No? There were women at E3.
Female only gaming event cancelled following online harassment
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No? There were women at E3.
The gaming industry is already male dominated. There's a difference between these two things.
Mr_Appleby
Member
Oh for fucks sake. Anybody even remotely defending this should be fucking ashamed of themselves.
psychowave
Member
The vast majority of attendees were men and no one seemed to complain about it.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
The pointlessness of the whataboutism that describes a hypothetical men only gaming event ignores the fact that gaming events in general are mostly male dominated to an absurd degree and very very off-putting to women with things such as "booth babes" being used to sell games that have nothing to do with sexual content. So if there was an uproar, it'd be for different reasons. Like somebody said on the last page, it's about as stupid as asking "why isn't there a white history month?"
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
I was talking abou the one exhibitted as piece of meat like in car show I find it really stupid boobs won't sell me a game.But to some publisher it seems to be normal.
In terms of prominence and impact, he was one of the main people pushing it, though he would constantly pull that weaksauce thing where he'd say he was "just asking questions" and how "we just need to focus on all the unethical things done by people who I just happen to disagree with politically" and all that.
ScientificPizza
Banned
#notallneogafthreads
Lucky Seven
Banned
Wow, that sounds like an awesome event! What a nightmare, though. I can't help but be reminded of 4chan, but instead we're hearing about Forocoches? Hopefully some other people can try this again.
"I know all about sexism, btw here's a totally irrelvant non-point"
you sound like an expert
These posts are my favorite because they can apply to both sides. Hell, "this" could be referring to the existence of this thread for all we know!
"Mens only" events happen already. They're just not named as such because, well... let's take a look at E3.
Finding ONE woman quickly turns into a Where's Waldo game
I think that we can't pretend to have 50% men/women in a mixed event if it's "now" that we begin to have women interested in videogames. The numbers aren't still there.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Well the definition I get is simply a woman who's not affraid to show her plastic there's no idiot part of any kind.
Some of you may confuse it for the blond stereotype but I wasn't.
Tbf, an event that doesn't allow a certain gender and a event that only attracts a certain gender are completely different things. (not saying that one event is worse then the other, but your E3 comparison here doesn't really work).
boredandlazy
Member
Regardless of what positive influences TB may have in the PC gaming space from a purely gaming perpective, let's not ever mistake it for TB being a good person.
ScientificPizza
Banned
Why do you keep saying plastic
Dangansona
Member
But it is people. Any kind of non white male exclusive event has met this response. Just in the last month I saw outrage over Women old screenings of Wonder Woman and some clip of Tucker Carlson being a twat about a black only event.
Not that it's much consolation, but I don't think the reaction is to look at this and be embarrassed by gamers. Look at this and be embarrassed by people (and try to do your best to fight it in gaming circles).
Agreed.
You're embarrassing yourself, the blonde stereotype is part of the bimbo image.
It always was.
Bimbo also means fake boobs.
Bobo Dakes
Member
AHAHAHAHAHAA!!! My dude really tried to slip that in like we wouldn't notice.
There's no need to have a male only event when they already dominate the industry. It's redundant as hell.
It's like when a kid at my college pitched a White Student Association (that "all students" were free to join) to a school mostly white people went to. You're both missing the point of why they make groups and events for certain groups.
Double Donut
Member
Why do so many people online get such a kick out of being horrible? It's freaky.
Alebrije
Member
The trolls could be more than actual women attending the event , hence creating chaos and making feel uncomfortable the women.
Forocoches has tons of subscribers so just a tiny amount of them were needed to troll the event.
I wonder if people who think this is only gamers were surprised by Trump becoming president?
Ah sure, I guess you mean so called "booth babes". To my knowlegde this kind of hiring isn't anymore allowed at E3 either? (feel free to correct) I think it started with PAX that banned it first. Now they have simply booth workers, men and women, who are there to present and demonstrate the games. Rather than hiring women for the sole purpose of titillating the male attendees. It changed so women would be there to sell products, not to be products.
"PAX has a strict ‘no booth babe' policy with the purpose of creating an environment where everyone can feel comfortable and welcome, and the focus is on games, not hired booth staff."
Why the fuck are you assuming that the women who were to appear all got plastic surgery in order to flaunt their sexuality?
Think for a fucking second.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Well I don't know what else to say shape ? form? I gotta admit I'm not used to talk about women body in english and in french we say "sa plastique" talking about a woman's body so I assumled it was the same.
ScientificPizza
Banned
I mean, yeah, there probably would. But that's only because gaming is an incredibly male dominated space with the vast majority of its leaders being male. Dudes don't *need* a male only event because the male voice is the default voice. It's not even remotely fair to directly compare a male only event with a female only event
No one needs you to fly in here and play devils advocate. It's completely unnecessary and contributes nothing of value
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Ohhh I get why I upset some of you now in French we sa "sa plastique" for "her body" I wasn't talking about surgery just her body but I didn't know how to phrase it.
"plastique" when talking about a bimbo is also about how they're made out of "plastique" since nothing about them is real.
That's also the connotation of the word bimbo.
French is fun.
Gotdatmoney
Member
Couldn't you just say "stop using women as objects" if that is what you meant? I don't even mean this as accusatory, probably better off stating what you mean than using slang.
You are part of the problem. This reasoning is bullshit, antiquated and needs to fuck off.
By saying that "maybe they posted out to the wrong audience" you're putting the blame on the organizers of the event, even if you don't intended it to sound that way. Sorry if I seemed too fired up, but you can never be too trusting in this kinds of threads. Some users like to feign ignorance to shitpost all over.
As for how they got to see the harassment... I mean, it's pretty clear that these assholes didn't magically decide to stay in their own little cesspool of a forum. They leaked to Twitter, e-mail, etc. That was the point of their campaign.
See? Faking ignorance at its finest.
Dude. Seriously. "Booth babes" is offensive and you know it. That's why Budi said "so-called 'booth babes'" and you freaking know it. You're not fooling anyone.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
So the right term is booth babes ? I don't know I always thought babe was a bit more vulgar than bimbos but seems like I was wrong.
psychowave
Member
The point is that a male only gaming event would be virtually indistinguishable from a regular gaming event, hence the talk about a male only event is dumb and pointless.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Not it's not connoted with bimbo look at the definition its a forme of physical beauty
http://www.linternaute.com/dictionnaire/fr/definition/plastique/
here's a link since to you every word seems connected to bimbo.
Mr_Appleby
Member
So what. It's not the same fucking thing at all. We men have had decades of defacto men-only gaming events. We don't have cause to feel uncomfortable or threatened by the behaviour of women at gaming events. We don't have a history of systemic exclusion of our gender from participation in gaming as either a hobby or a career. We don't have a history of receiving death threats for engaging in discussions about games. We don't have to engage with a toxic fanbase that thinks women only play, make or discuss games in order to receive male attention.
So tell me why a men-only event would even need to be held. Because it's bloody obvious why someone would want to have a women-only event.
I bolded the booth worker for you. That's what they use at these events. And yes I would agree that if E3 didn't already get rid of "booth babes", they really should. But those aren't the only women participating at E3. They work in many different roles just like men do, while highly underrepresented. And this is a problem people are trying to fix.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Dude be angry all you want I just want to know how to call them I really don't know right now So yeah be as pessimistic as you want but I'm not used to talk about thoses women in english and I don't knwo what is the right term so instead of claiming for a consipiracy why don't you tell me so I can avoid offending anyone in the future?
I couldn't care less if they had the event, shame on them for caving to the trolls.
I don't understand the absolute frailty "gamers" have. The man children that act this way and exclude, and on the other side the "they said hateful ignorant things to me, I'm out" people. Women, minorities, whatever should go and attend things they enjoy attending. Wear your thick skin and shut the people up. Bullies and ignorance will always exsist and people will always overcome them, or fear it and let it control their lives.
I've been there I've lived through it, I've let things get me down and I've also brushed them off. Women shouldn't feel on the outside of the gaming world, but they also shouldn't let themselves sit there either. I don't tell my wife to not go online and play, I don't tell her to avoid playing with randoms. If I have a daughter I won't discourage her from playing games If that's what she wants nor deture her from comics or "nerd" culture. I applaud all the people that stand up for themselves and do what they want and try not to let harassment stop them, it's tough!
You can do anything you want to do, doesn't matter what the haters say. Cool Runnings taught me that 😎
I don't understand the absolute frailty "gamers" have. The man children that act this way and exclude, and on the other side the "they said hateful ignorant things to me, I'm out" people. Women, minorities, whatever should go and attend things they enjoy attending. Wear your thick skin and shut the people up. Bullies and ignorance will always exsist and people will always overcome them, or fear it and let it control their lives.
I've been there I've lived through it, I've let things get me down and I've also brushed them off. Women shouldn't feel on the outside of the gaming world, but they also shouldn't let themselves sit there either. I don't tell my wife to not go online and play, I don't tell her to avoid playing with randoms. If I have a daughter I won't discourage her from playing games If that's what she wants nor deture her from comics or "nerd" culture. I applaud all the people that stand up for themselves and do what they want and try not to let harassment stop them, it's tough!
You can do anything you want to do, doesn't matter what the haters say. Cool Runnings taught me that 😎
Dick Jones
Banned
Still no reason not to throw them out. There are terms and conditions on tickets for a reason. Throw out the troublemakers, the attendees will move on after any outburst. The women will look at the bigger picture once the trolls are taken care off. They may come to another event if they see trolls dealt with quickly.
ViolentP
Member
I know plenty of white dudes that are respectful of others but hey, stay angry I guess. I'm sure that anger is only helping people learn respect and all.
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Because no one was excluded, everyone was welcome.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
oh ok Booth Workers I get it now.So please guys excuse I didn't know Booth workers was the right terms but to my defense even in french I don't know how to call them so I didn't know what to translate.