tiggerkiddo
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It's shadow/dark elemental.
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FINAL FANTASY Community Thread: XV Mainline Entries and Counting
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It's shadow/dark elemental.
BlazeBreak
Member
Doomsday is black magic, not blue
I think Flare's spell power is a bit higher. Doomsday, of course does attack all enemies, but it also damages your party members (and can't be reflected). You can equip your party with armor that absorbs or nullifies shadow-elemental damage, though.
Vivi's Water magic just... kinda fits in there, yeah. As a sorta mid-tier spell. It's his only water-elemental magic. You'll get the tier 3 -ga spells and then stuff like Comet, Flare, and Doomsday.
Quina's usefulness can depend a lot on whether you keep up with eating enemies. Right/soon after you first get Quina in your party s/he can learn some pretty damn useful spells, like Mighty Guard (casts protect/shell on your entire party) and White Wind (heals your entire party). And remember that Lv4 Holy is limited (since it only works on enemies with a level that's a multiple of four).
FFIX's my favorite game in the series (and well, favorite game period). The atmosphere, characters, and music's incredibly. Glad that you're enjoying it so far.
Now that I've finished Lightning Returns (posted a LTTP a couple days ago maybe I'll ride that momentum into playing through the rest of FFVIII Steam (had only made it through the SeeD field test in Dollet - 100%'d FFVII, but doubt I'm gonna do it with VIII given the min/max and ridiculous monster-killing achievements) and then let myself jump into another FFIX playthrough.
SuperChoco
Member
It's kind of funny; I bought Final Fantasy 3, 7,8, and 14 on PC for the somewhat low chance that 9
would be put on PC.
I think I'm running a fool's errand.
and 15
I think I'm running a fool's errand.
Doomsday is black magic, not blue
I think Flare's spell power is a bit higher. Doomsday, of course does attack all enemies, but it also damages your party members (and can't be reflected). You can equip your party with armor that absorbs or nullifies shadow-elemental damage, though.
Vivi's Water magic just... kinda fits in there, yeah. As a sorta mid-tier spell. It's his only water-elemental magic. You'll get the tier 3 -ga spells and then stuff like Comet, Flare, and Doomsday.
Quina's usefulness can depend a lot on whether you keep up with eating enemies. Right/soon after you first get Quina in your party s/he can learn some pretty damn useful spells, like Mighty Guard (casts protect/shell on your entire party) and White Wind (heals your entire party). And remember that Lv4 Holy is limited (since it only works on enemies with a level that's a multiple of four).
FFIX's my favorite game in the series (and well, favorite game period). The atmosphere, characters, and music's incredibly. Glad that you're enjoying it so far.
Now that I've finished Lightning Returns (posted a LTTP a couple days ago maybe I'll ride that momentum into playing through the rest of FFVIII Steam (had only made it through the SeeD field test in Dollet - 100%'d FFVII, but doubt I'm gonna do it with VIII given the min/max and ridiculous monster-killing achievements) and then let myself jump into another FFIX playthrough.
I think it's fantastic so far. Definitely going to be one of my favorite games ever. Can I go back later to get Mighty Guard? I did pick up White Wind.
Ah. I completely forgot about that as an element.
tiggerkiddo
Member
You will have opportunities to learn Mighty Guard later on. Consult a Faq about Quina's magic...I know the Gigan Octupus outside of Esto Gaza or the Ant Lion outside of the Desert Palace has the spell.
Vanille explains it after defeating Bart for in second time in Oerba.
That entry you mentioned only tells us what causes Etro to act.
badcrumble
Member
Flare's non-elemental in FFIX; I think it's only Fire-aligned in FFVII.
BlazeBreak
Member
Yeah, you can still get it. The first source was from Serpions (the blue-headed, green-bellied dragons in parts of the Mist Continent). But there's a few other enemies you can also learn it from, too - If you've run into Myconid (mushroom-like things) on the Outer Continent, you can eat them to learn it.
No she does not. That thing with the Cieth stone does not explain who Etro is.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
They never really explain Etro in either XIII saga or Type 0.
XIII saga it becomes a name prompt to move the plot. Or be a meaningless plot element. Type 0 the name is just minor lore and is truthful to the mythos.
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Flare should be non-elemental since it is overloading a tangible body of matter with energy and imploding said energy from within.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
I always view the Lightning Saga as a parody of the whole series. Or the GILGAMESH Acid Trip. But then again I called Dissidia and everything within it the GILGAMESH Acid Trip.
It does but you'll wish it didn't.
I think the story should just stay simple. Hereo's are summoned to fight the villains for Cosmos.
You do get some fun dialogue between the characters, though.
I wish there would be a third game.
I don't mind the convoluted story; it's not like it's taken incredibly seriously, and it at least gives the FF1 characters a little more presence.
And the dialogue is pretty fun
(the Lightning/Firion subplot being particularly cute)
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Unfortunately the only way for that to happen is make a Musou game and have Koei collab and make a Villain Dream mode. Since SE wanted to half ass it with 000 and few of the "Reports".
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
I've wanted a FF Musou for years. YEARS.
Yeah the dialogue is good. I kind of wish we had more between Squall and Laguna since I wanted to see how they interacted
Give me Seifer and Rinoa next game pls.
That would be really cool.
Ganon Dragmire
Member
Maybe if Hyrule Warriors is successful, SE will make FF Musou game
for phones
Her reason for doing the things she did during the finale is despair and feeling bad for the people were going to die so the entries do mention that.
A New Legend
The Goddess
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Yet didn't she condemn the MC's because they killed stuff which was against some sacred law Goddess felt needed to be enforced?
Yes, crazy and inconsistent I know
Just played up through Mount Gulug back to Lindblum in FFIX.
Man, I love this game.
Terra Homing. WOW. I did not see that coming. My jaw dropped. I feel bad for Eiko and Mog. That scene is yet another great use of seeding the chekovs gun in FFIXs story. Speaking of...
Hilda. Oh boy, Hilda. Very regal and charming. I love the scene of her making up with CID. How often do you see som I feel really adds to the characterization.
Anyway, I'm in the castle, so next time I play I have to go the meeting with Hilda.
Hilda. Oh boy, Hilda. Very regal and charming. I love the scene of her making up with CID. How often do you see som I feel really adds to the characterization.
Anyway, I'm in the castle, so next time I play I have to go the meeting with Hilda.
CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
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CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
Anyway. I'll take another Dissidia (not written by Watanabe, please) and an FF Musou, please.
tiggerkiddo
Member
You still have yet to get to one of the best areas in the game...
I bet. I loved the music at Esto Gaza and Mount Gulug, too. Really enjoying the soundtrack in general and I've never described myself as a big Uematsu fan.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
They probably didn't put that stuff in the game because they couldn't execute it properly to save their own ass. In which case they already failed.
PowderedToast
Junior Member
as someone who doesn't speak or understand Japanese, I 'm finding lightning much more likable in the JP dub of LR.
Ali Hillis always sounded too artificial and forced, and I don't think she interpreted the lines very well (perhaps not her fault).
Ali Hillis always sounded too artificial and forced, and I don't think she interpreted the lines very well (perhaps not her fault).
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Well Maaya Sakamoto is quite the celebrity.
I want to remember her as VA of Aerith, not Lightning.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Well now you can remember her as the VA of both.
CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
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CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
Pretty sure they do. But whatever.
Ha, I had no idea that Maaya Sakamoto voiced Japanese Lightning. I mostly know her as Aigis from Persona 3.
tiggerkiddo
Member
Alas, they brought back the Nutkin to XIV. I forgot, was it ever worth killing them? I seem to remember the gray ones giving you either lots of AP or money...
Did you get to Oeilvert yet? That's my absolute favorite segment in FFIX.
That place was cool, yeah! Tonight I played up to the Earth Guardian. That fight was tough, since I haven't really been using Quina. Other than that, I've taken Corvo's advice and I've been using Zidane/Dagger/Steiner/Vivi as my team. That's going pretty well. The team slays.
Story/spoiler stuff:
Absolutely loved Zidane finding Garnet, the conversation they have , and what happens after. Garnet has changed. It comes across in the dialogue and the CG scene of her cutting her hair is the perfect symbolism/icing on the cake.
Saved the game right outside of Shimmering Island, so that's next! Woo!
That particular Garnet scene was pretty stellar. You also feel that change on a gameplay level, since Garnet can FINALLY Magic again. It's a huge relief if you've been seriously using her. And yeah, the Zidane/Garnet relationship is absolutely fantastic.
You're shortly before the part where shit gets real!
I'm excited! Yeah, that trauma manifesting in the gameplay was a really smart design choice and I notice there's lots of stuff like that in FFIX. Having a character go through that at all is incredibly thoughtful. Nobody could've expected that from a game in 2000.
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
I copy and paste myself from the other topic, I think it also makes sense in this context anyway:
Anyone having a similar experience to mine after so many years?
I'd love another Dissidia, possibly on PS4/ONE...
Anyone having a similar experience to mine after so many years?
I'd love another Dissidia, possibly on PS4/ONE...
There are things I disliked about X-2, but I was and still am happy enough to have bought it day one. I somehow feel that the FFX ending was good enough for the Spira world to be left alone. So in that regard, it still bothers me, but from a gameplay perspective, the game is great.
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
I like how Spira really comes more to life in its sequel, especially with its focus on the other races. Also Yuna's journey is one of the saddest I've experienced in the franchise lol ~ loving her character here while I was not that fond of the original one. She's more natural now.
Also BROTHER... wtfffffffff ~