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[MissDeviling]

People are calling me out for siding on the doom and gloom path, but we have no evidence to support your theory about things being more fleshed out either.

Square needs to get behind this real fast and explain themselves

Just from the very nature of being multiple entries means that the team can spend more time and resources to each game. Instead of rushing to finish a massive game in a single entry, they can take their time to meet realistic deadlines and flesh out what they can in each area. It won't be a single budget strained in one single instance, which may cause the company to be weary of the risk of putting all your eggs in one basket, but rather over the course of multiple games, which gives the company time to generate more money and fund them all healthily.

It's a much safer move by SE, and I think the entries will be better for it.

 

[the_sun_king]

Remember when Based Lord Nomura-sama said VersusXIII was a series of stories making up an epic saga? And then Clown Prince Pretender Tabata-kun took over and said NO IT IS ONE GAME! Now Based Lord Nomura-sama (Savior of Square Enix) will have his revenge!

........

Lol.

FFVII:R really IS Versus-XIII!

 

[Vire]

Why would Square even hint at this kind of information without having a press release ready? To gauge the waters? Watch the world burn?

I can't...

 

[ViciousDS]

That's a ridiculously lopsided split, though- Midgar is barely 10% of the game, remember.

The only way to split it in three and make it remotely even would be for part 1 to end 50-70% of the way through disc one and part 2 to end 30-40% of the way through disc 2.

They can (and probably will) rearrange some bits, flesh out some other parts, and add in entirely new stuff to make the pacing work regardless of how they split it, though.

If they do shinra tower 1:1 in scale.....it now becomes fucking huge. It all matters on scaling. Either way.....of this because the game is just too big why don't they just release it on 2-3 blurays......I would love to see multi disc games again due to scope

 

[enigmatic_alex44]

Hey Square-Enix, add a Season Pass to each part as well!

They'll still line up wallets in hands day 1!

 

[Thorakai]

To be fair, its not like this company has given anyone the benefit of the doubt when they can't even release one HD game in a timely manner. Now they want to break this up into multiple parts?

 

[entremet]

Needs to cleaned up with modern versions, but LOL

 

[Quonny]

Clearly you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about if you're even remotely considering this as "just news". In a video game industry where FFVII Remake are words that people have been whispering about for 10 years - and when it finally gets revealed and everything looks good, Square tells us this will be episodic content which honestly just doesn't fit a game like FFVII.

This is a reimagining. It's not the same game you played almost 20 years ago. The sooner you understand this the better off you'll be.

This is just news. The Witcher, Mass Effect, FFXII, and many other series are "episodic", and are not worse for that. In fact, all three got better and better, or at least improved in some areas. This could be the same situation. That's why it's "just news", because in no way is this guaranteed bad news.

You're just taking it as such and blinded by unjustified rage. That's ridiculous. Could it be shit? Yes. But the fact that you're legitimately so upset that you can't sleep over a single vague statement is absolutely insane.

 

[bryanee]

Episodic games are terrible....

No they're not. There have been a few good ones.

Anyway maybe people should calm down a touch and wait for a better explanation for this. Then if your fears are confirmed then freak out.

 

[HeelPower]

Remember when Based Lord Nomura-sama said VersusXIII was a series of stories making up an epic saga? And then Clown Prince Pretender Tabata-kun took over and said NO IT IS ONE GAME! Now Based Lord Nomura-sama (Savior of Square Enix) will have his revenge!

........

Lol.

duckroll is at it again.

This thread doesn't need duckroll brand of fuel lol

 

[Yoshichan]

Can we please, for the LOVE OF ALL THAT IS NOMURA, WADA OR WHOEVER THE FUCK YOU PRAISE ON THIS PLANET, STOP SAYING SHIT LIKE "This worked with Xenosaga, Telltale Games, Mass Effect, Portal, IDGAF.

FINAL FANTASY VII, is a COMPLETE package. The fans of this game KNOWS what to expect of it. VIDEO GAME SERIES like Xenosaga are games that have been 'episodic' from the get-go. You've got directors, writers, all that shit KNOWING that the game will be a trilogy or whatever. FFVII is NOT supposed to be divided like that. At least the FFVII we know and have played. At this point I don't even fucking know what game they'll actually provide.

I bet this piece of shit will have Genesis and that other shithead I don't care about.

 

[The Last One]

I still can't believe this is happening. =(

 

[laser]

Never said it was easy, just didn't have to involve colossally bad decisions like splitting into multiple parts, some of which will probably be delayed years apart from their predecessors. Seems like a really stupid move to me.

Again, I really hope they can prove me wrong on this, but I really doubt it.

I think the end of the game would have come out at the same if it was episodic or if it was in one chunk.

 

[Arkeband]

They're not really comparable, lol

I mean FF7's scope is super massive

There are so many setpieces

That's why the announcement was so exciting.

This would have truthfully been another turning point in video games on par with the original FF7 release.

JRPG's would literally evolve every time FF7 was remade.

The reason this news was so big was because everyone thought it was impossible and could never be done. Now we know it was too good to be true.

 

[Vincent Alexander]

This kind of attitude is so toxic.

Toxic. Yet sadly true.

 

[Lifejumper]

Thread reminds me of tabatas one button combat system comment lmao.

 

[User1608]

Or maybe I'm going to wait for more information. Hate to break it to you most in this thread upset will likely buy the game regardless.

Well, I've spoken up with my wallet before, so I'm prepared to do so again. I'll wait and see what happens from here on out. If it's as I fear, an attempt to maximize profits (per "part") over getting a proper remake, then I won't bother.

 

[muteki]

What if.... Every part is a full length JRPG with added scenes.. Will people calm down then?

Are you familiar with the term "filler"?

You know it'll happen.

This is giving me bad Shenmue vibes.

 

[texhnolyze]

The airship, Highwind!
How about Highwind? Please don't kill my Highwind exploration.

 

[Zukuu]

First they give us an utterly shitty game.
Then they give us a sequel to an utterly shity game no one asked for.
Then they give us a sequel to a sequel to an utterly shity game no one asked for either.
Then they remove one of the most interesting female characters and replace her with a blonde anime trope.
Then they alter everything about a promising game and replace the director.
Then they cocktease us with a FF 7 remake only to troll us.
Then they fucking hype us only to immediately remind us what a shit show of company they are.

At this point, I would have rather see Square going bankrupt and seeing the IP in the hand of people who actually like games and their player base and not only the color of their money.

 

[Kazuhira]

Yeah,kinda understandable considering how big the game would be if they're including everything from the original, like a controllable airship instead of a menu showing the locations from the world ala X or XII.
If they are trying to avoid removing stuff then fine by me,split the game.

 

[PhillipCostigan]

Clearly you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about if you're even remotely considering this as "just news".

to respond to what you said before you edited: people have been asking for it for 10 years, and for 10 years they've been saying no, because it would cost too much money and take too much time to develop

this is probably the ONLY way this project ever gets greenlighted. They would never, ever, ever recoup the costs of a dev cycle that needs the team size this project does and release it in a timely fashion. You have to understand what a massive game this is, and how much it would cost and how long it would take to actually release a remade version of it at the level that made your jaw drop when you watched that trailer the other day.

Relax, realise this is the only way you get a VII remake because it's financial suicide otherwise, and wait for more news before you kill yourself by overreacting.

 

[Boke1879]

Episodic games are terrible...FF7 didn't even need to be remade. Just release the original with updated graphics.

They did. Yesterday

 

[Skellig Gra]

What if.... Every part is a full length JRPG with added scenes.. Will people calm down then?

No because there is no conclusion to the story in the middle, it's just a hatchet job that is unsatisfying

 

[googly]

Perfect and exactly how I feel after hearing the news

 

[A-V-B]

The airship, Highwind!
How about Highwind? Please don't kill my Highwind exploration.

Hope you like cutscenes of the Highwind taking off from towns and landing in other towns!

 

[Ploid 3.0]

You know it'll happen.

 

[TheStruggler]

Neogaf be like

Square Enix executives be like

 

[delta_reg]

Looking back at when square made original FF7 and now how they're handling this remake it really shows they aren't the same company anymore. FF7 was as ambitious as it was grand, a crowning achievement and a huge budget risk for just one title with the self belief that it would all pay off, and boy did it. That's what the Remake should have been.

 

[Ran rp]

 

[somecrazymember]

Can we please, for the LOVE OF ALL THAT IS NOMURA, WADA OR WHOEVER THE FUCK YOU PRAISE ON THIS PLANET, STOP SAYING SHIT LIKE "This worked with Xenosaga, Telltale Games, Mass Effect, Portal, IDGAF.

FINAL FANTASY VII, is a COMPLETE package. The fans of this game KNOWS what to expect of it. VIDEO GAME SERIES like Xenosaga are games that have been 'episodic' from the get-go. You've got directors, writers, all that shit KNOWING that the game will be a trilogy or whatever. FFVII is NOT supposed to be divided like that. At least the FFVII we know and have played. At this point I don't even fucking know what game they'll actually provide.

I bet this piece of shit will have Genesis and that other shithead I don't care about.

This worked for Patapon

 

[enigmatic_alex44]

They did. Yesterday

You mean that half assed botched PC port with hideous blurring, messed up font and black bars at the top and bottom of the screen?

 

[braves01]

This remake looked perfect for tens of seconds, during the beginning of the new trailer. Then the action rpg gameplay was shown, and now it's episodic.

 

[Lonewulfeus]

So I bought a ps4 today because of trailer hype... Now thinking about just returning it lol

 

[Fjordson]

This kind of attitude is so toxic.

I don't think the idea that Final Fantasy is a shadow of its former self is all that radical / toxic.

If I'm wrong about this remake not being a disaster, then sweet! I'll certainly be overjoyed. But they don't get the benefit of the doubt by default. They'll have to prove me wrong.

 

[Vire]

First they give us an utterly shitty game.
Then they give us a sequel to an utterly shity game no one asked for.
Then they give us a sequel to a sequel to an utterly shity game no one asked for either.
Then they remove one of the most interesting female characters and replace her with a blonde anime trope.
Then they alter everything about a promising game and replace the director.
Then they cocktease us with a FF 7 remake only to troll us.
Then they fucking hype us only to immediately remind us what a shit show of company they are.

At this point, I would have rather see Square going bankrupt and seeing the IP in the hand of people who actually like games and their player base and not only the color of their money.

The Square Enix way... it's simply not the same company it was since FF12.

 

[ZombiePlatypus]

I can't. I fucking can't.

Yeah, theoretically they can delve into each portion and flesh it out so much that each episode or fragment of VII feels like a rich, content loaded, $60 full fleshed game.

Honestly though, I can't help but think they're gonna take what was once one, full, continuous, self contained experience, and tear it apart in a contrived manner across multiple episodes. I worry it's gonna feel like one collection of detached visits to VII's world that feel small scale.

Hold me GAF cause I'm about to quit everything.

 

[TheFlow]

Square can't even give us a release date for FFXV and they have the nerve to make a episodic game? I am expecting 2020

 

[GHG]

So is it like FFX & X-2 or is it more like episodic content?

 

[fengshuifever]

Well, unexpected but understandable.

I'd imagine that they're going all in on making Midgar as large as possible.
Calling it now, part 1 ends when you leave Midgar.

 

[Ishida]

You finally reach the Forgotten City, the ancient citadel of the Ancient Cetra. You descend into the underground and find Aerith kneeling in an altar, praying.

You approach her, and suddenly a black shadow descends from above, sword in hand.

Just as Sephiroth is about to stab Aerith, the screen fades to black.

"To be continued in Final Fantasy VII Remake, Part 5".

The screen changes to a promo screen.

"Relive the emotional moment of Aerith's death in the next episode! Open this link to go to the store and pre-order right now!"

Spoiler

Sorry, I just had to... I'm mostly joking on this one. Mostly.

 

[micster]

I'm confused as to why this is a bad thing. Would you rather wait and play the whole thing in 2017

Spoiler

or 2018

?

 

[LowParry]

Square can't even give us a release date for FFXV and they have the nerve to make a episodic game? I am expecting 2020

2016. And we're getting the date in March.

 

[Scoops]

watch it be $60 per episode.

FF13 - 1
FF13 - 2
FF13 - 3

FF7R - 1
FF7R - 2
FF7R - 3

Hope you all are ready to pay $180 for this.

Spoiler

My guess is each episode will be $40.

 

[SaintMadeOfPlaster]

Did anyone actually expect modern day Square to actually pull this off without some major bullshit?

 

[Benclank01]

Oh, geez.

Now, I don't think I would say "fuck 'em" to Square Enix because I still think they're in a long or a short way in the quest for comeback.
But making Final Fantasy VII Remake a multi-part episodic video game series? Geez!
I mean well...

I guess I can make some speculation, like maybe it's a three-part episodic video game series with the first episode coming next year and another episode coming in 2017 and another episode coming in 2018. I mean, can you imagine that! Ah, the long, long wait...

Well, let's just hope that Square Enix might do a 180 degrees on the episodic model just like what they did to Deus Ex: Mankind Divided for the pre-order bonus model that they get rid of two months ago and then they would say that Final Fantasy VII Remake is a full game.
Rest assured, there are things that makes us happy and there are things that make us disappointed. It's the circle of life.

 

[Yabberwocky]

Urrrrgh, my stomach fell through the floor when I read the thread title. As people have said, it suddenly does makes FFVIIR make more sense - I was baffled how they going so well adapting a game of such scale. There's so much story content in FFVII, let alone the scale of each of the locales the player visits. Common sense told me it was too good to be true, but I still hoped!

Also, they don't need to spend time adding content into an already huge game. We don't need Genesis, Nomura! FFVII is fine as it is!

You finally step out of Midgar and stare at the beautiful distance. A huge overworld stretches as far as the eye can see, rendered in perfect HD graphics. Your characters look stoic and prepared. Ready for a new adventure.

"To be continued in Final Fantasy VII Remake, Part 2".

FUUUUUUUCK.

Then you have to wait 6 months for the next episode. You finally download it, start it and...

Your characters immediately start at Kalm. You cannot leave the town. Cloud comments on how amazing it was to get there, to fight the monsters, to see the creatures, to see the hills and plains.

Biggest fear right there, absolutely. Losing the freedom and exploration would be such a shame.

 

[Vincent Alexander]

Or maybe I'm going to wait for more information. Hate to break it to you most in this thread upset will likely buy the game regardless.

Hate to break it to you, but we're still allowed to have negative opinions about this news even if we intend to buy the game.

Did anyone actually expect modern day Square to actually pull this off without some major bullshit?

Yes. And now I'm paying for my unchecked optimism.

 

[A-V-B]

You finally reach the Forgotten City, the ancient citadel of the Ancient Cetra. You descend into the underground and find Aerith kneeling in an altar, praying.

You approach her, and suddenly a black show descends from above, sword in hand.

Just as Sephiroth is about to stab Aerith, the screen fades to black.

"To be continued in Final Fantasy VII Remake, Part 5".

The screen changes to a promo screen.

"Relive the emotional moment of Aerith's death in the next episode! Open this link to go to the store and pre-order right now!"

Spoiler

Sorry, I just had to... I'm mostly joking on this one. Mostly.

Please, don't give them any ideas they don't already have.

 

[Lelcar]

I'm going to wait and see before I get outraged. This could be a solution for us to play this game within the next couple of years instead of waiting until the 2020s to get our hands on it. If it's like playing each original Final Fantasy VII disc as a separate game then I'm cool with that, that's whatever. If it's like a 12-part series then ehhhhh maybe not.