put anything past the admin at this point.
No impeachment. I'm 82% sure Paul Ryan is currently literally sucking Donald's tiny cock.
No, because that would require House Republicans to care, and they won't.
NYCmetsfan
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You mean that it didn't fully stop the order?
I thought your post was insinuating that because they were green card holders, they've already be released from the airport. I see that's not your point, so my apologies
The stay that was granted said that anyone detained who were in transit when the EO was signed has to be permitted entry. If someone from Iran wanted to book a flight to JFK tomorrow, they'd be denied.
iRAWRasaurus
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I am really hoping the IC are finding connections between Trump and Putin.
Randolph Freelander
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In some locations, the court order is being ignored.
No, CBP is going rogue and still detaining and deporting some of the people. Some reports claim even that they pressure detainees into signing away their status as long term/green card resident.
radios shipping overview
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Same! It was pretty euphoric right then. Lot of hard work ahead, though.
So according to CNN, the rollout of this order was a complete shitshow, with the Department of Homeland Security not even being involved in its preparation:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/28/politics/donald-trump-travel-ban/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/28/politics/donald-trump-travel-ban/index.html
Sigh.....knew things weren't over. Maybe further protest and backlash will help change things. That sparked the EO being on hold in most places via the protests helping lawyers get funding to halt the EO. Maybe it can help push congress toward taking action?
The Republicans that are sane must not like all the toxic backlash and utter hatred a large chunk of the world has toward them currently.
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