HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
Did the daily change, or is that in an hour?
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Final Fantasy: Record Keeper |OT| The only ATB here is Active Time Battle.
- Thread starter Einbroch
- Start date
- Status
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
I assumed they reset the daily at 5AM pacific along with the free draws. Was hoping to get another gil run in. Spent most of the day today sacrificing pages and pages of garbage 1* tier to max out my 4* equipment.
I love the game but I can't see it as anything but a minor step up from your typical cash grab game with a final fantasy skin on top of it. Sure you can play through the game without spending any money but you will never have a chance with the elite dungeons.
These kind of games try and exploit people with addictive personalities and are not much different than a slot machine at your ordinary casino. Dare I say they are far worse as you don't have to leave the house and there is no money to win.
Look I would understand if you got the buster sword guaranteed with the $84.99 coin option but it's borderline exploration of an obsessed fan base to have it still be maybe at that point.
There are people out there with big problems with ocd and addiction and I just think that there should be some regulation on how these mobile "games" structure their business model.
Or maybe there isn't anything wrong with what they are doing but I would be hesitant to catorize it as a game. Of course I would love to hear others opinions on this.
Now back to playing this and treasure cruise.
These kind of games try and exploit people with addictive personalities and are not much different than a slot machine at your ordinary casino. Dare I say they are far worse as you don't have to leave the house and there is no money to win.
Look I would understand if you got the buster sword guaranteed with the $84.99 coin option but it's borderline exploration of an obsessed fan base to have it still be maybe at that point.
There are people out there with big problems with ocd and addiction and I just think that there should be some regulation on how these mobile "games" structure their business model.
Or maybe there isn't anything wrong with what they are doing but I would be hesitant to catorize it as a game. Of course I would love to hear others opinions on this.
Now back to playing this and treasure cruise.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
Yeah, the daily is running on midnight PST time.
So uh, how would you make money?I love the game but I can't see it as anything but a minor step up from your typical cash grab game with a final fantasy skin on top of it. Sure you can play through the game without spending any money but you will never have a chance with the elite dungeons.
These kind of games try and exploit people with addictive personalities and are not much different than a slot machine at your ordinary casino. Dare I say they are far worse as you don't have to leave the house and there is no money to win.
Look I would understand if you got the buster sword guaranteed with the $84.99 coin option but it's borderline exploration of an obsessed fan base to have it still be maybe at that point.
There are people out there with big problems with ocd and addiction and I just think that there should be some regulation on how these mobile "games" structure their business model.
Or maybe there isn't anything wrong with what they are doing but I would be hesitant to catorize it as a game. Of course I would love to hear others opinions on this.
Now back to playing this and treasure cruise.
Pinko Marx
Banned
I'm a chump.
Simple. You reach the $85.99 threshold (or something similar), you get all the new items that were introduced on the new content cycle. Rinse and repeat for when new content comes out.
If you go under that threshold you play by the same random chance for the items when you do the gacha roll. That way it sets a high premium for the fan that wants everything 100% but still let's others take their chances if they don't want to invest as much.
Let's just say the superannuation ends up coughing up $84.99 per new content cycle which is usually once a month. That's about $1000 a year in profit from those kind of fans.
The way it works now is that most of the revenue from these games comes from a small percentage that spend $200 or more a month. These are not rich ppl either. They are also ppl who have problems with addiction. You can't tell me that building your business model around an audience like that is any different from the ppl that run casinos or the lottery.
It is what it is but it is in no way in the same realm as videogaming that has always been around. Sure there are micro transactions but there is usually a limit to how much you can spend on them (with some exceptions like Forza)
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
Sounds like you're putting a ceiling on your potential revenue. Just handing out the most powerful pieces for a set amount becomes a huge problem in a social game if you ever want to implement something like a PvP because you then have 20% of your population that becomes unbeatable, rather than maybe 1% that spent an insurmountable amount of money. Essentially, you're forcing tiers into the game when you disallow spenders to face RNG.
This EXP day is very generous.
PixyJunket
Member
Why are the IAP prices for these types of games so hostile?
I thought, hey this is kind of fun, I can throw these guys a few bucks, let's see how much it costs to pay for an "11 for 10" draw.
$30.
Screw off with that, now I'll just play for free.
I thought, hey this is kind of fun, I can throw these guys a few bucks, let's see how much it costs to pay for an "11 for 10" draw.
$30.
Screw off with that, now I'll just play for free.
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
Now I have three 5* relics... All armor...
Genji shield, genji armor, and a dress. Come on mog!
Genji shield, genji armor, and a dress. Come on mog!
PixyJunket
Member
I think I'll wait until after the event ends to pull anything, the less Final Fantasy VII on my game, the more better.
nocturnedelight
Member
For people looking for Lesser Orbs but can't move on to Elite yet, here's what you can get from FFVI Normal. The parenthesis indicates what mission they dropped on when I started taking notes, but might not be limited to that mission:
-North Mines
nothing?
-Abandoned Mineshaft
Lesser Fire (2), Lesser Ice (2)
-Figaro Castle
Lesser Power (3), Lesser Lightning (3), Lesser Holy (2/3)
-Mt. Kohls
Lesser Dark (4/5), Lesser White (5), Lesser Non-Elemental (5)
-Imperial Camp
Lesser Earth (1), Lesser Wind (1)
-South Figaro Cave [sucks compared to Abandoned Mineshaft]
Lesser Ice, Lesser Fire
-North Mines
nothing?
-Abandoned Mineshaft
Lesser Fire (2), Lesser Ice (2)
-Figaro Castle
Lesser Power (3), Lesser Lightning (3), Lesser Holy (2/3)
-Mt. Kohls
Lesser Dark (4/5), Lesser White (5), Lesser Non-Elemental (5)
-Imperial Camp
Lesser Earth (1), Lesser Wind (1)
-South Figaro Cave [sucks compared to Abandoned Mineshaft]
Lesser Ice, Lesser Fire
I went ahead and made this. Useful if you want to stack a specific type of gear or easily get **** equipment without burning Mythril. I'll make a fancier version later.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12efL-9WKrn6i5RY08aIqFAfVSaGFJr19ptGWz0vxy9s/edit
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12efL-9WKrn6i5RY08aIqFAfVSaGFJr19ptGWz0vxy9s/edit
theMrCravens
Member
Yeah, if you're trying to save up 50 Mythril for max pulls and don't intend to spend $, farming and upgrading those 2* is the best thing right now.
Katana_Strikes
Member
I will never, ever throw such money away at these games for trivial, consumable items. I don't mind supporting games with the odd IAP here and there for a few quid but the ludicrous amounts they ask is very, very off putting and greedy. Fair enough if it was to unlock the game without needing stamina/coins/whatever, but not for something that's going to expire eventually again and you're back to square one.
Anyways, finished all the classic dungeons, tried the easiest elite and managed to finish it but with a struggle (and continue) so I'll level up my characters and equipment much further. Cloud is currently Lv22 my highest but most weapons are just low level stuff. Need to farm those rocks things for upgrades whenever those dailies come round again.
I went ahead and made this. Useful if you want to stack a specific type of gear or easily get **** equipment without burning Mythril. I'll make a fancier version later.
That's funny, I just got the Heavy Lance from the S.S. Liki mission, so you can mark that as confirmed.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I've played games with this exact struture too many times. But being a sucker for final fantasy, I am enjoying the game so far.
I like the idea behind the game. I like the presentation and audio. But I am assuming there will be a point where you sorta hit a wall where you advance at a crawl, because all of these games have that type of point in the game.
I like the idea behind the game. I like the presentation and audio. But I am assuming there will be a point where you sorta hit a wall where you advance at a crawl, because all of these games have that type of point in the game.
It's pay to win because you have to grind up to get stronger to defeat the elite dungeons?
Do you know what "pay to win" means?
/gaf
JoeyJungle
Banned
How do summons work? The widget on my iPhone says my next summon is available now. The game hasn't mentioned summons since Bahamut in the intro.
Katana_Strikes
Member
Rydia can summon Chocobo. It's complete shit and barely does any damage. I've not been able to create any other summon yet.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Summon Orbs are not being dropped yet, so you can't actually unlock any new summons, but Rydia's limit break is the Chocobo Summon. It's handy for all-enemy damage but if you're further ahead and have level 2 spells for Rydia, less useful at overall damage than those.
JoeyJungle
Banned
Thanks! I only started today and I've just been spamming the EXP dungeon, so I haven't unlocked Rydia yet.
Well if you're low level even with strong weapons/armor, it should still be difficult. I haven't gotten 5 star equipment yet though but I've got a few 4 stars and it's still rough at ~lvl20.
Steiner_Zi
Member
Can this game be played offline? I hate when mobile games require you to be connected to the internet because usually I bother play them only when I'm on the tube or on the plane.
Online only.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
I mean I also think the Elite dungeons will make more sense when there's more base content, because there'll be a more gradual ramp from late Classic dungeons to early Elite dungeons.
Provided you've beat all the levels in those doors, the only thing you're missing is the prompt that made it clear to you that you've beaten all the classic content and more levels will be added soon with preview images of those levels.
Provided you've beat all the levels in those doors, the only thing you're missing is the prompt that made it clear to you that you've beaten all the classic content and more levels will be added soon with preview images of those levels.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
This game is one of the most poorly optimized games on my Note 4 that I've ever played. Sluggish, laggy, nearly impossible to navigate menus...Fun, but annoying on nearly every level.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
I just finished all of the "classic" dungeons available at the moment, can't wait for more!
In the mean time I tried the first "elite" dungeon and got my ass handed to me. Stupid scorpion killing all my guys after I attack while his tail is down but goes up before the attacks go off.
I've been trading in my mythril for item rolls as I've been going along. No 5* stuff, but I did get 2 x 4* stuff and a few 3* equipment as well. I would probably pay to roll some more items if it wasn't so expensive.
In the mean time I tried the first "elite" dungeon and got my ass handed to me. Stupid scorpion killing all my guys after I attack while his tail is down but goes up before the attacks go off.
I've been trading in my mythril for item rolls as I've been going along. No 5* stuff, but I did get 2 x 4* stuff and a few 3* equipment as well. I would probably pay to roll some more items if it wasn't so expensive.
SymbiantXenos
Member
Completed all the classic dungeons so far. Wonder how long it'll be before they update.
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
April.
BJK
Member
Saving my resources for a 10+1 is a bit tough when you've hit a wall in the leveling curve...on the plus side, Sunday = EXP daily....so I'm just spamming the easy today.
Curious as to what level people are, especially if anyone has the normal EXP daily on farm status / auto-battle (the way I'm doing the easy right now).
Curious as to what level people are, especially if anyone has the normal EXP daily on farm status / auto-battle (the way I'm doing the easy right now).
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
You should be able to beat easy; normal is doable by the time you get to the end of the currently available main content. I can't imagine anyone being able to reliably pass hard.
D
Deleted member 20920
Unconfirmed Member
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Honestly, I wouldn't do either. 50 Mythril is basically the entire game right now. It makes way more sense to do some pulls and try to get meh-tier 3* or 4* equipment to be able to actually tackle the main game content than to save it all up just to get one item you promptly won't have any content to use it with. The Buster Sword is a good weapon and if you get it, great, but the only thing worse than a F2P game being ruined by a bad business model is ruining an F2P game by playing it in a way that's less enjoyable because of fear of the business model
I've leveled up a bit after beating all the classic story missions. Made some abilities and did a few rolls for equipment... Didn't get anything great but do have a few 4 and 3 star gear.
I've been slowly making my way through the elite dungeons. Seems to be going ok so far. Elites are hard but doable around lvl 25.
Waiting with baited breath for new characters. Really want Cecil and adult Rydia, among others.
I've been slowly making my way through the elite dungeons. Seems to be going ok so far. Elites are hard but doable around lvl 25.
Waiting with baited breath for new characters. Really want Cecil and adult Rydia, among others.
D
Deleted member 20920
Unconfirmed Member
Honestly, I wouldn't do either. 50 Mythril is basically the entire game right now. It makes way more sense to do some pulls and try to get meh-tier 3* or 4* equipment to be able to actually tackle the main game content than to save it all up just to get one item you promptly won't have any content to use it with. The Buster Sword is a good weapon and if you get it, great, but the only thing worse than a F2P game being ruined by a bad business model is ruining an F2P game by playing it in a way that's less enjoyable because of fear of the business model
Hmm. I think you're right. I guess I'll just make use of my mythrils whenever I want. If they're going to rotate and have special pulls with higher rates every now and then, that extra 1 pull from using 50 mythrils would actually be of much less consequence.
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
- Status
Similar threads
- Poll