I... don't remember tank controls in the versions I played (PSX, PC, both original and Steam, PS4 briefly) so this is news to me!
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Final Fantasy VII Remake: Nomura Confirms Combat is Action Based
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I... don't remember tank controls in the versions I played (PSX, PC, both original and Steam, PS4 briefly) so this is news to me!
MeisterLeder
Banned
Good.
This isnt PS4 exclusive right? Just console first on PS4? But it will take anyway years to come out lol
This isnt PS4 exclusive right? Just console first on PS4? But it will take anyway years to come out lol
SliceSabre
Banned
Not shocked at all. Gamers and reviewers of today tend to look down upon turn-based combat and FFVII: RE would be panned for staying with it despite the original being turn based.
Note that I don't agree with this decision and I fully expect the gameplay of this to suffer for it.
Note that I don't agree with this decision and I fully expect the gameplay of this to suffer for it.
Console games aiming for global mainstream success have all been action-based as of late and will continue to be going forward.
Yeah, has to be said that FFVII's system, when you look back on it, is a bit tired.
I just trudged through the final section of the game on the train this weekend to finish it off. Cloud 4x cut his way through everything - in fact the only thing I did was physical attack practically. Most of the game I do that thinking back, it's just cost effective. The status materia feels like a turn wasted, ethers are expensive enough to make magic something I reserve for bosses only. Just X mash through the enemies until win.
I'm looking forward to a fresh take on VII.
Sad Affleck
Member
I'm out.
ethomaz
Banned
There is no tank controls.
Suburban Thug
Member
Because the original game is turn based? Because this is called FF7 Remake which can imply just updating the presentation? I don't think it's hard to see how some came to the conclusion that combat would mirror the original. I'm not going to throw a fit just yet but this was not some crazy idea to have.
Yeah, it's 8 directions of movement!
FFVIII was novel in being able to take advantage of the dualshock analogues.
Fbh
Member
Well I would have preferred turn based.
But if they to action it's good that it's going full action.
Way better than those games that try to combine both styles and end with a result that's not as good as either option.
At least the combat will turn out enjoyable, because I can't trust Nomura with anything else.
But if they to action it's good that it's going full action.
Way better than those games that try to combine both styles and end with a result that's not as good as either option.
At least the combat will turn out enjoyable, because I can't trust Nomura with anything else.
The Emperor
Member
Good VII of all the FF's would translate well to this combat.
As long as character switching is available we're all good.
As long as character switching is available we're all good.
Exentryk
Member
Napalm_Frank
Member
What year is this?
hydrophilic attack
Member
that's a tactics game, completely different
I guess you mean flashier. 12 has probably the best combat system in the series. 15 has one of the worst.
Gipsy Danger
Member
Ok. I don't see why that makes Turn-based an antiquated design. Loads of turn-based games do extremely well. FFXV was horrible and if that's what modern global mainstream games are then count me out.
stargateheaven
Member
World Of Final Fantasy is one of my favourite FF games and it's turn based. but hey, whatever.
just hope it's nt like ff15 combat.
and i agree to some extent some action combat games are boring. i doubt this will though.
i've been playing the original FF7 (PS4 ASS PORT) recently and it's still super fun.
just hope it's nt like ff15 combat.
and i agree to some extent some action combat games are boring. i doubt this will though.
i've been playing the original FF7 (PS4 ASS PORT) recently and it's still super fun.
Suburban Thug
Member
It might just be that I didn't game much during the PS1/N64 era. It's really weird playing without analog sticks and holding a button to run. Characters are clunky in my opinion but it's still an excellent game. I'm having fun but get stuck a lot because I don't know how to progress, haha!
If you made a teen who had never played FF7 before spend an hour with it they'd tell you it has tank controls.
hydrophilic attack
Member
that's...not the definition of tank controls
brotkasten
Member
I understand why they're doing it, but it's still annoying.
I have yet to play a party-based action RPG that had fun combat, with party members that did what they were supposed to do, not use crucial items because the lower one wasn't available anymore (no hi-potions in the inventory? LETS USE MEGA POTION!), did not stand in my way and did not need babysitting in any shape or form. It sucks and is not fun.
I have yet to play a party-based action RPG that had fun combat, with party members that did what they were supposed to do, not use crucial items because the lower one wasn't available anymore (no hi-potions in the inventory? LETS USE MEGA POTION!), did not stand in my way and did not need babysitting in any shape or form. It sucks and is not fun.
Gipsy Danger
Member
Tank controls have 2 directions of movement. Forward and back. With turning on the left and right.
Pandora012
Member
I don't think there are tank controls, maybe they are trying to use it with analog?
Flakster99
Member
I get it, but I don't like it. Not at all.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
It was a hope because ffvii is a turn based game. A turn based game that sold 10 million copies. It's not like turn based ff struggles to sell. Ff13 might've been 10 years ago but it sold over 6million. But I was hoping with a remake of ffvii they'd care enough about the game and its fans to maintain the genre. FFXVI is already going to be action, forcing that genre upon a remake is disappointing on a level I've never felt about a game
He said 'console games'
I say it's fair game.
pls don't mention XCOM 2 PC exclusivity for a spell
edit:
Wait, I think he's referring to the controls sometimes being rotated around to match areas/POV? Because yeah I think JRPGs with tank controls would be helluva weird.
| Praxis |
Banned
Huge bummer for me. Really hated the combat in XV, hope it's better than that at least.
I don't think it's antiquated design but I'm only one person and the people who make these decisions evidently disagree.
I also don't think we should judge FFVII Remake's combat based on what we got in FFXV. Different development team.
Also, has anyone just accepted the fact that action-based FFVII is what Nomura, the director of the game, wants? Was Advent Children not enough of a sign that he envisions FFVII to be action-based?
Dark_castle
Junior Member
While I personally would have preferred SE to keep the ATB combat in the remake, with enhancements and speed seen in X-2, full fledged action is cool too. Nomura knows his stuff from the excellent combat of KH2FM, so FFVIIR with that+character switching should be plenty of fun.
Suburban Thug
Member
Tank controls just means clunky and unweilding...
Acquiescence
Member
I'd love to see FFXVI revert back to a turn-based system, but I doubt it. Knowing how tone-deaf Square Enix can be, they'll probably make another go of setting it in an open world again to add salt to the wound.
hydrophilic attack
Member
well, i would have thought it being about rpgs was implied but you're technically correct, his post didn't implicitly mention that
Gipsy Danger
Member
Nomura can do whatever he wants. Doesn't mean I have to like it. If it's good then great but so far FF action combat has been poor so I'm being cautious about it until I see more. I would have preferred an ATB system.
It definitely does not.
No no, I see the issue here now. Tank controls mean a very specific thing as far as games go.
Not sure about that, being a turn-based movie would've made it actually interesting
Exentryk
Member
Combat being action doesn't mean it will be like XV's mess; unless of course you don't like action systems at all.
Personally, I'd prefer an action-based battle system done well. If I want the turn-based experience, well, I've had 20 years to play the original.
I'm an advocate for trying new things. I think as a fan of an old game I'd feel disappointed if the remake was just the same thing but with prettier graphics.
Linkstrikesback
Member
Bravely default has a metacritic of 85, while FFXV is 81 on PS4 and 84 on xbone.
I don't think this is automatically true.
Vincent Grayson
Member
Maybe I'm weird, because I thought 12, 13, and now 15 had the most fun combat the series has ever seen.
Gipsy Danger
Member
I'd prefer taking the REmake approach. It's basically the perfect remake.
Suburban Thug
Member
Ok everybody so I just looked up the definition of tank controls and it says:
This is according to giant bomb. I was wrong in using that term to describe the controls because I've always assumed it means clunky or unwieldy. What I'm trying to say is that as a first time player it seems to be awkward to control. I can only use the dpad on the version I'm playing (PSP classic via PSTV) and it just feels extremely dated (well duh).
This is according to giant bomb. I was wrong in using that term to describe the controls because I've always assumed it means clunky or unwieldy. What I'm trying to say is that as a first time player it seems to be awkward to control. I can only use the dpad on the version I'm playing (PSP classic via PSTV) and it just feels extremely dated (well duh).
Forget XV, you like KH combat? Chances are the remake will have a similar feeling
