Yes, It's all about the SE ID, a.k.a your game's login and password.
Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn - Beta Phase 3 Impression: Phase 4 August
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Yes, It's all about the SE ID, a.k.a your game's login and password.
So if I have a 1.0 CE SE account, I can null all of that?
And if I want to play on ps3, I just buy the regular edition?
Right, since you need to the key with the PS3 version to link your PSN and SE accounts.
Boss Man
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Well I mean it's not really ironic. Obviously what people want is new models that are good.
I understand, but that's subjective.
Thanks. I think I understand now.
They totally do. I was super confused reading this: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/61990-FINAL-FANTASY-XIV-A-Realm-Reborn-Purchase-Questions
And I guess I misunderstood some things from those answers. A different SE person (Hvinire) came back multiple times to answer more questions and it was just getting more and more confusing as the thread went on.
Xux
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Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Feeling particularly stupid today. What does this chart mean? I'm probably gonna have 2 characters I want to alternate between... but does that mean I'd have to have them on 2 separate servers at the £7.69 price or... sign up to a half a year block to enjoy that discounted price? Uhhhhh.
The monthly price is what the month is worth if you pay each month, 3 months, or 6 months in advance.
Since you want to have 2 characters, for whatever reason, then you should go for a plan that is any but the Entry price, which only allows you to have 1 character per server.
So you could choose to pay monthly at £8.99 per month, or if you pay 6 months in advance you'd pay £46.14 in total, which comes out to be £7.69 per month which is roughly a 15% discount. Paying monthly during 6 months would work out as £53.94.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
But if I didn't mind having my characters each on separate servers (the world names right, Ultros, Cactuar, etc?), I could get by on entry?
Yes, if you choose the Entry plan, you get less characters, but also get the 15% discount per month as you would if you had paid 6 months under the Standard plan.
Teletraan1
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EDIT: Beaten.
Well, from what we've seen so far, the summons in XIV are essentially very miniature versions of the primals:
Ifrit:
Titan:
There is a thread on the Beta forums about trying to make them a *little* bit larger, but a dev post replied saying they are remaining the same size for now.
They look perfectly fine at that size. Any larger and they might become intrusive to yourself and other players. A few hunter pets in wow are way too big that they end up covering up that bad stuff your melee shouldn't be standing in making it harder for them. Large pets are unnecessary other than some short lived coolness factor.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Well thats alright then, I'm not some MMO fiend that needs 6 characters all on the same server to switch out to depending on the day of the week. Will just have separate friends lists I guess!
This is probably my first MMO other than PSO and Vindictus which don't really count. World just really grew on me, and seeing different gorgeous places in that lighting engine has enough of a pull on me.
I had heard on the Square forums, that the quick and easy short term solution to this problem, would just be to make the AoE indicators larger than the actual area affected, to hide the lag, like many other MMORPG's do.
They may have to resort to something like that, if they can't iron that out a little before launch. Hopefully they'll just be able to solve it straight up however.
Boss Man
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Oh, neither did I! That is great, because I was considering additional slots just for alt characters and/or friends on other servers. That works out perfectly for me. No need to have them on one server once I figure out what I want to play.
On that topic, I've decided that Hyur Midlanders have the best overall stats by far. I like playing big characters like Roegadyns, but I don't think I'd be able to take them seriously in the story. Highlanders seem like the obvious compromise, but I don't like how lopsided they are towards melee and also how they don't have freaking eyebrows! I'm so torn right now.
Probably gonna either end up on a Hellsguard or a Midlander. Midlanders have better stats both physically and for mages IMO, which is weird. Also, a Midlander would let me become immersed in the story a bit.
On the other hand, I think playing a big Hellsguard feels awesome.
That's realistically the only way they can fix the problem, because even if they tidy up their netcode, there will be someone in Australia, Argentina, South Africa, etc, suffering of latency issues.
I could see them doing something like that unfortunately. I hope they work on fixing the actual lag then trying to band-aid it. Even if "hides" the issues with the AoE circles, it wouldn't fix the other problems (like delayed damage/healing).
Then there's the other issue with "instant" abilities not being instant. I actually think that one is a combat design rather then a related lag issue. But it sucks either way.
You do realize that the starting racial stat differences don't scale with level and mean practically nothing at level 50 when you're sitting at almost 400 points of your primary stat, right? Don't base your racial choice on the stats. This is not the game in which to be doing that.
Same model for NA.
Entry: $12.99/m
Standard: $14.99/m (during 30 days), $13.99/m (during 90 days), $12.99/m (during 180 days).
Well, apparently the animations and other design decisions in a lot of other MMORPG's, are designed to do exactly that. Because, it doesn't really matter how good your netcode is, somebody, somewhere, is going to experience some lag. The animations and many other design decisions made in FFXIV, don't hide lag one bit when it shows up, so even normal lag people are going to notice a lot more. I'm not sure if that was intentional, or somebodies inexperience, or whatever.
They do need to clean up their netcode a little though. It probably wouldn't make a night and day difference in and of itself, but combined with a few tweaks to hide the lag, it'd probably improve the experience for many players.
Think it was mentioned when they first announced ARR that Odin was going to be a special 'wandering' primal, not affixed to any one tribe that got stronger the more often he was defeated like the fight itself was his aether. That could have changed but they singled him out that he wasn't attuned to any specific tribe at the moment, but perhaps there is a story to be told of a tribe that used to worship him I guess.
Kidd Bushido
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Played the Beta and enjoyed it quick thoughts.
Like different ways of leveling through guilds/gcs/partying/main quest/side quests etc but in final game don't want to be repeating the same stuff so more different quests and what not.
Combat is a improvement but some of the skills and abilities feels useless for some classes might get lost when you are higher level.
Story is good but wish you could skip some of the cutscenes they take too long and it's very lengthy.
Map should improve when you are looking for a quest area have a little line that directs you to where you need to go.
Jobs and Classes are good but there has to be more of them. FFXI Jobs in this game would be great but I can't see all of them. Don't want the same classes but with different spells and weapons. Should be all distinct from each other. Other FF game jobs should be in this game. If there is going to be an expansion more content and jobs but they should condense it 2-5 expansions instead of 11 like FFXI.
Overall good game somebody who has played FFXI will get this game but going to wait until more content and classes.
Like different ways of leveling through guilds/gcs/partying/main quest/side quests etc but in final game don't want to be repeating the same stuff so more different quests and what not.
Combat is a improvement but some of the skills and abilities feels useless for some classes might get lost when you are higher level.
Story is good but wish you could skip some of the cutscenes they take too long and it's very lengthy.
Map should improve when you are looking for a quest area have a little line that directs you to where you need to go.
Jobs and Classes are good but there has to be more of them. FFXI Jobs in this game would be great but I can't see all of them. Don't want the same classes but with different spells and weapons. Should be all distinct from each other. Other FF game jobs should be in this game. If there is going to be an expansion more content and jobs but they should condense it 2-5 expansions instead of 11 like FFXI.
Overall good game somebody who has played FFXI will get this game but going to wait until more content and classes.
theechrisfox
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I was able to skip every cut scene except the intro.
All abilities have their use at level 50, you will use some more than others, but no skill gets replaced but newer skills, all are part of the gameplay all the way to level 50.
So you don't care about the story, I guess that's cool, or whatever.
there won't be any lines showing little babies where to go. The Journal already show you the quests maps. Only the PS3 needs a little work to do with how the map is displayed, but nothing else.
There will be 8 Classes and 9 Jobs at launch. Also 8 crafting classes and 3 gathering classes. Plenty of them. However more Jobs will be added within a year or so, Yoshida won't wait for an expansion to add new Jobs.
SuperLurker
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The job is the same level as the corresponding class. If you gain experience with the job stone equipped you gain exp as the class.
Jobs are specializations of their base class, so the job would be level 30 and any exp you gain as the job applies to the base class. Think like a spec in WoW if you've played that. You don't level up "Shadow spec" on its own for priest, for example. If you switch to Holy spec you don't lose your Priest levels, just your Shadow skillset (or at least most of it).
Edit: Beaten D:
One major improvement to the map on PS3 is to just increase the size.
I think if you press L1 + R3 it brings up a mouse cursor. L2 and R2 are left and right mouse buttons. You can go to the corner of the map and just "drag" it bigger so it's less useless.
I'm on PC but I was playing with a PS3 person and he said that made it actually useable.
I think if you press L1 + R3 it brings up a mouse cursor. L2 and R2 are left and right mouse buttons. You can go to the corner of the map and just "drag" it bigger so it's less useless.
I'm on PC but I was playing with a PS3 person and he said that made it actually useable.
Cut scenes are skippable actually. You just have to push buttons a few times, to bring up the option.
SoraanTribal
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The game is designed so that in most cases, classes are better for soloing whereas jobs are better for party-play. When on your class (Gladiator for example), you can equip a lot more abilities from other classes whereas you are more restricted when on your job (Paladin).
Of course, for me... I prefer being on the job just because I love how the AF looks for most of them.
I think under the current system, and excluding Arcanist since we don't have much information about it, only 2 classes are worth playing at level 50: Thaumaturge and Archer.
The reasons being, as an Archer you are a pure ranged dps and will be able to equip buff skills from all the classes, but if you equip the Bard stone, your cross-class skills will be reduced to CNJ (and something else I don't remember right now), thus you lose many attack buffs, also songs will lower your dmg output.
As Thaumaturge, you get to equip CNJ skills, and having Cure, Protect, Raise and specially Stoneskin, will give you a strong defensive arsenal, and become more resourceful, compared to the BLM which has basically no support abilities aside that lv30 skill I believe.
Xux
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Not particularly. In 1.0, there was a stat trade off between classes and jobs but, in ARR, jobs have better stats in every way. Jobs' cross class abilities are more limited but, aside from some specific circumstances like THM being able to heal while BLM can't, most Jobs just flat out outclass their classes.
Kidd Bushido
Banned
Marauder has two of the same skills and one of them is around level 20ish you have to use another skill lv 4 i think to stack it. Some of them are useless needs to be looked the damage isn't that big of a difference. Story is good but there is going to be an expansion so it's not the "Real" story how are these expansion characters going to fit in with the main storyline? We saw all of the cutscenes and characters who are battling you can't have some random appear out of nowhere. If there is some left off in the story like regions or something else it could work but don't see it that way. Maps do need a improvement a line is best way to guide. Don't need to constantly look at the map in a new area that gets annoying. All of these classes and jobs are the same really most of them not a big difference. FFXI has everything distinct class wise haven't got up to the ffxi expansions but feels like Rune/Blue/Red and Geomancer/Dancer feels the same. Don't need that in this game.
With the new classes it's going to get repetitive doing the same quests/etc to level up so you'll get burned out easily. Best solution is to add a expansion since that comes with more enemies/different quests etc.
You have to wait for dialogue to finish and you can't skip all of it just skim the words.
Of course, for me... I prefer being on the job just because I love how the AF looks for most of them.
Given how AFs don't have special stats anymore, I don't see me wearing any of the AFs at all since they are third or fourth tier within the current gear available, not mentioning raids gear and new ARR recipes, so basically if AFs don't get something special for phase 4, they will be just above normal, materia-less gear, maybe just like lv50 greens.
Those aren't cut scenes in the classic sense of the word, thats just dialogue. Cutscenes tend to be more cinematic, and those scenes are skippable, since they're often the prelude to boss battles they may have to try several times.
SoraanTribal
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Sigh, it does depress me that they took away some of the special stats on AF gear.
At the very least, I'd use them for town/screenshot gear. And I suspect they will be decent when just starting at level 50 (before getting to the harder raids and dungeons).
Boss Man
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Oh yeah, I realize that it's pretty insignificant to have +/- 3 INT or whatever when you're a BLM with 250 INT. I'm just sort of particular about that stuff. Plus, Highlanders just seem like weird mages.
I think the main thing for me right now is deciding between the novelty/coolness of a Hellsguard and the appropriateness/immersion of a Midlander. I guess I'd just like to judge that evenly without knowing in the back of my head that statistically my big Hellsguard isn't actually a better melee character, or even mage unless I'm playing WHM.
So basically I feel like I'm going to be stuck playing a Midlander, which may end up being boring. At least they don't seem to be the most popular race in Miqote Fantasy XIV.
Kidd Bushido
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They are still too lengthy know with the voice acting much and it takes too long. Option to go through everything completely would be nice and you can view the cutscenes/dialogue story later in options.
Well, if you're going to be skipping all the dialogue in an MMORPG, you're going to end up skipping a LOT! Besides that, a lot of that dialogue ends up being gameplay tips and such, which I would just assume new players NOT skip.
First of all, this is no FFXI, and this will be no FFXI-2. If you want to play more FFXI, go do some Seekers of Adoulin or something. FFXI didn't have 22 classes at launch, it took them 10 years for that.
You talk about FFXI, so you know about FFXI. What is the relation between the stories of characters of Rise of the Zilart, Chains of Promathia, Treasures of Aht Urghan, Wings of the Goddess, etc? There's no relation. So what's your point about the story? You are making no sense dude.
Also about the Marauder skills, you obviously don't know what you are talking about, don't come out here saying "some skills are the same" when they are clearly not. If you actually think they are then say them by name and prove me wrong.
Skills in this game are part of a combo system, when you use them one after another one you gain additional effects and make them more powerful, even those skills that you mention which probably are Skull Sunder and Butcher's Block, yes they have to be stacked because that's the whole idea of the system to combo skills to increase their power, because by themselves they don't do much.
You sound like you don't care about the story at all. Why don't you go play a different game that has 0 story?
Sigh, it does depress me that they took away some of the special stats on AF gear.
I think AFs will be good enough to farm lv50 dungeons and maybe do some Primals, but I don't think they will cut it for raids. Also endgame FCs will probably not allow people on full AFs on their CT/LoB runs.
Xux
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Bard only loses Internal Release since it's other class is Lancer for Blood for Blood and it gets Raging Strikes (and Straight Shot) by itself. I didn't really ask anyone to check but I imagine Bard has better DEX, too, just like the rest of the Jobs have universally better stats than their classes in ARR.
Spiritreaver
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Why the fuck are we still seeing MMOs that don't have a fucking style system? DCUO has the best style system of any MMO I have played, period. THe next best maybe being SWTOR, but it's held back by shitty locked mods.Sigh, it does depress me that they took away some of the special stats on AF gear.
But dyeing gear with shitty colors is A-OK in most MMOs today. Not a FFXIV complaint (I think most gearsets look great), just a general MMO complaint.
Ah right, so it's only down to THM again. Wwhat's the stats increase for Jobs? I think it was about +20 on the main stat on 1.2+, wasn't it? If so the DEX increment will right outweigh the loss of Internal Release. Playing as MRD that was my favourite buff, specially since it's in a lower recast than the attack buffs.
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