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Final Fantasy Brave Exvius |OT5| Our Golden Anniversary Brings Us Hope

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fionel

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Shouta said:
That is true but I dunno if the 4-star rates were the same as now though. We only know what they are now because of the fact they were forced to publish rates. They could have adjusted them as a part of that change.

Edit: I should go look for when they changed it in JP and see if I can remember which banners I went in on and came out with shit lol
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IIRC they started publishing the rates from Brave Frontier's 2nd banner and then made only 4* base come out from golds and 5* base from rainbows in the FF6 Trance Tina banner. I remember it very clearly coz I was in despair and about to quit the game after seeing how shitty the rates are in the BF2 banner, only to be revitalized in the FF6 event coz the crystal change gave me a truckload of units I've always wanted and never gotten (Almost shat my pants when I saw Refia! The good old days!)

The thing is, we just had our anniversary on Global where the most interest thing going on was the daily vortex where we had access to a lot of goodies and a Giancryst. JP is having the very same thing going on right now for no special reason at all and it's an even better version because it gives 3 of each Giancryst. That really undermines what was going on on Global because what is special to us, for JP its just another Monday.

Global had three 11 pull tickets, that's cool and all but a few months ago JP got 30 normal tickets + a guaranteed 5* for being well ranked on the store I think, it wasn't even their anniversary and that alone is better than anything we could ever celebrate on Global. That was right after they got that free pull where everyone, me included rerolled.

At the current state, JP rewards around 5k lapis and 20 tickets every single month on their content rotation. Their story events alone give 3k lapis every single time while ours give less than 1k when all quests are completed. I've been wanting to ask you, was it always like this there and if it wasn't on which event did their rewards get the boost?

Playing JP in its current state makes me feel like we are having an anniveraaey every single week between the ridiculous amount of lapis given on the events. You could say all of this will come to Global but I ask you, will they? Gumi nerfed our story missions from the get to go, why would I trust them to buff the future events to be as good as JP is currently rewards-wise?
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JP is getting all these daily specials right now because all the school kids are having summer breaks and a lot of people just had a week long public holidays. More time they can get ppl to spend on the game = more profit.

Those 30 tickets they gave out was an error on their part. The plan was to surprise everyone by giving out 20 + a rainbow ticket (compared to the usual 10/livestream) to celebrate getting the top spot on the app store but they accidentally gave out an extra 10 ticket. The producer has been begging users to forgive him for not being able to hand out more than 10 in the last couple months livestream presumably b/c of this incident lol.

I think it is a smart move for them to start giving away more stuff in JP as there are simply more units in the pool and as an oldie it becomes harder and harder to pull the units you want. Having more lapis/tickets and a better rainbow rate helps balance things out and keeps people like me around.

I wouldn't worry too much about GL if I were you as I think it would only be natural for GL to get to a similar playing field at the same point in its lifespan.
 
Shouta

Shouta

Member
Syntsui said:
I can only really comment on the current situation of both games and I believe when you say JP was probably pretty bad in its first year.

The thing is, we just had our anniversary on Global where the most interest thing going on was the daily vortex where we had access to a lot of goodies and a Giancryst. JP is having the very same thing going on right now for no special reason at all and it's an even better version because it gives 3 of each Giancryst. That really undermines what was going on on Global because what is special to us, for JP its just another Monday.
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I surmise that the daily vortex that's happening in JP right now is a summer campaign by them to capitalize on this time of year over there. They're trying to get more players in, keep older players engaged, speed up the progress of the population, and just getting folks to be engaged with it on a daily basis. It has to compete with the other behemoths over there in this period and in the upcoming holiday period for the attention of users over there so they need to do something.

I don't recall this treasure trove happening last summer though and the only other time was during the anniversary.

Syntsui said:
Global had three 11 pull tickets, that's cool and all but a few months ago JP got 30 normal tickets + a guaranteed 5* for being well ranked on the store I think, it wasn't even their anniversary and that alone is better than anything we could ever celebrate on Global. That was right after they got that free pull where everyone, me included rerolled.
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JP was celebrating a download milestone, sales ranking #1, and the 30th anniversary of FF as I recall. That's why there was so much during that period in July. They also have a bigger starter cache to entice new players. JP before this was the standard 1 or 2 pulls and that was it. That's why it was so much then. If you had started before July, you'd only really get the new player pull and maybe the 10 livestream tickets if you were starting around then.

Then there was the error too, lol.

Syntsui said:
At the current state, JP rewards around 5k lapis and 20 tickets every single month on their content rotation. Their story events alone give 3k lapis every single time while ours give less than 1k when all quests are completed. I've been wanting to ask you, was it always like this there and if it wasn't on which event did their rewards get the boost?
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Story event Lapis is new to JP about 3-5 months now, I think? It was the same as GL before then, about 1000 Lapis in total. I think it was around the time the S2 units started coming out but maybe fionel remembers better? Prior to that change and the 4-star ticket introduction, JP and GL rewards structure during each event were pretty much the same.

Syntsui said:
Playing JP in its current state makes me feel like we are having an anniveraaey every single week between the ridiculous amount of lapis given on the events. You could say all of this will come to Global but I ask you, will they? Gumi nerfed our story missions from the get to go, why would I trust them to buff the future events to be as good as JP is currently rewards-wise?
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There's no reason to doubt that those changes will come. I mean, GL has had more stuff and stuff come faster than it was for JP. It might not exactly be the same but it's going to come. Weren't folks talking about farming the story event with Xon and his rare up trait a few pages back? That's something JPs can't do at all, even now.

fionel said:
IIRC they started publishing the rates from Brave Frontier's 2nd banner and then made only 4* base come out from golds and 5* base from rainbows in the FF6 Trance Tina banner. I remember it very clearly coz I was in despair and about to quit the game after seeing how shitty the rates are in the BF2 banner, only to be revitalized in the FF6 event coz the crystal change gave me a truckload of units I've always wanted and never gotten (Almost shat my pants when I saw Refia! The good old days!)



JP is getting all these daily specials right now because all the school kids are having summer breaks and a lot of people just had a week long public holidays. More time they can get ppl to spend on the game = more profit.

Those 30 tickets they gave out was an error on their part. The plan was to surprise everyone by giving out 20 + a rainbow ticket (compared to the usual 10/livestream) to celebrate getting the top spot on the app store but they accidentally gave out an extra 10 ticket. The producer has been begging users to forgive him for not being able to hand out more than 10 in the last couple months livestream presumably b/c of this incident lol.

I think it is a smart move for them to start giving away more stuff in JP as there are simply more units in the pool and as an oldie it becomes harder and harder to pull the units you want. Having more lapis/tickets and a better rainbow rate helps balance things out and keeps people like me around.

I wouldn't worry too much about GL if I were you as I think it would only be natural for GL to get to a similar playing field at the same point in its lifespan.
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BF2 and FF6, that sounds about right. Man, I want another FF6 event especially since I'm going to play T-Edition soon.

And yeah, basically all of that and keeping the hardcore folks like fionel, myself, gromph, etc still playing is the reason for the increase over time. GL is doing it too already.
 
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Doctor_No

Member
I'm done whaling on my account, I hard pulled for Vertitas of Light on my GF's account, and it was absolutely painful.

Light Veritas drop rates must be incredibly low; at least anecdotally. It took around 5 banner rainbows to get her.
 
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fionel

Member
Shouta said:
Story event Lapis is new to JP about 3-5 months now, I think? It was the same as GL before then, about 1000 Lapis in total. I think it was around the time the S2 units started coming out but maybe fionel remembers better? Prior to that change and the 4-star ticket introduction, JP and GL rewards structure during each event were pretty much the same.
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Yes, JP was only getting about 1000 lapis for story events and a bit less than 3000 lapis for the main story missions prior this April. After the FF9 event with Beatrix we got a boost in story lapis from about 1000 -> 3000 and 3000 -> 5000 respectively. I felt like all my hardwork were for nothing but breadcrumbs back then too lol.

And right after that we got the rainbow rate change. So keep your hopes up GL folks!

BF2 and FF6, that sounds about right. Man, I want another FF6 event especially since I'm going to play T-Edition soon.

And yeah, basically all of that and keeping the hardcore folks like fionel, myself, gromph, etc still playing is the reason for the increase over time. GL is doing it too already.
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What T-Edition??
 
Shouta

Shouta

Member
fionel said:
Yes, JP was only getting about 1000 lapis for story events and a bit less than 3000 lapis for the main story missions prior this April. After the FF9 event with Beatrix we got a boost in story lapis from about 1000 -> 3000 and 3000 -> 5000 respectively. I felt like all my hardwork were for nothing but breadcrumbs back then too lol.

And right after that we got the rainbow rate change. So keep your hopes up GL folks!



What T-Edition??
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It's a Japanese fan patch of the game that's absolutely massive. Lots of additional content, fixes, costumes, etc. Here's some info on it in English but you can probably find JP info on it too. I'm gonna play and stream it, lol.

http://poematocx.com/ff6t/
 
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fionel

Member
Shouta said:
It's a Japanese fan patch of the game that's absolutely massive. Lots of additional content, fixes, costumes, etc. Here's some info on it in English but you can probably find JP info on it too. I'm gonna play and stream it, lol.

http://poematocx.com/ff6t/
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Oh neat. I tried playing Brave New World once. While it was tough and enjoyable things got way too difficult in the WoR and I had to stop especially after my save was wiped. If I ever find the time to play FF6 for the 19th time maybe I'll give this a shot lol.
 
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bonkeng

Member
Doctor_No said:
I'm done whaling on my account, I hard pulled for Vertitas of Light on my GF's account, and it was absolutely painful.

Light Veritas drop rates must be incredibly low; at least anecdotally. It took around 5 banner rainbows to get her.
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Did you whale for her on your account as well?

How many pulls did it take for your gf's account?
 
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Doctor_No

Member
bonkeng said:
Did you whale for her on your account as well?

How many pulls did it take for your gf's account?
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I did 60 pulls and I only got 1 wind Veritas, 2 Water Veritas, and no rainbows on my account. So no Veritas of Light.

On her account I did around 300 pulls and she got Lunera, Lunera, Trance Terra, Noctis, Reberta, and finally Light Veritas. So given the amount of rainbows it isn't really that bad, she also managed another rainbow on a 3* EX ticket (Marie). I'm seriously beginning to believe that rates are higher for some accounts and not mine; she already has two A2s, another Lunera, another Trance Terra, Dark Knight Cecil, and a Ramza on the last banner.
 
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tuffymon

Member
Shouta said:
It's a Japanese fan patch of the game that's absolutely massive. Lots of additional content, fixes, costumes, etc. Here's some info on it in English but you can probably find JP info on it too. I'm gonna play and stream it, lol.

http://poematocx.com/ff6t/
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Went and looked through all the stuff, that's some awesome changes, looks hella fun. Before the summer I did a livestream of going through 6 from start to finish in a sitting. I'd consider playing this again...
 
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bonkeng

Member
Doctor_No said:
I did 60 pulls and I only got 1 wind Veritas, 2 Water Veritas, and no rainbows on my account. So no Veritas of Light.

On her account I did around 300 pulls and she got Lunera, Lunera, Trance Terra, Noctis, Reberta, and finally Light Veritas. So given the amount of rainbows it isn't really that bad, she also managed another rainbow on a 3* EX ticket (Marie). I'm seriously beginning to believe that rates are higher for some accounts and not mine; she already has two A2s, another Lunera, another Trance Terra, Dark Knight Cecil, and a Ramza on the last banner.
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Rainbow rate on your GF's account is actually quite good, averaging at 1 rainbow per 50 pulls. Bad thing is, she got 5 straight offbanner before getting the banner unit.

And yeah, you should stop whaling on every single unit in the game. You'd still pull them offbanner eventually. I've pulled 3 Fryevia in the last month, all offbanner. She was my most wanted unit for a long time and have initially regretted not pulling for her during her banner.

It'll get worse for you since now you have 2 accounts to think off.
 
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Doctor_No

Member
bonkeng said:
Rainbow rate on your GF's account is actually quite good, averaging at 1 rainbow per 50 pulls. Bad thing is, she got 5 straight offbanner before getting the banner unit.

And yeah, you should stop whaling on every single unit in the game. You'd still pull them offbanner eventually. I've pulled 3 Fryevia in the last month, all offbanner. She was my most wanted unit for a long time and have initially regretted not pulling for her during her banner.

It'll get worse for you since now you have 2 accounts to think off.
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Yeah, I'm done hard pulling on my personal account outside of TMs and functionally crucial units like Ayaka until 3% rate up.

This month I got my 5th Tidus, 4th Fry, 4th Aileen, 3rd Reberta, 2nd DV, 2nd FV, not to mention a ton of other junk chasing Nier. I might just skip Prishe as well as I'll probably get her eventually once the 3% comes around.

If they do some pretty cool exclusive event I might hard pull, but for now I'll focus on my GF's account. But seriously, she is so far behind in awakening and catching up, her 2nd A2 isn't even awakened and she still has like 44k lapis on that account for future pulls. I'm pretty much set for awhile now, I might do some pulls on the upcoming Onion Knight banner for two Desche's Earrings for BiS builds but I might skip that as well.

What I am so far behind on in this game is ability enhancements. I'll be focusing on that for awhile along with catching up with TMs.
 
Muku

Muku

Member
[JP] Aiden's Robe - GET!

This is actually pretty exciting as this is the first TM I've gotten on JP. :) Love having it on my main on GL, so looking forward to it helping my healer on JP.
 
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Ninja Kn1ght

Member
Gumi's feeling very generous today!

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I might need some extra slots though.
 
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Rixa

Member
Gazillion non claimable moogles
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Summon banner:

Onion Knight 5*
Aria 4*
Desch 4*
Sara 3*

Double 4* banner
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KM event
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Story continues
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6h Maintenance
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Gil Turtle cave
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Not pulling. I have a feeling I will pull those goldies later anyways.
 
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crazyivan19

Member
Any info out there about the new esper? Looks like it replaces Ramuh for mages, yes?

I'll pull somewhat for bonus units and hope I get something useful, but I truly doubt I'll come away with anything but a couple Arias.
 
Alkez

Alkez

Member
Hmm looks like I can completely skip this banner which is nice. Will do enough mog runs for tickets and cacs. First mog king I won't pull at all.
 
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Rixa

Member
Ok. It seems there was rewards that had 1x Moogle / chest (in 2 chest)

[–]PotatoEgi
Nope, I claimed both too. Both of them had only 1 Moogle in them.

[–]ComeAndCatchMe
Same here Imgur:
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Too bad mine first one is the bugging.
 
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Rixa

Member
Vashetti said:
So guys what are the community rewards supposed to be for, the Engels raid?
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Yeah, BE Nier Facebook stuff.

Community rewards include:
- 1,000 total likes and shares: 100 Energy
- 3,000 total likes and shares: 200 Lapis
- 5,000 total likes and shares: 4-star Trust Moogle [5% all]
- 10,000 total likes and shares: 1 Rare Summon Ticket, 1 set of heavicryst

And you could also win a NieR water bottle, towel, or OST lol... Probably don't wanna claim that if you have a fake fb.
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indigo-cyclops

indigo-cyclops

Member
Is Desch GL exclusive? I don't recognize him from JP at all.

Finally a new MK event and story with esper. Been hoping for a new one for a while now!

I may do a pull or 2 just for the bonus units but I haven't decided yet. Tickets first.
 
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Euphoria14

Member
Exactly what was needed. Story missions for all that sweet lapis and MK event for those sweet tickets.

Hoping to get myself back around 5k Lapis and 30 tickets when all said and done. Not bad considering I was at zero and zero after Nier banner week.
 
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PantherLotus

Professional Schmuck
Update on my account's dailies and tickets since Friday:

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Pejo

Pejo

Member
Man, I've really been enjoying life with no Mog King event. I'll pick up the helmet and armor (it's heavy right?) That'll be our 2nd piece of heavy armor EVER with ATK on it.

I really don't want to pull on this banner. Definitely don't need OK or any of the other units. I might seriously skip most of the MK grind this time. I've finally been making some TM progress over the past few weeks, it'd be nice to continue that.
 
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across

Member
A reminder to anyone thinking of doing dailies solely (or even primarily) for bonus currency: step away from the summon button.

Most of the long-term players here should be around or a bit above the 150 NRG mark. ELT Mog King runs are 25 NRG a pop for 400 average currency. A daily summon, then, represents two and a half refreshes - at 150 NRG that's 15 runs of ELT, 6000 average currency. Someone more mathematically inclined than myself could work out whether additional runs would represent a significant upgrade in currency from bonus mobs vs. the reliable bonus currency. If your summon is Bedile and not Sara (80% chance of happening, per Oddsbitch) then you just wasted 6000 (+friend unit) currency.

If you want the units and you want the bonus currency, pull away. If you don't care about the units but you want bonus currency because you think it's going to save you time, well... everyone's shopping list is different, I suppose, so maybe it will, depending on RNG. Just be aware of what you're sacrificing.

For me personally the only unit of value here is Desch. I just got done dealing with trying to target a specific 4* unit on a split 4* banner (9S), which I succeeded at, not without considerable luck, after failing to do so on another (Ashe: 0, Rasler: 2).

I'm grabbing tickets, SQ, some of the gear and bouncing. Tired of getting sucked into idiot traps in this game. I'm sure I'll pull a Desch or six trying for Silvia in a month.
 
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Hippopuncher12

Member
Will do a single multi pull on the OK banner. Not expecting much, but if I can get a bonus unit or two that would be great. (Desch please) Anyway just used one of the tickets we got today for whatever reason we got them, and only pull on the banner. VoH. Nice!
 
indigo-cyclops

indigo-cyclops

Member
shintoki said:
Looking at the items for this Mogking

I think I'm just going to get tickets and cactur.
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Yea, I will get the exclusive gear just because ya never know but I'm not going nuts with this one. We'll see how the rates are.

Can't wait until they add 4* tickets and TM materia to these in global. They need some sort of injection to keep them enticing, for me at least.
 
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Zera_Bloodwinter

Member
across said:
A reminder to anyone thinking of doing dailies solely (or even primarily) for bonus currency: step away from the summon button.

Most of the long-term players here should be around or a bit above the 150 NRG mark. ELT Mog King runs are 25 NRG a pop for 400 average currency. A daily summon, then, represents two and a half refreshes - at 150 NRG that's 15 runs of ELT, 6000 average currency. Someone more mathematically inclined than myself could work out whether additional runs would represent a significant upgrade in currency from bonus mobs vs. the reliable bonus currency. If your summon is Bedile and not Sara (80% chance of happening, per Oddsbitch) then you just wasted 6000 (+friend unit) currency.

If you want the units and you want the bonus currency, pull away. If you don't care about the units but you want bonus currency because you think it's going to save you time, well... everyone's shopping list is different, I suppose, so maybe it will, depending on RNG. Just be aware of what you're sacrificing.

For me personally the only unit of value here is Desch. I just got done dealing with trying to target a specific 4* unit on a split 4* banner (9S), which I succeeded at, not without considerable luck, after failing to do so on another (Ashe: 0, Rasler: 2).

I'm grabbing tickets, SQ, some of the gear and bouncing. Tired of getting sucked into idiot traps in this game. I'm sure I'll pull a Desch or six trying for Silvia in a month.
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Thanks for this. Really needed a MK event as I'm in dire need of awakening mats. Better banners on the way and securing Ayaka imo is a must. I have to awaken Sea Breeze Dark Fina for my arena team (obtained from the 5* ticket while pulling for A2 during the hail mary), another Setzer for Setzer cheese, a second Ashe, Merc Ramza, and a second Victoria. Hope the grind without pulling a banner unit for the vent wont be too bad.
 
Alkez

Alkez

Member
Finally have some unit space so spent tickets going for Veritas. Literally nothing good. 1 yellow. Grace lol. At least I'll get those tickets back next week.
 
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NeoCross

Member
I'm going to start praying to RNGesus that I finally get a rainbow this banner and it's Onion Knight. I desperately need a 5* chainer. Gimu please.
 
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robotuw

Member
Nice rewards this morning (though I didn't see the 1 million moogle bug, did anyone successfully claim both community rewards?) 10% worth of moogles and I also just finished the week's expedition goals so a cool 15% went on to Snow in one sitting.

Yeah I don't want any of the FF3 units. Desch's TM is technically an upgrade to the bracer but I'd rather have 15% hp than 15 atk. No interest in farming for crysts this time but I do want the tickets and awakening mats. I'll get the event items too if they aren't ridiculous. Probably just spend a few tickets/dalies and hope for at least a Sara. Some of you better pull some OK's so I can benefit from them though! :p

Man, we get story too. These last 3 weeks have been fantastic for TM farming but I guess that's over now.
 
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