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[pizzacat]

SFIV was already that for alpha-2

 

[Brobzoid]

Ryu learns some shit with Oro at the age of 54

Sakura has succumbed to the dark hadou

Ryu saves her, sees that even if he trains hard enough the dark hadou will follow and affect him and his loved ones

Ryu and Sak live happily ever after without hadou business

Akuma stops existing shiner he was just a ghost all along

Ken stops training Sean because his son wants to learn how to horse ride and he sends him back to the slums

E Honda succumbs to the devil gene

Ingrid grows tired of humans, ends the world.

 

[Karsticles]

come on, you're better than this
it's valid criticism and doesn't denote why I'm playing/why I'm not playing either game

I read this:

but w/e 2v2 and lasers, sure

As being dismissive of gameplay elements as a primary reason for playing a game in spite of its graphics. If you meant it otherwise, let me know.

 

[Dahbomb]

Marvel Infinite does look significantly worse than Injustice 2.

 

[That Dude John]

SFIV was already that for alpha-2

Roster-wise yeah, they blew that card, but I'd like the story mode to go with it.

Marvel Infinite does look significantly worse than Injustice 2.

I do hope they put in the work to make it look better. I do find it odd that Injustice got more colorful while MvC got less so.

 

[Spuck-uk]

Marvel Infinite does look significantly worse than Injustice 2.

Well, those injustice animations are still ehhhhh

 

[Onemic]

I do hope they put in the work to make it look better. I do find it odd that Injustice got more colorful while MvC got less so.

It's coming out in 4 months. What you see is what you get at this point.

 

[oneida]

I read this:

As being dismissive of gameplay elements as a primary reason for playing a game in spite of its graphics. If you meant it otherwise, let me know.

a common defense of MvCI's graphics is that it's a 2v2 game with lots of stuff going on.

 

[Karsticles]

a common defense of MvCI's graphics is that it's a 2v2 game with lots of stuff going on.

Really? I haven't seen that once on GAF. Obviously that's bullshit since MvC3 has more going on and better graphics, though.

Re: NRS gameplay, the only thing that really bothers me is that almost every character has a teleport.

 

[That Dude John]

It's coming out in 4 months. What you see is what you get at this point.

Don't feed me logic.

 

[oneida]

Really? I haven't seen that once on GAF. Obviously that's bullshit since MvC3 has more going on and better graphics, though.

Re: NRS gameplay, the only thing that really bothers me is that almost every character has a teleport.

there are lots of examples in the last trailer thread. I'm out and about now but i can post some later

 

[CO_Andy]

it kinda reflects on how a lot of people care more about how their games look instead of how they play

what do you expect from a community who grew up on mastering the nooks and crannies of Japanese games by and large?

the types who play MK see it as a disposable game. beat it for the story and move on.

 

[Professor Beef]

what do you expect from a community who grew up on mastering the nooks and crannies of Japanese games by and large?

the types who play MK see it as a disposable game. beat it for the story and move on.

Me and my (former) coworkers loved playing MKX on our breaks.

 

[Karsticles]

there are lots of examples in the last trailer thread. I'm out and about now but i can post some later

Nah it's cool, I believe you. Thanks for clarifying.

 

[Xevren]

Really? I haven't seen that once on GAF. Obviously that's bullshit since MvC3 has more going on and better graphics, though.

Re: NRS gameplay, the only thing that really bothers me is that almost every character has a teleport.

I definitely get the teleport complaint, but there's not as many now in injustice 2. Some can get them as gear abilities but even then its far fewer than previous entries for what it's worth.

 

[mbpm1]

Ingrid grows tired of humans, ends the world.

I always knew anime would end us all

 

[Karsticles]

I definitely get the teleport complaint, but there's not as many now in injustice 2. Some can get them as gear abilities but even then its far fewer than previous entries for what it's worth.

Is there a list anywhere?

Injustice 2 seems to have a rather large cast - it takes time to go through everyone and figure stuff out.

 

[Xevren]

Off the top of my head here's what I remember. Darkseid, Scarecrow, Supergirl have teleports by default. I know cyborg and green arrow have access to teleports via gear, can't think of anymore but it's possible I missed some.

 

[Wallach]

Doesn't Robin have a Smoke-esque teleport?

 

[Xevren]

Oh yea, think his you have to have his trait to use right?

 

[Kadey]

Casuals at work, etc, like MK and the likes because of the fatalities and how realistic it looks. Anime and cartoonish stuff doesn't get their attention. And they think playing on a stick gives an advantage.

 

[Kalamari]

Personally, I'm excited to see the broken stuff from Injustice 2. We need another Justin Wong "welcome to the real world" video.

 

[CommandThrower]

Personally, I'm excited to see the broken stuff from Injustice 2. We need another Justin Wong "welcome to the real world" video.

The zoners in Injustice 2 will make that happen.

For a mild example, see Floe's encounter with this guy during the Injustice 2 online beta(kind of long).

 

[A Pretty Panda]

Are interactables unblockable like the first game

 

[CommandThrower]

Are interactables unblockable like the first game

Only really big objects like cars seem to be unblockable--all other interactables seem to be blockable. For the ones that are unblockable, they do significantly less damage then they did in the first Injustice.

 

[Karsticles]

When is the first fighting game event that includes IJ2?

 

[Wallach]

When is the first fighting game event that includes IJ2?

Not sure for majors, I know that they'll be at NLBC / WNF next Wednesday.

 

[Kadey]

NLBC is definitely the stream to watch come next week. Sonic Fox and a bunch of great Injustice players will be there. They are labbing it up right now as we speak getting early copies and all.

 

[ColonialHawk]

When is the first fighting game event that includes IJ2?

Combo Breaker

 

[Tripon]

Wavedash raises $6 million for its platform fighting game

https://techcrunch.com/2017/05/02/wavedash-raises-6-million-for-its-platform-fighting-game/

The background and the vision that the two men shared were convincing enough to bring on March Capital as a lead investor for the $6 million round. Additional participation came from Lowercase Capital, Advancit Capital, CourtsideVC, Machine Shop Ventures, Luma Labs, and Cherrytree VC.

“This money gets us through our launch window which is Q2 of 2018. We’re going to hit beta this year and launch sometime early to mid next year,” said Rice.

Wavedash is supposed to be that Melee/PM clone. I admit, I thought this was going to be nothing, but they were able to sucker $6 million from VCs, so at least they can eat for a while.

 

[Karsticles]

Wavedash raises $6 million for its platform fighting game

https://techcrunch.com/2017/05/02/wavedash-raises-6-million-for-its-platform-fighting-game/



Wavedash is supposed to be that Melee/PM clone. I admit, I thought this was going to be nothing, but they were able to sucker $6 million from VCs, so at least they can eat for a while.

Why do so many indy studios make characters that are lame Pixar-esque anthropomorphized animals? The Wavedash characters look so generic.

 

[Numb]

Why do so many indy studios make characters that are lame Pixar-esque anthropomorphized animals? The Wavedash characters look so generic.

Leave the indies alone. They are poverty within the poverty genre

All that's needed

Animal characters should be ignored like usual

 

[Dahbomb]

Why do so many indy studios make characters that are lame Pixar-esque anthropomorphized animals? The Wavedash characters look so generic.

They want to appeal to the Sonic Fox crowd.

 

[shaowebb]

Why do so many indy studios make characters that are lame Pixar-esque anthropomorphized animals? The Wavedash characters look so generic.

Because character appeal is something that not everyone can nail down via bodylanguage or costume themes. Karate guy, kung fu guy, cyborg guy, ninja dude...a lot of times these things just come off as generic and dont work for some folks during design. They just dont inspire the team to come up with animations that feel anything more than stereotype filler animations. Sometimes by using anthropomorphic characters it helps folks to not only open up their own creative juices for animations but it also makes it super easy for them to get a concept across visually in still shots. Anthros in Smash titles are a staple due to the Starfox game cast being so top tier in that community. Its a quick way to appeal to that group. Nostalgia for simple anthro cartoons or game mascots also makes anthro characters a simpler matter to get over with older crowds. And like I said...sometimes an animation idea is as simple as just making them act like an animal to add personality to an attack. For example instead of a divekick its a pounce or something.

Anthros have their uses in design and marketing. They make some things easier concepts to get across. They have a trade off like most concepts do. They will always seem more innocent and thus market more to younger groups or nostalgic older crowds looking for innocent characters reminescent to things they are familiar with. Fetishists will show up too of course, but if we're being honest here, unless you are pandering with overt sexual overtones in any game you should just realize that folks are gonna fetishize anything they enjoy online whether it is sexual in nature or not. Rule 34 is living proof of it so dont get worked up that "oh no the furries will be there" because even without furries a good game will likely have its creepers in its fanbase too.

 

[pizzacat]

is wavedash the new hearthstone expansion

looks like it

 

[Tripon]

Because character appeal is something that not everyone can nail down via bodylanguage or costume themes. Karate guy, kung fu guy, cyborg guy, ninja dude...a lot of times these things just come off as generic and dont work for some folks during design. They just dont inspire the team to come up with animations that feel anything more than stereotype filler animations. Sometimes by using anthropomorphic characters it helps folks to not only open up their own creative juices for animations but it also makes it super easy for them to get a concept across visually in still shots. Anthros in Smash titles are a staple due to the Starfox game cast being so top tier in that community. Its a quick way to appeal to that group. Nostalgia for simple anthro cartoons or game mascots also makes anthro characters a simpler matter to get over with older crowds. And like I said...sometimes an animation idea is as simple as just making them act like an animal to add personality to an attack. For example instead of a divekick its a pounce or something.

Anthros have their uses in design and marketing. They make some things easier concepts to get across. They have a trade off like most concepts do. They will always seem more innocent and thus market more to younger groups or nostalgic older crowds looking for innocent characters reminescent to things they are familiar with. Fetishists will show up too of course, but if we're being honest here, unless you are pandering with overt sexual overtones in any game you should just realize that folks are gonna fetishize anything they enjoy online whether it is sexual in nature or not. Rule 34 is living proof of it so dont get worked up that "oh no the furries will be there" because even without furries a good game will likely have its creepers in its fanbase too.

You know you say all that, and the designs for wavedash is generic Overwatch designs.

 

[pizzacat]

gotteem

i wonder how blizz confused people into buying their kickstarter tier game

 

[ThatCrazyGuy]

Those Wavedash designs are wack as hell.

 

[Karsticles]

You know you say all that, and the designs for wavedash is generic Overwatch designs.

What Blizzard puts out is the most incredibly polished versions of ideas from other companies - it's to be expected.

 

[mbpm1]

Seems pretty bland so far

 

[Tripon]

What Blizzard puts out is the most incredibly polished versions of ideas from other companies - it's to be expected.

Yes, but when people copy them without trying to either bring their own polish or aesthetics, it looks bad. Which is what the current Wavedash designs look like.

 

[Holy Order Sol]

Cycloid Gamma the GOAT

 

[Kalamari]

Is that Master Raven?

 

[Lemstar]

i guess overwatch is polished if the bar is set at launch d3

 

[Kadey]

You know you've made it when you win a big tournament and people in the crowd are crying. Mango went into god mode and beat Armada from losers.

 

[Dahbomb]

i guess overwatch is polished if the bar is set at launch d3

D3 still has polished game play and combat feel though. Better than pretty much every other ARPG.

Problem with D3 is the fundamental design not really the polish. They polished that design turd to the best of their capability.

 

[Wallach]

You know you've made it when you win a big tournament and people in the crowd are crying. Mango went into god mode and beat Armada from losers.

I had to head into town for Mother's Day stuff. I love my mother (and the other mothers in my family)... but I am salty as fuck that I missed this.

 

[Line_HTX]

That thing is seriously called Wavedash, hah...

😅😅

 

[CO_Andy]

ready your butts for 3 Smash games next EVO

 

[MechaX]

Man, Square needs to step their game up and actually fucking release Dissidia on PS4 so we can get Dissidia at EVO.

I for one welcome Exdeath mirror Grand Finals.