It's pretty cohesive, IMO. Most of the game takes place in a high tech city, the other part in an uninhabited rural environment. FFXIII-2 is more all over the place though. Paradoxes and stuff.
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It's pretty cohesive, IMO. Most of the game takes place in a high tech city, the other part in an uninhabited rural environment. FFXIII-2 is more all over the place though. Paradoxes and stuff.
Not really. P4 is technically this gen and it's the best JRPG in existence I have posted no lies.
SpaceBridge
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I liked Lightning. Sad she wasnt much in
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FFXIII-2
saveweyard
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Half of the world (Cocoon) is high-tech, while the other half (Gran Pulse) is, as you say, a wilderness. It all blends pretty nicely together, though the mythology/story holding it all together is a bit weak.
I think the art direction of the series is one of the high points of the games, actually. That, and the music and battle system.
Zomba13
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At the end of the DLC, it basically just shows
Lightning and no one else.
Sazh, Dajh, Snow, Noel, Mog, Hope, Lightning (frozen), Fang (frozen), Vanille (frozen)
Team Nora is dead for hundreds of years by the time XIII-2 ends, and Alyssa dies when the paradox keeping her alive is finally corrected
Serah and Yeul both "live" in the chaos realm, trapped somewhere between death and reincarnation. It's also not clear if Caius is dead now, since Valhalla merged with the real world.
Zoe
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Wait, on that last part.
I thought the paradox that allowed her to be alive was Lightning's disappearance. She was supposed to have died during the purge.
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SkylineRKR
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Production costs of FFXIII-2 can't have been that high, its a cut 'n paste affair. I'm sure S-E takes another drop-off in consideration when it comes to XIII-3, so I'm expecting another by the numbers affair.
I do understand the hate here. FFXIII is one of the most forgettable numbered FF's ever, yet it most likely spawns another sequel. Add up that the great looking Versus XIII is being cock teased upon us for 6 years now, and still not here.
I do understand the hate here. FFXIII is one of the most forgettable numbered FF's ever, yet it most likely spawns another sequel. Add up that the great looking Versus XIII is being cock teased upon us for 6 years now, and still not here.
saveweyard
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I hope this is a game and not a movie or something. I need to actually PLAY as Lightning this time, and not just watch her do cool stuff.
I'm gonna get whatever it is day 1, though...
I'm gonna get whatever it is day 1, though...
Giolon
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Minor-spoilers (everything I'm typing here pretty much told to you near the beginning of FFXIII):
There are two "worlds" in FFXIII - There is Cocoon, the ultra-high tech society that is floating high above Pulse. Pulse is the (relatively) natural world with all manner of giant beasts and such roaming around down below. The two are more or less locked in a long term war.
staticneuron
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So you're saying that these "power of friendship" moments are okay in old games because of their primitive visuals? I feel like it's much more about the second point you brought up, which is that you're older and your tastes have changed.
Meccanical
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A paradox has prevented SE from doing what makes sense.
SE is trying way too hard to make Lightning a Cloud like character, except Cloud became a figurehead naturally from the game where SE has tried everything to shoved her in our faces over the last like 7 years, or however long it has been since FFXIII was first announced.
FFXIII/-2 battle systems was just a casual-ized, limited version of FFX-2's battle system essentially with less control.
FFXIII/-2 battle systems was just a casual-ized, limited version of FFX-2's battle system essentially with less control.
i don't understand why people endlessly praise cloud as a character and hate on lightning. i'm either crazy, or i'm not blinded by nostalgia. cloud has always seemed boring to me. lightning's character design and personality is cooler to me.
lightning's games have been lame though.
lightning's games have been lame though.
Meccanical
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THANK YOU
Finally somebody realizes it.
Granted even as good as X-2 battle system was it wasn't good enough for me to finish that shit
Deified Data
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Why do people still want Versus XIII when they know it's just going to score 7/10's across the board? Being generous?
Meccanical
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Review scores determine how much we like a game now?
Reviewers are trustworthy now?
NoirVisage
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Fitting, i feel this 100%
Deified Data
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Oh, it'll score 8's and 9's from the press because the FF name is stamped to it. I'm saying it's going to be a legitimate 7/10.
6 years.
Should have only been 3, but hey.
People want Versus because it's a new world with new characters with elements that call back to previous FF games.
brandonh83
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I'm saying they seem okay because there's a lack of presentation compared to a fully fleshed out CG movie. It's like written dialogue versus voice acting. A lot of people say that the lines are horrible in, for example, FFXIII. If the same lines were in the older FF games, I don't think people would be as hard on them and that could have something to do with bad voice acting. I know that Vanille would be a much better character IMO if I didn't have to listen to her obnoxious VA.
I think it has something to do with presentation and format. With a game, I'm usually having fun with it and the corny stuff doesn't seem so bad because there's a lot more to it. FFXIII-2 once again had a bad story and bad dialogue but I thought the gameplay and music was really good. With something like Advent Children, all you can do is watch, and that's a much different experience from playing a game.
Meccanical
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Better than FF XIII's 3/10.
someone is forgetting about final fantasy vii: dirge of cerberus.
But I want Thief 4 to come out.
I think the point is, is that given the assloads of information we have about Versus, it's clearly going to be the game of the year
SolidSnakex
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So could this be what Nomura meant when he said that he couldn't talk about Versus for reasons that weren't related to its development?
XIII had you controlling a robot.
Probably this and FFXIV, which is launching in Q1 and SE marketing is putting a pretty big focus on it.
Deified Data
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Point being, people are going to be just as, if not more, disappointed in Versus than the orignal XIII. If XIII was a sub-par RPG, does anyone expect Versus to be any better an action game?
Meccanical
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First of all, the game clearly wasn't finished. Second of all, how can you hate the characters already? Third of all, you don't have to use the damn turret.
If only FFXII had been delayed even more and they had gone ahead with FFXIII for the PS2, saving XII and all its awesomeness for 2008-09 or so.
Everybody would be hyped up about how Square Enix finally had their mojo back, and how those linear PS2 games are so stale now, and how they couldn't wait to see what SE would do next.
Toriyama would be left making Lightning-based monthly-subscription mobile phone sequels and nobody would be bothered by him.
(I'd pay full price for a FFXII remaster, for either PS3 or Vita, sight unseen, tomorrow.)
Everybody would be hyped up about how Square Enix finally had their mojo back, and how those linear PS2 games are so stale now, and how they couldn't wait to see what SE would do next.
Toriyama would be left making Lightning-based monthly-subscription mobile phone sequels and nobody would be bothered by him.
(I'd pay full price for a FFXII remaster, for either PS3 or Vita, sight unseen, tomorrow.)
It's not an action game. It's an Action-RPG, made by a team who've made very well received Action-RPGs in the past.
No its not, generation refers to hardware generation, P4 was last gen.
In a way, XII was a bit ahead of its time.
Dark Schala
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But I like Ezio more than Lightning... At least he grows as a character throughout the trilogy (in the middle of Revelations so no spoilers, plz).
Thank you. That's how I feel too.
Can't wait. Day 1.
xxczx
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Final Fantasy 13-XXX
OTPs: Lightning and Snow, Fang and Vanille, Sazh and Chocolina. NO LOVE FOR HOPE.
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