The hiring they were doing, it's likely not going to be sprites.
Most people I know have told me I should never teach anyone fighting games- would you want to learn technical boxing from Aoki from Ippo?
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The hiring they were doing, it's likely not going to be sprites.
Most people I know have told me I should never teach anyone fighting games- would you want to learn technical boxing from Aoki from Ippo?
I wonder how many people know I don't play at 100 percent online... lol
Having a low tolerance for delay based sucks
ThatCrazyGuy
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I don't agree going easy on somebody or soft-balling it is a good way to go. Giving pointers or analyzing why things were done and thought processes on why you made your decisions after matches are played is better (imo).
I remember learning street fighter and soul calibur, It was always play to win all the time with my friends. We would talk about it after the matches. Like, you kept doing this or that. Or why do you do this when this happens, or you should be using this move in this situation.
Even when we went to causal sessions with strangers, it was play to win, and talk about it later (for the ones willing to talk and give pointers).
And at work, we had some players who were not as good. Sometimes we would softball and they can could tell. They were like, fuck you. Play for real, lol.
I remember learning street fighter and soul calibur, It was always play to win all the time with my friends. We would talk about it after the matches. Like, you kept doing this or that. Or why do you do this when this happens, or you should be using this move in this situation.
Even when we went to causal sessions with strangers, it was play to win, and talk about it later (for the ones willing to talk and give pointers).
And at work, we had some players who were not as good. Sometimes we would softball and they can could tell. They were like, fuck you. Play for real, lol.
It depends on the games, when certain games were competitively built up on more subtle things like an insane compound of glitches or just speed of the game in general MvC2/Melee fit both of these, the worst part of learning is that because alot of things learned weren't intended or too fast, "What even happened = How did I lose" which is the worst part about learning a fighting game. Which is why more-so than dumbing things down in my opinion, I'm really grateful for the recent fighters that manage to keep depth while having great visual/other cues so that I can actually tell what's happening.
Some things even when going back on videos, you wouldn't even know how they did or how to even look for the information to do those things.
Yeah, I won't be the type that'll intentionally take damage or something dumb. I don't think that encourages people to work harder, since I feel all that does is make people content with how they're currently at in skill level. Plus it's a huge demotivator when people realize that you're doing it.
But I'll use my subs more than my mains on people that are still learning, since I think I'm able to benefit as well by approaching things differently. Usually people don't mind unless they specifically ask to play the matchup against my main. Just as long as people don't go random and play characters that aren't mains/subs, people generally are ok with it. (Plus I get to show off my fun Marvel 2 teams because of it lol)
Being on the other end of things, it was really helpful when I played socal smashers when they didn't use their mains. Even if I ended up losing to low tier characters, I felt like I was able to get more out of it compared to dealing with spacies.
The Last Emperor
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Smooth Operator
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Mike, Combo, Seth, Ultrachen, Zhi, generally in any combination.
Yipes X Chris Matrix Duo is Godtier. Prog is close to that.
Those are the only ones I actually yearn to see, other than that, I always prefer high-end player commentators over normal "professional" commentary. I know most the time people want to bring up people who aren't as familiar with fighting games with basic information, but every year I see this commentary and it ends up being so utterly "safe" that it just becomes circular and they end up saying the same things for the entirety to keep it to basics, and the hype is drained out of it. Player commentators that are successful, bring in first hand knowledge of the scenario, what kind of options are present, and what THEY could bring to the table which wouldn't otherwise be presented, also they experienced that tournament setting first hand, so they can see and bring the hype.
I think Prog is inarguable.
Any players that come to mind as particularly entertaining other than the mentioned Yipes/Matrix combo?
I think TKBreezy and EE? forgot his name, but they do frequent runs at Xanadu, aren't quite their yet, but are a fantastic combo and will probably grow to be pretty high tier some point.
Chris Hu and AquaSilk was kind of hit or miss, sometimes it was fantastic other times it would be too forced for me. RiP Team Rush Hour
Mike Ross and Combofiend, is pretty good allrounder, haven't seen it as much these days.
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ThatCrazyGuy
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I like me some UltraChen.
Leashed Zhi(SF, don't get him near anything else), Aris(anything, even games he know nothing about, I'd watch him commentate golf), Ultra David(Capcom games), Tasty Steve, Juicebox, Yipes and Seth. I also like it when top players get on the mic, Chris G or Justin commentating marvel is... Very interesting!
SKill is just so classic. Yipes and him is an epic combo.
Holy Order Sol
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TKBreezy is amazing, works well with various people too.
Aris for everything
This is the Jamaican that was doing commentary recently (NEC) right? I was trying to remember his name but I really liked what I heard from him. Dude is funny as fuck too.
.la1n
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David + James
Aris + Kayo Police
Yipes + anybody
Hell, Aris can do commentary by himself and I'll take it over anyone else.
Probably late on this, but as of yesterday here are the Apex 2015 singles registration numbers:
SSB: 63
SSBM: 442
SSBB: 49
Sm4sh: 251
lol @ smash 64 > brawl
Also, at this point, it seems kinda clear that the Melee community mostly isn't willing to give Smash 4 a chance, not even at its first major event. The Brawl community has largely left Brawl behind and are moving on to Smash 4.
Another fun fact: Bill Trinen of Nintendo of America retweeted this, and also tweeted about the event. Pretty cool!
SSB: 63
SSBM: 442
SSBB: 49
Sm4sh: 251
lol @ smash 64 > brawl
Also, at this point, it seems kinda clear that the Melee community mostly isn't willing to give Smash 4 a chance, not even at its first major event. The Brawl community has largely left Brawl behind and are moving on to Smash 4.
Another fun fact: Bill Trinen of Nintendo of America retweeted this, and also tweeted about the event. Pretty cool!
WesternHeretic
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Yipes + Matrix, S-kill + David, that's about it man.
God bless James Chen for the amount of work and effort he puts into the community really awesome dude, but I can't stand his commentary. I hate on Ski's commentary a lot too, but that just the commentary wise. I like Ski as a person, but I just can't stand his fucking commentary.
I love fighting games, but man I just feel like their so feel commenters that I like. When it comes to NBA, NFL, and even League of Legends I can name a handful I like, but FGC it's a small ass list.
God bless James Chen for the amount of work and effort he puts into the community really awesome dude, but I can't stand his commentary. I hate on Ski's commentary a lot too, but that just the commentary wise. I like Ski as a person, but I just can't stand his fucking commentary.
I love fighting games, but man I just feel like their so feel commenters that I like. When it comes to NBA, NFL, and even League of Legends I can name a handful I like, but FGC it's a small ass list.
Sounds about right.
Heavy ASW and slight Marvel focus in my input here.
Commentators:
Viscant covers both entertaining and informative really well for Marvel. I think he did UFGT top 8 last year with Tuboware and that was pretty rad.
Spooky's also a really excellent commentator; if he's not streaming it would be pretty cool to get him on for a shift or two.
Koogy probably does the best Guilty Gear commentary. Enough depth of knowledge, stays focused on the game at hand, good at giving the reasons behind things.
Klaige is also good for GG commentary and is a midwest guy, so it might not be too hard to get him.
Broadcasters:
I assume you mean this in the "guy running the stream" sense. Arturo Sanchez does a really good job with the TSB and 2old2furious streams; video quality is really excellent on the 2D stuff.
NobodyEXE and FunkyP have put in some good work with anime stuff in the past as well.
Good commentary duos: Ultrachen, Ultradavid + Aris, Mike Ross + anyone that's not Gootecks, Spooky + anyone, any 2 members of Team Pie, SKill + James Chen, Rush Hour
RIP
Good broadcasters: Team Spooky, Level Up, WGE (EU), Farpenoodle (Asia and has the best stream overlay)
QisTopTier
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Well then I hope nothing bad happens! I tend to post to vent.
Coffeeling
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Yeah, the game has that thing where almost everything just feels like it's how things should be.
I find it grounding to get thoroughly mauled every now and then. Good reminder of how far I've still got to go.
Letting them start offense is pretty big, usually you're 100% on defense against really good people.
Xian and serious Zhi probably. Ultradavid and S-Kill feels like it should be great but they'd be commentating SF4 anyway and Seth isn't very into that game and they tend to kind of step on each other's toes on commentary.
Though really, Melee almost always manages to have amazing, amazing commentary somehow.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
That's a shame
...wow. Good shit ArcSys.
ViewtifulJC
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Professor Beef alt confirmed
That's because it is
Karsticles
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Smash, anyone?
thats not EP you traitor