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Fighting Games Weekly | Feb 23 - Mar 1 | Radio Bryheem Presents: Kosmos
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sixteen-bit
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that would be a series first, right?
prize pot for the aganos challenge is now over $1000
if you don't know: cstyles is doing a stream (http://www.twitch.tv/cstyles45) for KI with new characters... started with omen
if someone beats him in a first to 3 set with the new character, they win the money. no one has won yet.
if you don't know: cstyles is doing a stream (http://www.twitch.tv/cstyles45) for KI with new characters... started with omen
if someone beats him in a first to 3 set with the new character, they win the money. no one has won yet.
Thomasorus
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Very simple: you can't run an event like Cannes only on SF4 and expect to balance finances. I know it as I was one of the past Cannes organizers.
This year they added Smash and Xrd for this reason, and KOF is a favorite game for many people in Europe that barely made it this year. For sure you could only do solo tournaments for small games but it's not enough to gather people at an event like this. So you run 5vs5 tournaments as it's basically free money, a way to earn more with the same amount of players. If you ask for more money from each player, you better deliver them with at least a stream. SF4 will be on the main stage all day saturday and sunday with his own 5vs5 and solo and this evening the top 3 of the 2vs2 tournament will be streamed.
Sometimes you'd better take a step back and look at the whole picture. Except maybe for EVO if they tried and sponsored event, SF4 is not a big enough game to be sustainable. You need other games to pool equipment, the rent of the place, etc...
Edit: about stream management and why they didn't put another stream. Cannes is in the basement of the Palais des Festivals so you can't run on 4G, almost no phone has network. And since it's a festival, they normally rent the internet: 1mbps upload of internet costs 1k€ the weekend. You need 3mbps for each stream so it's basically 9k€ just for the streams. Past Cannes events had an agreement so internet was free of charge for the streams, but the amount was fixed before the event started. And about wifi: limited amount of personal codes with authorized MAC adress of each phone/computer. France has very drastic/stupid rules regarding open wifi. :/
shaowebb
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Ken's on it twice. Number 1 at regular Ken and number 9 with Violent Ken lol. If he ain't in theres your DLC revenue.
theprodigy
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wait are the brackets for the other games at Cannes even up yet? all I see is Smash and USF4 (not counting team events)
Thomasorus
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Worse. But for SF5 they can't just redo the Vanilla arcade thing of putting SF2 cast + 4 new characters as people would say it's the same as before. It's a hard thing for Capcom actually.
DryEyeRelief
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That would be totally an NRS-esque move to make Ken DLC. You wouldn't spend nearly as many resources making the character and it would sell much more.
SloaneRisette
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Who won between Kosmos and Coach Steve?
JeTmAn81
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Kosmos, I believe 10-8. He kept pausing though, either because of a bad controller or nervousness. Steve didn't take any matches from the pausing.
SloaneRisette
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Damn, stay free East Coast.
SolarPowered
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Receptive if the newcomers and underused characters are done right alongside positive changes for the sequel.
SFIV has done the classics to death and then some. You best believe the hardcore fans will raise up a stink so bad you could smell it from outer space, though. I know this from watching MvC3 and UMvC3's releases. Not that I'm one to talk considering I still haven't gotten Xrd.
sixteen-bit
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SF5 New Generation-esuqe roster included in $60 purchase
Fan favorites $5 DLC a pop
lol so shady
link?
It certainly didn't help.
There were a lot of problems with the game- it was definitely a contributor.
KidA Seven
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SF4 2v2 should be starting very soon
http://www.twitch.tv/gameslines
Dieminion/Tonpy should be playing Sako/Xiaohai if there isn't an upset.
http://www.twitch.tv/gameslines
Dieminion/Tonpy should be playing Sako/Xiaohai if there isn't an upset.
I think identifying a single factor for the game's relative lack of success would be very difficult. I don't think you can remove it as a contributing factor, though.
anecdotal but I remember tons of kids at my school not wanting to play it because blanka wasn't in.
He doesnt "say" Ken isnt in, but him saying cant wait for your tears after someone replied to him hating Ken, a character with perfect attendance is really suspicious
link?
Neither do I. I think the first version of the game being an absolute shitshow did more damage.
Add in the decline of the arcades etc.
I don't think Capcom should mind who is receptive and who isn't. You don't create new fans of new characters without shaking up the roster a lot. Otherwise you fall into the trap that other fighting game sequels fall into where you can't change anything substantive due to your hardcore fans.
The weird/unfamiliar roster didn't help, but anyone claiming to not have interest in SF3 because X character wasn't in it, had no interest in the arcade experience, period. Arcades were on the decline and the 3D home console experience was on the rise.
Hell, it didn't help that most arcades in America didn't even buy the game. I never got a chance to get my hands on it until AE, and I'm sure that goes for most people in the US.
I personally feel the roster factor had an insignificant impact and modern Capcom's creativity is being hamstrung by that perception.
Hell, it didn't help that most arcades in America didn't even buy the game. I never got a chance to get my hands on it until AE, and I'm sure that goes for most people in the US.
I personally feel the roster factor had an insignificant impact and modern Capcom's creativity is being hamstrung by that perception.
If they are mod approved, then there is almost no reason to not trust them, because mod approved leakers have a pretty solid track record in here.
A track record of making vague statements to wind people up.
damn. RIP
SloaneRisette
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Didn't he say a bunch of bogus rumors regarding past E3's and Sony stuff?
Saying SF was going Sony exclusive was pretty straightforward.
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?p=134514761&highlight=#post134514761
theprodigy
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dude, even if they are approved it doesn't mean they're infallible
It's not a zero sum game. Make your own decisions, I'm just saying if you're not familiar with him (and it sounds like you are) you might want to be before buying into everything. You won't see me with a Knack/Verendus avatar though.
I have a real suspicion of the motives of "leakers" on the board. Suspecting their motives and not liking the way they leak things is different than saying "OMG THEY ALWAYS LIE."
Oh man that's awful
SloaneRisette
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Everyone knows the only real leaker is Lupinko
That guy was legit.
If they end up being true, then what does it really matter if they are vague or if they are intended to wind people up?
"almost no reason" is not me saying that they are infallible.
What is happening in France. Can't remember the last time I've seen a stream go this badly.
Yup. Most didn't even know the game existed.
Yup. Most didn't even know the game existed.
"God's Beard!"
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Nothing real about getting people fired
Never forget Ultimate-gate.
SloaneRisette
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I loved the initial rage over Rocket that turned to immediate love
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