It should be the girl that's right next to the warp in spot that gives you that quest. She's surrounded by sheep when it's raining.The Fragment of Invincibility is from Immortal, the requirements for the quest are: Defeat all three Gigantuars and speak to the Hunter outside the Chocobo pen in the Nomad Camp. If you decide to begin the side quest directly afterwards, you may need to exit to the Historia Crux and return to trigger Myta's request. Hope this helps!
guys what is this... I have the big cactus, but she will not talk to me....
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FINAL FANTASY XIII-2 |OT| Change the Future
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jimmypython
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Next issue of famitsu will feature an interview with Nomura. Although mainly for the upcoming KH3D, it is still possible to have some info for VersusXIII...(Press conference please..)
Hype.
cj_iwakura
Member
Good GOD, they weren't joking about the Paradox Ending fight with Caius at Oerba 200.
DAMN.
DAMN.
R_thanatos
Member
the paradox fight in chapter 5 are much harder .. A dying world caius paradox i managed to beat him by SAB a lot and wound him so that he wont recover all his lfe all the time.
cj_iwakura
Member
Clock puzzles are the devil.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Might as-well post my impressions of the game - starting everything of by saying wow.
I hyped the living crap out of this game so I was pretty much setting myself up for a disappointment. It's not. Although the gameplay is slightly worse than its predecessor, I find everything in XIII-2 a lot better. Caius is a villain I hated at start but grew to love and now he's one of my favorite FF-villains (his theme song helps a lot!). Speaking of music, I was really expecting the soundtrack to suck but boy was I wrong. This isn't hyperbole, I swear: I think it's the best soundtrack this gen - no joke. Every theme song is REALLY good and the fact that almost every "overworld"-song has two versions of it makes it brilliant. I love every part of the soundtrack.
Needless to say, I found the ending interesting - but I also love these types of endings. AMAZING game, didn't disappoint at all. A GotY-contender without a doubt.
edit: I also loved the clock puzzles for some reason...
I hyped the living crap out of this game so I was pretty much setting myself up for a disappointment. It's not. Although the gameplay is slightly worse than its predecessor, I find everything in XIII-2 a lot better. Caius is a villain I hated at start but grew to love and now he's one of my favorite FF-villains (his theme song helps a lot!). Speaking of music, I was really expecting the soundtrack to suck but boy was I wrong. This isn't hyperbole, I swear: I think it's the best soundtrack this gen - no joke. Every theme song is REALLY good and the fact that almost every "overworld"-song has two versions of it makes it brilliant. I love every part of the soundtrack.
Needless to say, I found the ending interesting - but I also love these types of endings. AMAZING game, didn't disappoint at all. A GotY-contender without a doubt.
edit: I also loved the clock puzzles for some reason...
If Versus doesn't have any sort of showing soon, I'm more worried about Lord Nomura-sama saving himself, before he saves anyone else.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
I've just been giving my SYN (Yakshini) health so that he can buff the crap out of the group without needing to heal
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Immune to provoke too, right?
If Versus doesn't have any sort of showing soon, I'm more worried about Lord Nomura-sama saving himself, before he saves anyone else.
Versus was announced 6 years ago right?
I was in bloody junior high when it was announced. I'm in university now, and pretty soon i'll be living on my own.
Fffffffffeh.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Yeah, magic doesn't seem to effect their casting, so it makes sense to give them health.
cj_iwakura
Member
Yeesh, how many times did it take any Lightning buyers to get her crystal? I'm coming up on 20 tries and NOTHING.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Got a 610/610 (?) on my second try <,<
It's to the point where I'm not even that excited for Versus anymore. It's practically the Duke Nukem Forever of JRPG's. There's no guarantee that it will even be good! And even if it is, does it justify such a long wait? I sincerely doubt it. So silly that for all these years we are riding a hype train based on merely assumption provided by a very narrow set of details. AFAIK, it's basically a Kingdom Hearts 1 + FF hybrid. Might prove to be crap, might prove to be amazing, might just more or less be a HD Crisis Core. I don't know. I do know that I didn't like Kingdom Hearts much when I played it on PS2.
The best thing about Versus so far is without a doubt the art and overall style, imo. It reminds me of FFVII, in a good way. But that alone does not make a good game. I'm sure the OST will be amazing as well.
I love XIII-2, and while I haven't had much time lately to finally finish it, I think it's getting too much hate. That said, I can't pretend that Square-Enix hasn't made a lot of mistakes over the past few years. It's very troubling. FFXIII was far too streamlined, did way too much hand holding, and, to me, reeked of being incomplete despite taking so long to come out. FFXIII-2 is selling like crap, probably because so many people were turned off by XIII. People are starting to lose faith in Versus not only being good but actually surfacing. It's just all quite silly.
Frankly, if Versus gets delayed yet again they might want to consider making it a first-gen title for Xbox 720/PS4... I used to say that jokingly but it might actually be a good idea now.
The best thing about Versus so far is without a doubt the art and overall style, imo. It reminds me of FFVII, in a good way. But that alone does not make a good game. I'm sure the OST will be amazing as well.
I love XIII-2, and while I haven't had much time lately to finally finish it, I think it's getting too much hate. That said, I can't pretend that Square-Enix hasn't made a lot of mistakes over the past few years. It's very troubling. FFXIII was far too streamlined, did way too much hand holding, and, to me, reeked of being incomplete despite taking so long to come out. FFXIII-2 is selling like crap, probably because so many people were turned off by XIII. People are starting to lose faith in Versus not only being good but actually surfacing. It's just all quite silly.
Frankly, if Versus gets delayed yet again they might want to consider making it a first-gen title for Xbox 720/PS4... I used to say that jokingly but it might actually be a good idea now.
cj_iwakura
Member
I really haven't seen XIII-2 getting much hate, outside of backlashes to the insane ending.
I enjoyed XIII anyway, so YMMV. I'm fairly confident Versus XIII is coming. I just don't know when. But that last trailer implies they've at least got a good idea of where it's going, and the gameplay does look fun(assuming it stays that way).
Also, god that trailer looks good in HD.
I enjoyed XIII anyway, so YMMV. I'm fairly confident Versus XIII is coming. I just don't know when. But that last trailer implies they've at least got a good idea of where it's going, and the gameplay does look fun(assuming it stays that way).
Also, god that trailer looks good in HD.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
That's probably because no one played the game
RedAssedApe
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R_thanatos
Member
just finished the secret ending ...
The game is a solid 8/10
Would have been a 9.25/10 if they just stopped at
If not for that part the game has been trully enjoyable... not perfect but enjoyable.
NOw all i'm missing is "big hitter" for my plat
The game is a solid 8/10
Would have been a 9.25/10 if they just stopped at
Serah death .. She would have been a tragic heroine , caius would have fought for what he believed after seeing countless yeuls and noel might have gone on a journey to find "his" yeul ... Cocoon would had been saved ..everything would have been perfect ..and they still could have done another game afterwards if they wanted ...
If not for that part the game has been trully enjoyable... not perfect but enjoyable.
NOw all i'm missing is "big hitter" for my plat
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
If they stopped at "that", like you suggest, the plot would turn incoherent at best. The entire game you're told what will happen if you do a "certain" thing, and you say it'll be better if while telling you that at every turn, in the end the ending itself should've just ignored that to give you a cheesy happy ending?
I'm glad they did what they did. That ending was so good for me that justified all the crap that came before it.
I'm glad they did what they did. That ending was so good for me that justified all the crap that came before it.
R_thanatos
Member
i though the point of travelling was to prevent that "certain" thing to happen..
it's why they travel.. prevent a castastrophe and a bad future by preventing an unprepared fall of cocoon.
I mean the future was already in "death mode" since the start ( otherwise noel wouldn't be there ) so i'm asking for them to change this.
The future is dead , so if you act the future is dead ? If you do nothing , caius ( throw cocoon at the ark , or cocoon fall by itself ).. i fail to see a story where everywhere you go ,everything you try lead to the same result.
And ending games on such a note without a real chance that we get a end ( or sequel ) is something that disapoint me a great deal.
And ending games on such a note without a real chance that we get a end ( or sequel ) is something that disapoint me a great deal.
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
Maybe you didn't get the plot, but
they weren't trying to protect the Goddess, just to save the people of Pulse from the fall of Cocoon. That's exactly what they achieve, thanks to changing the future they help Hope creating a new artificial Cocoon where people from Pulse can seek repair. And they do, they save the future and the people with it. There's one little problem in there: Caius had other plans. There are pratically two endings mixin' up in there, the good one with Serah's dying where the new Cocoon and the people in it still lives - basically the reason why the journey started - and the one that follows where Chaos spread out from Valhalla - something no one expected and so no one tried to evade. What's bad about this? It's bad just if you don't want XIII-3 I guess.
cj_iwakura
Member
I honestly think after playing Sazh's DLC that (ending spoilers)
this really is an Empire Strikes Back ending, and we've got one awesome Return of the Jedi esque finale coming up. Things are really dark now, but many events still imply(if not outright say) that there is still cause for hope. Nothing is over yet.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
You should be able to get it when trying to the Long Gui (debuff, buff).
I guess thats how it was planned, but with the super shitty sales ...
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
"Shitty sales" should be around 1,5 million worldwide, I don't think they have any problem letting a secondary team develop XIII-3 while being busy with more important projects. You know, Tri-Ace is always there to give an hand.
R_thanatos
Member
Well i got it ..debuf , buff weren't enough .. i had to use 3 powerwrist to get a +30% strenght
Well what i am referencing is the first part of that plot ...And as you said it's achieved in this game ..the second part with caius was presented and explained too but it's a dumb move to give me the choice to forgive him or not if i'm forced to watch the rest afterwards.
For me the caius parts were "just ok" i enjoyed them more trying to prevent a bad future.Caius having other plans is obvious ... I didn't say that it was bad in that sense ...just that they didn't cut it properly IMO ( if they plan to do a sequel )
The state they were ( full of hope ) after caius death was too much .. and serah dying after witnessing the next future was IMO perfect .. however the 20 seconds afterwards were unnecessary (IMO) it wouldn't have been a good ending anyway because ( lightining ? snow ? fang & vanille ? , etro ? new protector ? ) everything is in a mess. i wouldn't count that as a good ending at all.
For me the caius parts were "just ok" i enjoyed them more trying to prevent a bad future.Caius having other plans is obvious ... I didn't say that it was bad in that sense ...just that they didn't cut it properly IMO ( if they plan to do a sequel )
The state they were ( full of hope ) after caius death was too much .. and serah dying after witnessing the next future was IMO perfect .. however the 20 seconds afterwards were unnecessary (IMO) it wouldn't have been a good ending anyway because ( lightining ? snow ? fang & vanille ? , etro ? new protector ? ) everything is in a mess. i wouldn't count that as a good ending at all.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
To change those 20 seconds in the ending all the plot related to Caius' should've been different though. And Caius is the best thing in that story...
R_thanatos
Member
Why change ? Just cut it and use it afterwards if you plan to do a sequel..
i'm not asking for a change i'm asking for them to leave it for later that what they should have done IMO.
Anyway what's done is done..i just think it's bad to leave people on such an impression ..at least there is the to be continued but still ...
If they cut and then use it afterwards, we'd get dozens of pages full of "retcon garbage!"
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Has anyone else noticed the song playing in the Colosseum (The Book of Prophecies) is very similar to Bjork's All Neon Like?
Check it out:
Book of Prophecies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2j1yUGCQZY
Bjork: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ilSJvY928-Y#t=27s
Every time I hear the song in the game I keep thinking I'm going to hear the beat from Bjork... lol. The backround ambience stuff is very similar.
Check it out:
Book of Prophecies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2j1yUGCQZY
Bjork: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ilSJvY928-Y#t=27s
Every time I hear the song in the game I keep thinking I'm going to hear the beat from Bjork... lol. The backround ambience stuff is very similar.
R_thanatos
Member
Not really you might want to fail to get a easier one but it changes randomly.
Final boss fight question:
edit: Well, nevermind that. I wasn't using wound potions at first and didn't have a paradigm set up properly... this is a tough battle. Need to level a COM role just a bit more...
I get owned by Tetraflare every time. WTF? How do I even survive this?
edit: Well, nevermind that. I wasn't using wound potions at first and didn't have a paradigm set up properly... this is a tough battle. Need to level a COM role just a bit more...
Edvardelis
Member
I was going to say, it got me the first time as well. Wound Potions + 3x Sentinel is what you do.
So does that mean that we get to fight and recruit Bjork in our party too? Awesome.
Tribes of Trusty
Member
I've played a couple hours and...I think I like it way better than its predecessor.
It's like Assassin's Creed all over again (which I immensely enjoyed the 2 compared t the first I loathed)
It's like Assassin's Creed all over again (which I immensely enjoyed the 2 compared t the first I loathed)
jimmypython
Member
Just bought Jihl Nabaat DLC. file size is 16MB.
She is tough! She can summon various monsters including a behemoth and use multiple stats attacks; Her special move is strong too..I am still in the battle now....I think it's gonna be a long fight...
update1: My RAV/COM/RAV+ RAV/RAV/RAV are useless. Her stagger gauge moves super slowly...
update2: err..I'm dead.....have to put some serious thinking on the strategy for it.
edited to mention: my party members are lv 99 (all roles) Noel+Serah, lv.13 Lightening, lv.99 gold chocobo and a lv.45 SEN monster..
I thought it might be at the same level as Lightning DLC so I didn't pay much attention. It turned out I was totally wrong..
She is tough! She can summon various monsters including a behemoth and use multiple stats attacks; Her special move is strong too..I am still in the battle now....I think it's gonna be a long fight...
update1: My RAV/COM/RAV+ RAV/RAV/RAV are useless. Her stagger gauge moves super slowly...
update2: err..I'm dead.....have to put some serious thinking on the strategy for it.
edited to mention: my party members are lv 99 (all roles) Noel+Serah, lv.13 Lightening, lv.99 gold chocobo and a lv.45 SEN monster..
I thought it might be at the same level as Lightning DLC so I didn't pay much attention. It turned out I was totally wrong..
Nabaat DLC video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jegsRbQH31w
Nabaat in a fight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5nxpGfHLpE
(courtesy of gamefaqs)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jegsRbQH31w
Nabaat in a fight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5nxpGfHLpE
(courtesy of gamefaqs)
Tribes of Trusty
Member
Is it possible to entirely complete the game on your first playthrough ?
Combat Clinic (SAB/MED/MED) works well, too.
I need to, as I said, level a little more and get a ton of potions and phoenix downs.
StoppedInTracks
Member
Err... yes? You can Platinum it on your first playthrough. There aren't such things as playthroughs in this game as you can visit every location every time you want and play it again.
Also some things activate only post-game.