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FIFA 11 |OT|

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JWong

Banned
Slizz said:
Back-heel pass? It's just a normal pass, all depends on where the recipient to your next pass is. If you receive a ball with your back to the goal and your winger is making a run behind you into the box pass to him(with your back still to the goal) and he should do a back-heel.
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Might need to hold the skill modifier (LT). I remember doing that.
 
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Awesome Animals

Member
Slizz said:
Back-heel pass? It's just a normal pass, all depends on where the recipient to your next pass is. If you receive a ball with your back to the goal and your winger is making a run behind you into the box pass to him(with your back still to the goal) and he should do a back-heel.
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I've found that the backheel pass only works when you flick the left stick backwards, relative to where the ball handlers body is. I've found that it is important to flick the stick though. (That's what she said)
 
M

Mr. Luchador

Member
SmokingBarrelX said:
I've found that the backheel pass only works when you flick the left stick backwards, relative to where the ball handlers body is. I've found that it is important to flick the stick though. (That's what she said)
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Yup.
 
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Najaf

Member
How in the world do you do the around the world juggling trick? I get the ball juggling started, hold LT while tapping RB and spin the right stick but nothing happens. I have been searching for some video tutorials on youtube aside from the official one but have had minimal luck.
 
J

JWong

Banned
Najaf said:
How in the world do you do the around the world juggling trick? I get the ball juggling started, hold LT while tapping RB and spin the right stick but nothing happens. I have been searching for some video tutorials on youtube aside from the official one but have had minimal luck.
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Requires 5 star skill move rating if that's what you're missing. Maybe even some other stats.

I can pull it off easy with a pro, but Kaka doesn't have the ability to do it.
 
K

kaizoku

I'm not as deluded as I make myself out to be
anyone heard of any fixes for club mode/online?

I think its ridiculous how buggy it is, its the mode which requires the most co-ordination from humans to get together, form a club, get online at the same time, where invites don't work, party chat isn't able to hold as many as the max number of players and its the most buggy mode! They seriously need to work on making this the easiest mode to use considering the difficulty in getting there in the first place.

and matchmaking omg its so bad. Why pair a 70-77 team up against an 88 team? outrageous and not fun
 
A

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
connecting works fine now. had like 6/6 games yesterday and only one had lag (and by lag i mean that hideous two-second input delay, they're all going to have some reasonable amount of input lag obviously)

don't really know about that other stuff, never paid much attention to it. only thing that bothers me is how the most popular combo is 1 striker + 1 any. BS imo as i said in our club thread. min should be 3p and frankly there shouldn't even be an any. yes the computer sucks sometimes but oh well get a real club together or deal with it like we usually do
 
K

kaizoku

I'm not as deluded as I make myself out to be
AstroLad said:
connecting works fine now. had like 6/6 games yesterday and only one had lag (and by lag i mean that hideous two-second input delay, they're all going to have some reasonable amount of input lag obviously)

don't really know about that other stuff, never paid much attention to it. only thing that bothers me is how the most popular combo is 1 striker + 1 any. BS imo as i said in our club thread. min should be 3p and frankly there shouldn't even be an any. yes the computer sucks sometimes but oh well get a real club together or deal with it like we usually do
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I don't mind ANY, its another dimension to the system, but we should be able to filter for it. or if its a ranked game for example. and in bad cases why cant we have an inter-club friendly? or just have a bunch of our pro's join a party and play pro ranked matches together

seriously all I want is to use my pro's with my friends, the club infrastructure is 2nd.

anyway weirdest thing ever last night.

was playing a mate who had me 2-0 down in like 1 minute and I couldnt get near him. Then it felt like he took the piss for the rest of the game, not playing, standing still, occassionally half trying to score, anyway I pulled one goal back and it finished 2-1, but I struggled even though it seemed like he wanst even there for most of the game.

Then today I speak to him and he says he beat me 5-0 and at times it was as if I wasn't there but my pro was there and it was my name and everything! WTF!

Our game somehow got split up and we now live in parallel dimensions!
 
D

dollartaco

Member
I feel like a lot of the games I play on pro difficulty I have a 60-40 possession advantage, but I still can't get any sort of room on offense. Conversely, on semi-pro, it's almost always a blowout.

The goals I score regularly are headers on crosses and the odd breakaway, both in transition. It's to the point that I actually give up the ball and let the other team just take it downfield once they've set up in their defensive zone.
 
D

Decado

Member
I think I score 80%+ of my goals from headers...of course my team is set up that way. My starting striker is so slow he couldn't score on a breakaway with a three yard head start :lol

The key for me was getting good wingers and LB/RB who can cross. Tons of attacking options down the side.

That being said, even though I have a pretty good centre, I cant go through the middle at all. I usually play World Class and now transitioning to Legendary. I can say crosses work very well up to World Class, and I've scored a few in Legendary, as well.
 
A

alterno69

Banned
Tf53 said:
Considering that the goals are a direct result of how you play the game, it's most likely you. I find that most people have a certain style that they play with, which results in similar situations.

Do you mix flank play with going through the middle and quick counter-attacks? Or do you just find a pattern that works and stick with that?
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No, i mean the ball always enters the goal at the same regions, it's either a corner or right next to the post. In PES the variety comes not only from the play before the goal but the way the ball behaves after the last touch, how it enters the goal at any spot, middle, sides, high,low. All the shots look way too similar IMO.

I do mix my attacking style, i refuse to explode the games cheap tactics.
 
V

Verano

Reads Ace as Lace. May God have mercy on their soul
Decado said:
I think I score 80%+ of my goals from headers...of course my team is set up that way. My starting striker is so slow he couldn't score on a breakaway with a three yard head start :lol
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I fuckin hate that shit honestly. I gave Iniesta a nice through ball in which the defenders were a couple of feet away from him. He was one on one with the GK and for some dumb ass reason he doesn't shoot the ball and his ball gets easily confiscated by the GK.
Same scenario happened again when I gave Adriano a nice fuckin thru ball where he went one on one with the GK. So before the GK could rush to hack the ball off of Adriano, I managed to press B to force his ass to kick it in and he scored a nice power shot. Even the AI from FIFA WC 2010 would score if he had the opportunity.
:/

Well it's an EA game so I can't expect anything better til next years FIFA game.
 
R

Ryck

Member
Just played the Fifa 11 demo for ps3 and I have to say initially I am impressed as hell. I might have to jump ship from Pes this year. O_O
 
moai

moai

Member
kaizoku said:
I don't mind ANY, its another dimension to the system, but we should be able to filter for it. or if its a ranked game for example. and in bad cases why cant we have an inter-club friendly? or just have a bunch of our pro's join a party and play pro ranked matches together

seriously all I want is to use my pro's with my friends, the club infrastructure is 2nd.

anyway weirdest thing ever last night.

was playing a mate who had me 2-0 down in like 1 minute and I couldnt get near him. Then it felt like he took the piss for the rest of the game, not playing, standing still, occassionally half trying to score, anyway I pulled one goal back and it finished 2-1, but I struggled even though it seemed like he wanst even there for most of the game.

Then today I speak to him and he says he beat me 5-0 and at times it was as if I wasn't there but my pro was there and it was my name and everything! WTF!

Our game somehow got split up and we now live in parallel dimensions!
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this has happened to me twice, the screen went to black and when the game returned i was playing alone. other club members started to do weird stuff (going out of the pitch, sliding tackles, etc). when i talked to them they were playing another game in which we were loosing. in the one i was playing we were winning. they were on a corner and i was defending.
i think this also happened on fifa 10, i read about it on some forum.
 
K

Kitschkraft

Member
Can someone explain to me how the slide percentages work? It seems like no matter how clean my tackle is (Either standing or sliding) the best I can get on the stat sheet is "1/2". This is pretty fucking annoying as I'm trying to get all of the accomplishments for my virtual pro, but I can't finish off some of the basic defender ones because the tackles don't seem to work correctly. Am I doing something wrong?
 
J

JWong

Banned
Liara T'Soni said:
Can someone explain to me how the slide percentages work? It seems like no matter how clean my tackle is (Either standing or sliding) the best I can get on the stat sheet is "1/2". This is pretty fucking annoying as I'm trying to get all of the accomplishments for my virtual pro, but I can't finish off some of the basic defender ones because the tackles don't seem to work correctly. Am I doing something wrong?
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I think you need do a clean slide tackle and have the ball possessed by your team.
 
A

agaru

Member
PS3 folks, join the PS3 GAF club here:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=409480

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We whooped some club 7-0 last night, r4z4 is a beast. :lol
 
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k0ji-wd

Member
bolbronx said:
Isn't there a 360 league or club?
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Umm. . .yes and yes (but you're too late for the current league)

And like Astro said, there shouldn't be an 'ANY' option, no filter for it, nothing, they need to remove it outright. But as it is, you're at a huge advantage if you don't have at least one player as an ANY since 95% of clubs will have one.
 
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Tf53

Member
k0ji-wd said:
And like Astro said, there shouldn't be an 'ANY' option, no filter for it, nothing, they need to remove it outright. But as it is, you're at a huge advantage if you don't have at least one player as an ANY since 95% of clubs will have one.
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I'm also an advocate for disallowing full assists in online ranked matches. Or, if you want to make things even more interesting, only allow assists below level 10 or something. That way if you want to compete, you wouldn't be drawn to playing with assists on. As it is now, even semi-auto controls are a disadvantage if there's at least a hint of lag.
 
D

Decado

Member
I love how AI players can body check or block you if you nudge the ball ahead with no foul. Makes some of the tricks, particularly the heal to heal, useless :\
 
S

Slizz

Member
Sometimes when I'm playing with semi/manual controls(gotta do it for the league) I feel like I am at a disadvantage online against people. For instance when I try to do a one-touch lead pass, no matter how soft I press the button the lead pass comes off like a rocket and never connects with anyone, which is fucking hilarious because of how weak the manual lead pass is.

I also get so frustrated playing online with these people in general, coupled with the fact that I'm usually using a 3.5* team against 5* and I play them tight the whole game, then since most 5* teams have more stamina than the lower rated ones, they get me on a counter-attack and score on some bullshit. Especially helps with their assisted shooting on goal, since I can never score outside the box with semi shoot assistance.

I also feel like because of my settings I'm using I should be allowed more leniency with my passes and shots but whatev. I'm still doing good online in ranked matches its just I'll have a streak of 4 wins then get taken out by a cheap goal with a disparity in team rankings.
 
K

kaizoku

I'm not as deluded as I make myself out to be
Slizz said:
Sometimes when I'm playing with semi/manual controls(gotta do it for the league) I feel like I am at a disadvantage online against people. For instance when I try to do a one-touch lead pass, no matter how soft I press the button the lead pass comes off like a rocket and never connects with anyone, which is fucking hilarious because of how weak the manual lead pass is.

I also get so frustrated playing online with these people in general, coupled with the fact that I'm usually using a 3.5* team against 5* and I play them tight the whole game, then since most 5* teams have more stamina than the lower rated ones, they get me on a counter-attack and score on some bullshit. Especially helps with their assisted shooting on goal, since I can never score outside the box with semi shoot assistance.

I also feel like because of my settings I'm using I should be allowed more leniency with my passes and shots but whatev. I'm still doing good online in ranked matches its just I'll have a streak of 4 wins then get taken out by a cheap goal with a disparity in team rankings.
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I'm the opposite, I reckon assisted settings are a hindrance. Its bizarre. I went from being a 8 goals in 8 club games star striker to not scoring in 5 games because I accidentally set everything to assisted overnight and forgot about it. I literally missed a barnyard full of easy chances and it was all because assisted shooting was on. When I switched back to semi I was doing the same thing and it was trickling in, swooping in, curling in and smashing in with ease, ironically, semi assisted feels more assisted than assisted.

Passing is similar, I have to use assisted for Club games because Club games are often too hectic and you're so seldom involved that its hard to get your bearings with manual, but far too often an assisted pass or through ball is too soft or played against a player where you would have played it into space otherwise.

If you control the full team, no way is assisted passing superior. manual passing gives you an out in almost any position cos you can just play into space and chase it yourself or hope a team mate gets it, with assisted that would just hit the opposition player. For me anyway. you just gotta get used to it, then you find you don't think about passes to players anymore, but passes into space and around obstacles, its really liberating.

Having said all that I just played a few games of pro ranked match with full manual passing and semi shooting and bagged probably the best goal my Pro will ever score: http://www.ea.com/uk/football/videos/ugc/42827071

I'm finally at the stage where I can regularly get 9 ratings and compete for man of the match in pro ranked match games, its definitely worth training your guy up and particularly satisfying when you haven't boosted (I boosted a little in exhibition on FIFA 10 cos manager mode sucked so bad!)
 
C

Charles

Member
Anyone else feels that the through pass button should have been labelled as 'give the ball to the opposing team' instead?

Seriously, I don't think I've been able to connect one decent through pass but in Fifa 10 and 9 it was my main move :(
 
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Tf53

Member
kaizoku said:
If you control the full team, no way is assisted passing superior.
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With assisted passing, the AI calculates just the right direction to beat defenders. So in that sense, it's a huge advantage. It pisses me off that it isn't enough that I know exactly what the other guy is gonna do, I have to beat the AI too to steal possession.
 
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kaizoku

I'm not as deluded as I make myself out to be
Tf53 said:
With assisted passing, the AI calculates just the right direction to beat defenders. So in that sense, it's a huge advantage. It pisses me off that it isn't enough that I know exactly what the other guy is gonna do, I have to beat the AI too to steal possession.
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I haven't done any scientific tests but I've never been quite comfortable with assisted passing, maybe its just a mental block but I'm convinced its a handicap which makes the game easier for beginners but limits you in a big way.

I always thought of it as AI will try to "pass to that dude I think you're aiming at with enough power that he can control it". I could be wrong but I personally find assisted always chooses an angle or pace which I don't feel fully happy with and it ends up slowing down my whole build up.

I'd bet FIFA has lost many potential PES converts because of this assisted setting, if I didn't have the choice to change I probably wouldn't be able to enjoy the game.
 
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kaizoku

I'm not as deluded as I make myself out to be
I've finally figured out how to 'trick' the game into making you do backheels, if you've been running away from a team mate and then pressing back and pass, I bet you haven' had much luck.

the trick is to line up 3 players with you in the middle, then when one of the other players passes to you, face the ball and pass to the guy behind you, you're player will do a backheel flick as opposed to retarded try to turn 180 degrees and pass crap.

took me ages to finally do a backheel!

and I got my "weaker foot from outside the box" accomplishment thanks to some quick thinking and stupid online goalkeeper :D I was worried about how I might get that one!

volleys are gonna be hard though. why isn't there more talk about accomplishments and stuff on here? is everyone chatting on the EA forums?
 
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Awesome Animals

Member
Was the backheel discussion in the Ramen United thread? Well, the secret to that is that rather than hold the left stick in the direction you want him to pass, try flicking the left stick when you pass instead. If you do it behind you, then most players will do the backheel (I haven't seen anyone who hasn't but I don't really utilize the move other than to get the accomplishment). Assuming your pro has 5 star skill moves, and you've unlocked the fancy passing trait, you can do the flick pass to complete other random "trick" passing. They are fun, but I don't know if they're useful. Again, I don't use that stuff often.
 
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Gaaraz

Member
Half way through the season and I'm still stuck as 'Not Picked' - kinda wonder when (or even if) I'll get a chance in this career mode thing?

I picked Chelsea which may not have helped admittedly, but jeez, give me a break already FIFA!
 
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Awesome Animals

Member
I hate when people d/c because they're losing. But man do I love it when it is some d playing as Real Madrid.

In other news, here is a beautiful manual pass to Ronaldo when I was Portugal facing a kid who was playing as Argentina, and he got two red cards and gave me two penalties because all he did was slide tackle. It was like Netherlands v Spain WC final when the Dutch made sure to disrupt flow. Almost worked there, almost worked here. He would push the ball straight to Messi and just try to take a finesse shot outside the box every time. I hate cheap exploited tactics. And Portugal's defense isn't that great.

Anyways, here is the goal:

http://www.ea.com/soccer/videos/ugc/43302197
 
Guileless

Guileless

Temp Banned for Remedial Purposes
blizeH said:
Half way through the season and I'm still stuck as 'Not Picked' - kinda wonder when (or even if) I'll get a chance in this career mode thing?

I picked Chelsea which may not have helped admittedly, but jeez, give me a break already FIFA!
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Set John Terry up with the special lady of the first teamer at your position.
 
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Awesome Animals

Member
lolol at Guileless.

Nice chip ATF487. I had a beautiful one with Rooney on a volley today, from the outside of the box, on the corner right over a charging Casillas.
 
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