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Fellow Americans, do you realize how much people envy us?
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OK. But the starting issue was bank deregulation and poor decisions. The ensuing downturn highlighted the problems with the Eurozone.
But the UK's problems are also in a large part self made.
Wind's Howling
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You still lose.
Jonathan Ive, the desginer is British.
I'm pretty sure engineers designed the phone, the cheap plastic exterior is nice though.
lol
You see, one thing (and I'm not accusing here) that annoys and upsets a lot of people outside the U.S is when 'some' (stress, 'some') Americans state how great they are and presume everyone loves them and wants to be them, which is very self serving, but sadly emits a huge negative backlash from people, which they then sadly apply to the whole country.
As an Englishman, I used to get insanely angry when any american (usually on TV etc), even a comedian, would say how they saved us in WW2. I can not think of anything more disrespectful, inaccurate, or disgusting a thing to say to the countries that fought (even now I'm having to calm myself!) But there's something about the flag waving and extreme patriotism that typically comes from America that rattles people something rotten.
Personally, I like Americans. We met a couple of guys in Prague a few years back, and they were as self deprecating and as pleasant as you could hope to meet (which incidentally taught my younger self not to blanket accuse the whole nation of vapid jingoism).
America has achieved many fine things which the whole world enjoys everyday, alongside the accomplishments of everyone else. I think most people who get annoyed at Americans would simply prefer it if the flag waving minority would maybe show a little modesty and introspective thinking every now and again
We're visiting America in the summer for the first time, and I can't wait! It looks like a great place to have a fun fortnight in the summer. Am I envious however? Not from the perspective of permanent residence. The political system and those surrounding it are a bit too scary for my liking. But that isnt enough to stop me really looking forward to visiting and meeting some great people.
To sum up, we were talking to those two lads we met in Prague, and Britney Spears appeared on one of the monitors in the pub. One of them turned to me and said "and there's our contribution to global culture" completely out of the blue, and I laughed myself silly (as did he I stress, he had a very british sense of humour). Later we were talking about President Bush and the guy who cracked the joke was asking what we thought about the war. He had serious reservations, and questions he wanted answering. When I asked his friend, he said he supported the war, and when I asked why, and Ill never forget this, he said "because he's the president, and I support him".
Complete blind faith (and this is Bush I might stress). In my country, we drag our politicians (Priminister as well) through the bushes every day, they are constantly harassed, bad mouthed and scrutinised, as it should be. Whilst it's the governments job to run the country, it is the people's job to keep them in line. Someone with that much power needs to be at the mercy of the people, but that blind faith, simply because he was The President, scared me quite a lot.
Am I looking forward to beer and a dog at Fenway though? You betcha!
(Also, I cant wait for art galleries and museums as well, just in case that sounded condescending! ;P )
"Government is not reason. Government is not eloquence. It is force. And, like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master" - George Washington.
"Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious" - Oscar Wilde
As an Englishman, I used to get insanely angry when any american (usually on TV etc), even a comedian, would say how they saved us in WW2. I can not think of anything more disrespectful, inaccurate, or disgusting a thing to say to the countries that fought (even now I'm having to calm myself!) But there's something about the flag waving and extreme patriotism that typically comes from America that rattles people something rotten.
Personally, I like Americans. We met a couple of guys in Prague a few years back, and they were as self deprecating and as pleasant as you could hope to meet (which incidentally taught my younger self not to blanket accuse the whole nation of vapid jingoism).
America has achieved many fine things which the whole world enjoys everyday, alongside the accomplishments of everyone else. I think most people who get annoyed at Americans would simply prefer it if the flag waving minority would maybe show a little modesty and introspective thinking every now and again
We're visiting America in the summer for the first time, and I can't wait! It looks like a great place to have a fun fortnight in the summer. Am I envious however? Not from the perspective of permanent residence. The political system and those surrounding it are a bit too scary for my liking. But that isnt enough to stop me really looking forward to visiting and meeting some great people.
To sum up, we were talking to those two lads we met in Prague, and Britney Spears appeared on one of the monitors in the pub. One of them turned to me and said "and there's our contribution to global culture" completely out of the blue, and I laughed myself silly (as did he I stress, he had a very british sense of humour). Later we were talking about President Bush and the guy who cracked the joke was asking what we thought about the war. He had serious reservations, and questions he wanted answering. When I asked his friend, he said he supported the war, and when I asked why, and Ill never forget this, he said "because he's the president, and I support him".
Complete blind faith (and this is Bush I might stress). In my country, we drag our politicians (Priminister as well) through the bushes every day, they are constantly harassed, bad mouthed and scrutinised, as it should be. Whilst it's the governments job to run the country, it is the people's job to keep them in line. Someone with that much power needs to be at the mercy of the people, but that blind faith, simply because he was The President, scared me quite a lot.
Am I looking forward to beer and a dog at Fenway though? You betcha!
(Also, I cant wait for art galleries and museums as well, just in case that sounded condescending! ;P )
"Government is not reason. Government is not eloquence. It is force. And, like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master" - George Washington.
"Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious" - Oscar Wilde
No, I live in America. Excuse me while I order some items online from Europe and watch as I get a discount of 20% since I ain't got no VAT tax over herr
That sums it up well for me. There's plenty of fantastic places in the world, but I'd never want to live anywhere but right here in America.
I should have realized this myself.
All engineers and no designers is how you end up like RIM.
Are they American?
No, they're our superiors, Canadians.
No. Is Jony Ive?
You don't get products in design museums because they're well engineered, though.
Trent Strong
Banned
So the conservatives are right about wanting smaller government. Hey-ooo!!!
What about engineering museums?
I mean superior period. Ideologically, economically, physiologically (penis size), etc
I believe Alaska was the 49th state that joined the union
You can put that money you save towards your future medical bills. ;P
The world is an engineering museum.
Maybe, but who cares about those? Nobody. Or Americans, probably.
We don't get sick in America. My diet of Mountain dew and Chicken McNuggets strengthens my immune system.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
You're blowing my mind man.
Residents of the most powerful country in the world? Only opinion that matters then
lolol
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Can I ask though, have you ever lived anywhere but America?
engineered by God?
You can say the same for design.
Design is too flimsy and easily influenced, comes and goes like fashion.
We were the first to fly (in controlled flight)
1st point: complete bullshit.
2nd point: Fair, but the non-religous are increasing pretty fast.
3rd point: You only say this when guns are not legal. Most of us do not even own guns.
Man made God.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
That's what makes it interesting.
Plus some design endure forever. You can still see the influence of dieter rams today.
How is prudity "complete bullshit"? People freak out because of nipples. NIPPLES!
Americans who think it's impressive that America has achieved a lot in a small space of time have obviously never heard the phrase 'standing on the shoulders of giants'.
And what giants! Consider that all the important scientists of the early 20th century were European. And we call this the 'American century'. Heh.
And what giants! Consider that all the important scientists of the early 20th century were European. And we call this the 'American century'. Heh.
I guess if all you care about is boobs on the tv, but it's not like we're all locked down with chastity belts, it's pretty easy to get laid.
Giants aren't real stop reading your European fantasy novels.
Only a heathen who has no appreciation for design would say such blasphemous things.
True. Any design that focuses on functionality first has the potential to last forever.
"Fuck" is censored on TV or any other broadcast.
We still have freaky, kinky, crazy sex all the time so that hardly matters.
Wind's Howling
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I love GAF. You get to learn something new every day.
Henri Giffard was French
We also make up our own facts.
But thank you for that link to wikipedia, made possible by yours truly, America, which laid the groundwork for the internet.
I'm being so dumb lol
Trent Strong
Banned
Okay, so then they're not prude but hypocrites. Better?
Damn you, this is the second OT topic in a week that posts a picture of a poutine... Now I need to pick up another one after work
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Though I also wouldn't say everything has to be like that, if not the world would be pretty boring.
Does he get to design his own armor?
Not really, I mean, you can pay for porn through your cable provider. You won't see tits or hear fuck while watching good morning america at 8am on a monday morning though. I don't really see that as a loss...
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