Fighting Game Wed. | Big Two, WNF | 2/1/2012

Yeah, nerf Morrigan. Let's not learn to deal with her and go ahead and keep Wesker's sunglasses mechanic, which causes more grief.

But no, nerf Morrigan. Because people like complaining.
 
Liston is turrible. Quotes is fantastic.

That mentality is why Sent isn't Big Poppa Pump anymore. I wish Justin Wong broke out his Wolvie instant overhead tech on Sent just a little earlier so the fools at Capcom saw that he wasn't too OP.
 
only thing that makes me mad about morrigan is that each of her fireballs have so much durability for how much you can spam them.
 
Steve... :(

At least he got second.
That's the farthest he's gotten in a good minute. I think he's respecting Doom Missles too much. I want him to just super as soon as he think Doom is out. Let a stray missile hit. So what. Just make Chris scared to call him out and limit Morrigan's zoning.
 
Quotes bringing the funny and bodying the fraudulent patch mentality. Best commentator status. Also, LOL @ liston's "But Firebrand needs it".

Steve doing the Sou Sou Shuffle was great. :lol
 
Nice stuff. I like the use of Morrigan to troll folks. Wouldn't Rocket Raccoon's Dig and Akuma Tatsu counter it though? Maybe we'll see some counter pick fun stuff soon. Hmm...for that matter is he low enough during dashes or any of his moves to go under soul fists? I haven't played enough to know.
 
Might as well rename it to Big 2 Frauds.

Why the fuck no one in NYC has tried to build a team to counter this mindless spamming bullshit is beyond me.

Here is a team I think would blow that fucking hoe up.

Dorm

Mags

Akuma

If someone in NYC is reading this please try it out.
 
Nice stuff. I like the use of Morrigan to troll folks. Wouldn't Rocket Raccoon's Dig and Akuma Tatsu counter it though? Maybe we'll see some counter pick fun stuff soon.

Morrigan isn't so much purely for trolling especially in this iteration. There will be stuff coming out for her, but damn if this character isn't awesomely viable for totally different reasons that the norm. It's one of the reasons why I feel so strongly against any sort of alterations to her play. Let everyone develop things to deal with her versus having Derpcom kill the character when she finally makes a splash.

Dr. Strange is a hard counter to the character by the way.


Might as well rename it to Big 2 Frauds.

Why the fuck no one in NYC has tried to build a team to counter this mindless spamming bullshit is beyond me.

Here is a team I think would blow that fucking hoe up.

Dorm

Mags

Akuma

If someone in NYC is reading this please try it out.

There's mad and then there's this. Holy shit.
 
That's the farthest he's gotten in a good minute. I think he's respecting Doom Missles too much. I want him to just super as soon as he think Doom is out. Let a stray missile hit. So what. Just make Chris scared to call him out and limit Morrigan's zoning.
Yeah, that was one my biggest problems for a long time. Respecting Missiles too much. Now I start to just ignore Hidden Missiles and just go in. I'd also say that Steven needs to use Deadpool's sj light guns more often. One stream of his guns goes through two Soul Fists, so he can clip Morrigan/Doom pretty decently

Although, I have a bit of a counterpick to that team myself(even though I have only encountered a couple people running Morrigan/Doom). Trish's Maximum Voltage has a hitbox all around her, meaning even Astral Vision Soul Fists/Hidden Missiles will not hit her at all. I'd run Trish/Dante/Morrigan for true counterpick status.
 
Liston commentating at BIG 2 or SCV on WNF...

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Might as well rename it to Big 2 Frauds.

Why the fuck no one in NYC has tried to build a team to counter this mindless spamming bullshit is beyond me.

Here is a team I think would blow that fucking hoe up.

Dorm

Mags

Akuma

If someone in NYC is reading this please try it out.

I ain't mad, but I don't get why people haven't made a direct counter either. Get some beams, get some air mobility, and get some cheap hitboxes to chase her down. Also, bring a horizontal projectile assist with decent durability/speed and whittle Doom down.

Yes it's easier said than done, but far from impossible.

People are too quick to give up in fighters now instead of actually thinking. Shoutouts to Quotes for the patch response.

Morrigan is GOOD, not broke. Never thought the day would come where that would be a sentence I used, lol.
 
Yeah, that was one my biggest problems for a long time. Respecting Missiles too much. Now I start to just ignore Hidden Missiles and just go in. I'd also say that Steven needs to use Deadpool's sj light guns more often. One stream of his guns goes through two Soul Fists, so he can clip Morrigan/Doom pretty decently

Although, I have a bit of a counterpick to that team myself(even though I have only encountered a couple people running Morrigan/Doom). Trish's Maximum Voltage has a hitbox all around her, meaning even Astral Vision Soul Fists/Hidden Missiles will not hit her at all. I'd run Trish/Dante/Morrigan for true counterpick status.
I have a theory counterpick team, but I haven't gotten a chance to try it out yet. It involves starting Ghostrider on point so everyone tells me I'm crazy, but I maintain that with the right team he is not as free to zoning as people think.
 
I have a theory counterpick team, but I haven't gotten a chance to try it out yet. It involves starting Ghostrider on point so everyone tells me I'm crazy, but I maintain that with the right team he is not as free to zoning as people think.
I could see it working, actually...

But on the subject of Ghost Rider... I don't play him(that often), but I get mad when I see people playing him on streams. WHY DON'T THEY USE THE HEAVY VERSION OF EAT CHANGE?! It's so damn good! I have seen it a grand total of like three times on stream. It boggles my mind.
 
Might as well rename it to Big 2 Frauds.

Why the fuck no one in NYC has tried to build a team to counter this mindless spamming bullshit is beyond me.

Here is a team I think would blow that fucking hoe up.

Dorm

Mags

Akuma

If someone in NYC is reading this please try it out.
I'm fairly certain MastaCJ's Dorm got blown the fuck up by ChrisG's team, IIRC.
 
I could see it working, actually...

But on the subject of Ghost Rider... I don't play him(that often), but I get mad when I see people playing him on streams. WHY DON'T THEY USE THE HEAVY VERSION OF EAT CHANGE?! It's so damn good! I have seen it a grand total of like three times on stream. It boggles my mind.
For zoning right? I agree, although it's pretty damn unsafe at the wrong distances and/or wrong assists backing it up, so I think people just get scared. I agree it's a damn good tool Ghost Rider players should be using more often though, especially when their chain normals whiff.
 
I have a theory counterpick team, but I haven't gotten a chance to try it out yet. It involves starting Ghostrider on point so everyone tells me I'm crazy, but I maintain that with the right team he is not as free to zoning as people think.

Problem is that jump s is at an angle, so stuff that covers a farther disance or that space above the chain will beat GR.


Anyways i didnst see people snap in doom (yeah hart to do) but the fact that makes Chris Gs bullshit be bullshit is Morigan +hidden missiles not Morrigan alone
 
There's mad and then there's this. Holy shit.

What the fuck is wrong with what I wrote?

If people in NYC just gonna let the spam go on week after week with no one smart enough to build a counter to it that is pretty fucking sad for their scene.

Take that sort of spam to West Coast and you'll see a counter to it within a week tops. I'm far far from a west coast dick rider, but I'm speaking the truth.

I ain't mad, but I don't get why people haven't made a direct counter either. Get some beams, get some air mobility, and get some cheap hitboxes to chase her down. Also, bring a horizontal projectile assist with decent durability/speed and whittle Doom down.

Yes it's easier said than done, but far from impossible.

People are too quick to give up in fighters now instead of actually thinking. Shoutouts to Quotes for the patch response.

Morrigan is GOOD, not broke. Never thought the day would come where that would be a sentence I used, lol.

Exactly, people need to stop hanging on fucking Capcom's nuts for patches and fucking simply think and try shit.

I'm fairly certain MastaCJ's Dorm got blown the fuck up by ChrisG's team, IIRC.

MastaCJ (Or, Masta Autopilot as he is being refereed to in the e.c) really is not the best demonstration of Dorm. Not hating on him since he runs his shit and wins. However, you got to be able to think on the fly and have the nuts to drop Wesker for Akuma.

Whatever, the point is. People need to stop asking for patches and think and create a counter team.

Look what happened when Justin got mad and created his counter to Sentential during early life MVC3 we ended up having one of the strongest teams being found in the whole game.
 
Problem is that jump s is at an angle, so stuff that covers a farther disance or that space above the chain will beat GR.
No doubt, but people need to stop spamming jump S against every match-up. It's not the right tool against every character. Sometimes it's just better to stay grounded, back him up with a good zoning or anti-air assist (or both), take advantage that he has a ridiculously far reaching low normal and snap-back, and remember that hell spike beats out a lot of projectiles (if not all, I haven't tested it out).
 
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