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[RedRedSuit]

you put v & viii in the same tier as xiii

you are a horrible person

V might be controversial. VIII is truly one of my, and many others', least favorite FFs. All in all that game makes me angry. They're all good games worth playing other than XI.

 

[Gravijah]

V might be controversial. VIII is truly one of my, and many others', least favorite FFs. All in all that game makes me angry. They're all good games worth playing other than XI.

insulting xi too?!

 

[RedRedSuit]

insulting xi too?!

Well, I put in quite a bit of time into that game. I think unlike many people who dismiss it I am at least qualified to comment on it.

 

[Dark Schala]

I want Crush 40 to do a theme song for an FF game.

I am being serious.

Hell yeah, man.

Okay, I'll stop being so silly. I want a Deen theme song or something similar, though. Using Bump of Chicken for Type-0's theme song was a step in the right direction. Even Otherworld and real Emotion were somewhat refreshing. FFXI's theme song is my favourite, of course, but I want something less... dramatic and ballad-y.

There aren't a lot of FF theme songs that I actually like, now that I think about it. I think I dislike the majority of them!

 

[Gravijah]

There aren't a lot of FF theme songs that I actually like, now that I think about it. I think I dislike the majority of them!

we're talking ff8 and after right and not main theme of ffvii, etc?

 

[Dark Schala]

we're talking ff8 and after right and not main theme of ffvii, etc?

Perhaps I should clarify and say "vocal themes". :lol

I generally like to separate both by saying "BGMs" for instrumental music and "theme songs" for vocal themes, sorry.

 

[Gravijah]

Perhaps I should clarify and say "vocal themes". :lol

I generally like to separate both by saying "BGMs" for instrumental music and "theme songs" for vocal themes, sorry.

i just wanted to make absolutely sure, just in case you needed your head checked! ;p

 

[Dark Schala]

i just wanted to make absolutely sure, just in case you needed your head checked! ;p

Hey. I'm nuts, but I'm not that nuts.

Does it mean that you don't like the vocal themes much either? :O

 

[Labadal]

Hey. I'm nuts, but I'm not that nuts.

Does it mean that you don't like the vocal themes much either? :O

Who does?

 

[Gravijah]

Hey. I'm nuts, but I'm not that nuts.

Does it mean that you don't like the vocal themes much either? :O

i love the ff8 and ff9 vocal themes, but i don't really like any of the others. maybe the one from crystal chronicles if that counts.

 

[RedRedSuit]

Stereotypical boring question:

- Favorite FF musical piece;
- Favorite FF battle theme.

Go!

(Mine = both FF VII battle music.)

 

[Professor Beef]

Stereotypical boring question:

- Favorite FF musical piece;
- Favorite FF battle theme.

Go!

(Mine = both FF VII battle music.)

Musical piece would have to go to Aeris' Theme.
Battle theme is a tie between the Dissidia remixes of FF8's Force Your Way and FF7's JENOVA theme.

 

[Gravijah]

on the subject of dissida remixes

ffiii - battle 2 <3333

 

[Dark Schala]

Who does?

A lot of people in my experience. :O

I had two friends who felt the same way as I did, so I assumed that we were in a minority.

Stereotypical boring question:

- Favorite FF musical piece;
- Favorite FF battle theme.

Go!

(Mine = both FF VII battle music.)

This is too hard.
I'll get back to you.

 

[Xux]

Ruins of Madain Sari for general music.
FFV Boss Battle for battle theme.

 

[Azuran]

V might be controversial. VIII is truly one of my, and many others', least favorite FFs. All in all that game makes me angry. They're all good games worth playing other than XI.

I agree. FFV terrible story makes the game such a drag to play. I can go days without playing because the game lacks hooks that makes you want to continue. VIII is a complete mess. I hate most of the characters, I hate the junction system, I hate the story, and the game is way to easy. At least it had good music.

I'm currently playing XI and I'm loving it so far. Being part of a good party makes the game a lot of fun. I just hate it when none of my friends are online because I have nothing to do.

Stereotypical boring question:

- Favorite FF musical piece;
- Favorite FF battle theme.

Go!

(Mine = both FF VII battle music.)

FFIV Lunar Subterrane
FFVIII Boss theme

 

[RedRedSuit]

I'm sure XI nowadays bears little resemblance to what it was like when I played, which was literally 10 years ago (or 8... something like that). However back then it was fun at first (really awful controls, but one got used to them) but quickly became a turgid mess. Vague quests... completely and utterly unsolo'able... one of the most intractable economies I've ever seen... just a horrible time sink with so little reward.

 

[ULTROS!]

Stereotypical boring question:

- Favorite FF musical piece;
- Favorite FF battle theme.

Go!

(Mine = both FF VII battle music.)

Hope you don't mind if I add some variety too:

- Favorite FF dungeon piece.

That said:

- Musical Piece: Where I Belong, Someday the Dream Will End
- Battle Theme: The Extreme, Blinded by Light
- Dungeon Piece: The Castle, Place of Memory

 

[Labadal]

Stereotypical boring question:

- Favorite FF musical piece;
- Favorite FF battle theme.

Go!

(Mine = both FF VII battle music.)

A difficult question as my opinion usually changes, but right now I will go with:
Final Fantasy VI - Mystiq Forest
Final Fantasy XII - Gilgamesh Battle Theme

And for dungeon music:
Final Fantasy IX - Oilvert

 

[Phatcorns]

Randomly wanted to point out that they ruined FFX's tragic, beautiful ending with FFX-2.

 

[Shadow780]

DAT Cloud pillow

 

[Dark Schala]

^OMG. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Really, SE? Really?

Back to the music... I'm going to edit this and edit this and edit this and edit this, but...

Musical Piece (which I take to mean in terms of compositional ambition): Dancing Mad

Battle Theme: Battle 2 (FFMQ), The Man with the Machine Gun, The Price of Freedom, Battle Scene 1 (FFII), Boss Battle (FFXII), Clash on the Big Bridge, The Decisive Battle (FFV), The Birth of a God, Battle 3 (FFMQ), J-E-N-O-V-A, Sabre's Edge, Nascent Requiem, Battle Theme #2 (FFXI), Battle Theme #3 (FFXI), Tough Battle, Paradigm Shift (FFXIII-2)

Dungeon Theme: Doom Castle, duh. Mountain Range of Whirlwinds and Lava Dome, too.

I'd like to add:

Character Theme: Hope's Theme (acoustic guitars and I mix very well; and the arrangement in FFXIII-2 is very Genso Suikoden-esque and I love it as well), Rose of May, Rebel Army's Theme, Elia the Water Maiden, Edgar and Mash/Coin Song, Caius's Theme, Yeul's Theme

Town Theme: Silence and Motion, Dance of the Balamb-Fish, Frontier Village Dali, Ruins of Madain Sari, Secret Library Daguerreo, Royal City of Rabanastre, Rabanastre Downtown, My Home Sweet Home, You Can Hear the Cry of the Planet, The Celestial Capital, Kazham, Rabao, Mhaura

World Map Theme: Crossing Those Hills, Main Theme of Final Fantasy VII, Main Theme of Final Fantasy IV, Main Theme [of Final Fantasy II], Eternal Wind

Field Theme (for FFX and onwards): Besaid Island (FFX), People of the North Pole, Giza Plains, To the Place of the Gods, Dust to Dust, Wandering on a Sunny Afternoon, The Sanctuary of Zi'tah, Flowers on the Battlefield, Parallel World (FFXIII-2)

Event Battle Theme (ex: think of those themes that play throughout the field you're exploring and transition into battles like Bombing Mission, Hunter's Chance, You're Not Alone!, Ambush Attack, Assault of the Silver Dragons, or The Landing): Followers of Chaos (FFXIII-2), The Landing, Assault, Assault of the Silver Dragons, Night of Seclusion, The Serpent Trench, Will to Fight, Run (FFXIII-2)

Chocobo Theme: Ukulele de Chocobo

Hah, I don't care if I'm cheating. It's difficult to choose a few themes based on the plethora of Final Fantasy albums out there! What an expansive catalogue. You have to make the categories more specific.

 

[beelzebozo]

was just discussing with a friend how effortlessly captivating and fun the opening of FF9 is. thought i would totally divebomb this thread by saying i think it's depressing how little of that has been captured since. i'm sure many of you disagree, but there it is.

 

[Dark Schala]

No way, I totally agree.

FFIX is my idealized interpretation of what Final Fantasy is, and what the series means to me in general. Most of what happens in that game hits my sweet spots just right. There hasn't been an FF game since then that made me feel that way. It's a little disappointing.

 

[ULTROS!]

I predict Cloud pillow husbandos in the future.

My ideal FF is something like FFX. Something wonderous or magical but at the same time semi-realistic and dramatic. FFVIII was close though.

 

[Styles]

That run track from xiii-2 and all of the character themes from that game slays me with every listen.

 

[ULTROS!]

Character Theme: Yuna's Theme, Celes

Town Theme: Kids Run Through the City Corner, Under Her Control, City that Never Sleeps. Anxious Heart

World Map Theme: Blue Fields

Field Theme (for FFX and onwards): Someday the Dream Will End, Besaid Island

Event Battle Theme: Infiltrating Shinra Tower?

Chocobo Theme:Event Theme: Coin Song. FITHOS LUSEC WECOS VINOSEC

Dungeon Theme+++: Find Your Way

 

[Styles]

Does FFIX slow down for anyone else in disc 4 for certain enemies and spells when you play it on the psp?

 

[Dragon]

Does FFIX slow down for anyone else in disc 4 for certain enemies and spells when you play it on the psp?

I believe it has problems on ps2 as well. It's probably the emulator.

Bar none the worst song is that absolutely silly Final Boss in FFX. I don't even know where to start there. I hold FFX in a certain regard, regardless of how weak some aspects of the game are, but that song is just ugh.

 

[Gravijah]

I believe it has problems on ps2 as well. It's probably the emulator.

Bar none the worst song is that absolutely silly Final Boss in FFX. I don't even know where to start there. I hold FFX in a certain regard, regardless of how weak some aspects of the game are, but that song is just ugh.

i take it you're not a fan of the daytona usa soundtracks.

 

[Xux]

I liked the Final Boss theme in FFX. Way better than most of the crap Junya Nakano wrote for the game.

 

[Dragon]

i take it you're not a fan of the daytona usa soundtracks.

I have never played Daytona USA.

I liked the Final Boss theme in FFX. Way better than most of the crap Junya Nakano wrote for the game.

I associate the Zanarkand song with FFX so phooey on Nakano .

 

[Dark Schala]

I have never played Daytona USA.

So... so... so... you've never heard ROLLING START or Let's go away?!

D:

I associate the Zanarkand song with FFX so phooey on Nakano .

.........

Soooooooo, when my friends and I were taking music theory/musical theatre (an actual class at our school... no, it wasn't like Glee)/choir/drama, we used to play around with the piano a lot. And, uh, we never wanted to play To Zanarkand because we just didn't like the BGM at all. The Piano Collections arrangement by Hamauzu is fine, but the original was boring to play.

And I like Nakano! Most of his good work is on Musashi 2 and The After Years anyway. His work on FFX's soundtrack is rendered kind of meh in comparison to those albums.

I wasn't too clear about what you were talking about. Otherworld? Uematsu composed that, and the extra percussion for the Braska Final Aeon was really damn cool. I had a friend who played the drums and loved playing that every now and then.

Decisive Battle, and Summoned Beast Battle (Nakano's best thing on that album) are brilliantly composed.

 

[Aeana]

I adore Nakano.

Pass Through the Forest
To the Ultimate Relic
The Bonds
Reunion
Rue's Finale
Holy War

 

[Amibguous Cad]

How has no one posted FFVI's boss battle theme yet?

 

[Rinoa]

So... so... so... you've never heard ROLLING START or Let's go away?!

When I went to the PLAY symphony which later morphed into FF Distant Worlds, Takenobu Mitsuyoshi performed 'Let's go away' live. It was awesome, a whole concert with songs from various videogames and then a Daytona USA surprise.

I felt sad that maybe a handful of people including myself knew the song amongst the audience though.

 

[Xux]

If they ever remade the PSX-era Final Fantasy games, what sort of perspective would you want? High quality pre-rendered stuff like in REmake and RE Zero? Static camera angles like in Valkyrie Profile 2 or the FFIV remake? Or redo everything have a controllable camera like FFXI-FFXIV do?

 

[Professor Beef]

If they ever remade the PSX-era Final Fantasy games, what sort of perspective would you want? High quality pre-rendered stuff like in REmake and RE Zero? Static camera angles like in Valkyrie Profile 2 or the FFIV remake? Or redo everything have a controllable camera like FFXI-FFXIV do?

Pre-rendered for me.

 

[Gravijah]

How has no one posted FFVI's boss battle theme yet?

if you're gonna post something ff related by s.s.h., then post this.

 

[Aeana]

If they ever remade the PSX-era Final Fantasy games, what sort of perspective would you want? High quality pre-rendered stuff like in REmake and RE Zero? Static camera angles like in Valkyrie Profile 2 or the FFIV remake? Or redo everything have a controllable camera like FFXI-FFXIV do?

I would prefer fully 3D, but I don't care about whether the camera is controllable or not. FF4 DS is fine. I just really want fully 3D story scenes with emotive faces and stuff. I've dreamed about that with FF6 for over a decade, and I'd like it for the others as well.

 

[sublimit]

If they ever remade the PSX-era Final Fantasy games, what sort of perspective would you want? High quality pre-rendered stuff like in REmake and RE Zero? Static camera angles like in Valkyrie Profile 2 or the FFIV remake? Or redo everything have a controllable camera like FFXI-FFXIV do?

Full 3D with controllable camera.I want to explore and feel immersed in the environments as much as possible.

 

[Gravijah]

replaying ff9 last year makes me want pre-rendered backgrounds. they're amazing.

 

[beelzebozo]

replaying ff9 last year makes me want pre-rendered backgrounds. they're amazing.

this is my jam. pre-rendered backgrounds are so awesomely detailed and cool. you're not going to go to 90% of the world in an RPG anyway, and background scenes are designed to set a scene, provide ambiance, to lend a sense of depth and reality to a place. if we imagine all technological and economic barriers are leveled, would it even be desirable to have an entire full-scale city rendered and navigable for the purposes of an RPG? maybe if that were the only place in the whole game, but to have 4 or 5 of these? it becomes untenable. you can't even play that shit! pre-rendered backgrounds are not only aesthetically better, as they allow for a greater amount of detail and mood in games that live and die by the feeling scenarios convey to the player, but they also provide a sense of scale without overwhelming you with superfluous options that muddy the experience.

 

[Aeana]

this is my jam. pre-rendered backgrounds are so awesomely detailed and cool. you're not going to go to 90% of the world in an RPG anyway, and background scenes are designed to set a scene, provide ambiance, to lend a sense of depth and reality to a place. if we imagine all technological and economic barriers are leveled, would it even be desirable to have an entire full-scale city rendered and navigable for the purposes of an RPG? maybe if that were the only place in the whole game, but to have 4 or 5 of these? it becomes untenable. you can't even play that shit! pre-rendered backgrounds are not only aesthetically better, as they allow for a greater amount of detail and mood in games that live and die by the feeling scenarios convey to the player, but they also provide a sense of scale without overwhelming you with superfluous options that muddy the experience.

I'm not necessarily following you all the way through. How would real-time rendered towns with fixed camera angles or with a limited area be different?

 

[beelzebozo]

I'm not necessarily following you all the way through. How would real-time rendered towns with fixed camera angles or with a limited area be different?

my immediate thought (though i know little about these things, so bear with the layman here) is that rendering those things in real time would be frivolous use of resources and also produce a background that is far less detailed. i could be off about this though.

 

[Labadal]

I'd love to see a FfVI remake on one condition, take advantage of Amano's artstyle. I'd die a happy man.

 

[creid]

replaying ff9 last year makes me want pre-rendered backgrounds. they're amazing.

I'm playing through Chaos Rings now which is all (very nice-looking) pre-rendered backgrounds. I think they're definitely due for a revival.

 

[Dark Schala]

replaying ff9 last year makes me want pre-rendered backgrounds. they're amazing.

A lot of the ones in FFVIII and FFIX are gorgeous. I love a lot of them.

Quite a few of them in FFVII like City of the Ancients, Aeris's House, Wall Market, the Gaea Cliffs and Mythril Mines are quite pretty and detailed too.

 

[manipulate]

Wall Market is sooo damn happenin'. Charming as shit.

FF8 had the most atmospheric prerendered backgrounds though. Garden, Dollet, Deling City, Timber, Esthar, Fisherman's Horizon.... <3 bro. Stylin' as fuck.

 

[Rinoa]

While FF7's backgrounds had an insane amount of details (only mentioned in the extra Intl disk) I loved FF8's backgrounds for the art direction.

this company did the bg designs
http://www.kusanagi.co.jp/art.html

I'd definitely want a completely 2D artstyle on prerendered backgrounds for FF6 because it's such a rich renaissance looking game, losing detail would really detract from the original feel of it.