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Final Fantasy XIV Beta Discussion + Media
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Shouta said:
Continued conversation about this in the Gaming thread~ I didn't notice this in the interview, so my mistake. Also, haven't noticed it actually happening in the beta. (And neither has anyone I've played with.) Odd!
In lieu of substantial post, here's a screenshot of what may be my final character design.
Gromph said:
No kidding. I really hope it doesn't stay like that... It's the same thing that WoW's beta experimented with, which was eventually turned down in favor of only having a "rested" state rather than both it and a "fatigued" state.
Bonuses = good.
Detriments = bad.
Surplus kicked in real soon while leves were still giving ungodly amounts of exp and rank, and it did take something like 2 days to go away. Once they nerfed the leve exp to hell and back, I never came close to hitting it again; I think you really had to grind to hit it, and I just couldn't be bothered to do so in a beta that was going to wipe your characters D;
Though I recall hearing (can't remember from where) that they planned on changing the surplus penalty to a much more modest amount (10% penalty as opposed to the 40 or so in the beta); that would essentially make it exactly the same as a rested exp system... just from a more pessimistic viewpoint D;
Though I recall hearing (can't remember from where) that they planned on changing the surplus penalty to a much more modest amount (10% penalty as opposed to the 40 or so in the beta); that would essentially make it exactly the same as a rested exp system... just from a more pessimistic viewpoint D;
Kintaro said:Have they even said we will have player homes?
Also...ow, my brain...
Please play a MMO made other than FFXI. Like, any of them.
Actually they did say there will be.
Thanks for the gif, thats how I look everytime I read another one of your comments.
Jinko said:
So stating facts is deffensive now? I wouldn't expect anything until there is an annoucement about it. I wonder why so many people still believe that beta = final game when they said that there are two other versions of the game we haven't seen yet. Open Beta version and then the Retail Version.
Gromph said:
They shouldn't make players do something they don't want to do. Again, the stats you allocate on your character may not work for the other job you switch to. If they are going to force someone to play a differen't job. Then they should have it where we can save our stats for each job. There should also be no wait to reallocate the points you already own.
Well, without knowing exactly how surplus works, I do admit that in general having a system which dictates how much you can play on a class is rather unsavory. However, I do kind of understand the need for such a limitation, even if I do not like it. The fact is people hitting cap in less than a month is a commonplace in MMO these days. Anyway, I no longer have the luxury of playing games for 8+ hours everyday like it was 6 years ago when I was still subscribed to FFXI and WoW, so I don't expect surplus to be a big deal for me (maybe during the weekends). Even if it does kick in, I imagine I'd want to spend time doing other jobs.
Gromph said:
I don't know, will you be penalized?
The system itself sounds harsh, but until you're affected by it, I just can't understand the preemptive criticism against it. Fact is no one knows how it will kick in now or in retail, so there is a chance that many of us who don't play all the time will not experience it.
Zomba13
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I like some of the open beta changed (friend list, /sit and /check). I'm pretty sure that 1 hour = fatique thing is utter bs. I mena It took me a long time to get fatique/surplus on my conj. Alot more than playing it for an hour. Although on time I did start getting it after around 1 and a half hours though, but I assume that was because of all the time I played conj the day before.
Still SE need to get rid of that shit. Punishing people for playing long times does NOT reward people playing shorter times. A reward for playing shorter times would be the first hour of xping you get a slight boost to xp (like resting bonus xp in wow or something). They should keep increasing the penlty on the people who want to play their game longer. I have a feeling this might be because their servers aren't too good. This way they get people still paying them the monthly fee but only on 1 hour or so a day meaning less strain on their servers. I dunno though, maybe the devs have just gone loopy and want to see how many shit ideas they can cram into the game.
Really sucks too because I utterly love FFXI, best MMO I've played with the best community and I was hoping FFXIV would be an improvement on it, with the same races (pretty much) and the same 1 character any class system and it being Final Fantasy. Somehow though they decided to just mess it up for the people who want to play their game a lot.
Edit: Added the I I somehow left out at the beggning. Made it seem like I think the /sit stuff is BS >.<
Still SE need to get rid of that shit. Punishing people for playing long times does NOT reward people playing shorter times. A reward for playing shorter times would be the first hour of xping you get a slight boost to xp (like resting bonus xp in wow or something). They should keep increasing the penlty on the people who want to play their game longer. I have a feeling this might be because their servers aren't too good. This way they get people still paying them the monthly fee but only on 1 hour or so a day meaning less strain on their servers. I dunno though, maybe the devs have just gone loopy and want to see how many shit ideas they can cram into the game.
Really sucks too because I utterly love FFXI, best MMO I've played with the best community and I was hoping FFXIV would be an improvement on it, with the same races (pretty much) and the same 1 character any class system and it being Final Fantasy. Somehow though they decided to just mess it up for the people who want to play their game a lot.
Edit: Added the I I somehow left out at the beggning. Made it seem like I think the /sit stuff is BS >.<
They would be better off adding a positive buff like the rested XP buff in WoW, the way they are doing this seems more like a punishment, who would have thought !
It's hilarious that they think that reducing XP down to 0% is a good idea.
At this rate they will be turning more people away than gaining them.
It's hilarious that they think that reducing XP down to 0% is a good idea.
At this rate they will be turning more people away than gaining them.
Zomba13 said:
I agree with you. If I'm paying to play, I shouldn't be restricted to only playing the job I like for 1 hour a day. I didn't pay a monthly fee only to be restricted to enjoying my job for a hour or 2 hours. I want the most for my money. People like Gromph wanting to enjoy their Monk for 4 hours is perfectly understandable. Folks saying that playing for over 2 hours is too much, are silly. Why playing a MMO if you can only play for a hour or two hours. Maybe a free to play MMO but not a MMO you are paying monthly for.
expy said:
It's like people don't even bother reading or at least skimming these threads at all, and then just read some sensationalist and outdated article amidst their porn galleries, and just run to post it an overreact as if they were the latest news. And this is not the first time people has done this in gaf with a SC article.
Ploid 3.0 said:
Well, and they are ready to cash in our desire to have 500 storage spaces with each additional retainer costing £0.70 ($1.00).
Robobandit
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That one hour time limit before you get penalized for playing is clearly in place due to the fact that they have no end-game content.. if people play too much they'll run out of content and stop playing.
If they don't give up on that idea, I won't be playing this game. The other stuff I can deal with.. but penalizing players because they want to enjoy the game is ridiculous.
If they don't give up on that idea, I won't be playing this game. The other stuff I can deal with.. but penalizing players because they want to enjoy the game is ridiculous.
Robobandit said:
This is my biggest issue right now. Im giving them the benefit of a doubt and will try it out in open beta and again when it launches but if it turns out to be a long term idea that hampers my enjoyment, I going to have to give up on it.
Im not going to be able to play a ton the way it is. One the days when I am able to sit down and put a few hours in, I dont want to be shoehorned into doing something that I dont want to just because of a shitty decision by SE.
Im hoping for the best though. We'll see.
notworksafe
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I haven't played Archer at all, but what is this I hear about arrows not stacking? That must suck for the Archers out there!
notworksafe said:
Yea I ran out of arrows just a moment ago in a leve, I still had arrows in my inventyory but because i had no arrows equiped i couldn't use refil, which resulted in death.
They really need to give some indication as to how many arrows you have in your quiver, other than that Archer is a very good class, quite overpowered, it will no doubt get a nerf eventually just as ranger did in FF11.
notworksafe
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Ahh okay. That makes much more sense.Valru said:
Hmm weird. So you have to equip each stack on its own? That's kinda dumb.Jinko said:
Get Multishot now, its pretty fucking amazing and OP.Jinko said:
Weird for me its 1 per shot, i burn 10 stacks pretty fast due to mulshot (uses 3 arrows) and Quick Nock (which can use up to 5-8 arrows, maybe more as you get higher idk), but honestly is not bad, great class overall, sucked that no bow recipe was discovered tho D:Valru said:
Londa said:Actually they did say there will be.
Thanks for the gif, thats how I look everytime I read another one of your comments.
That gif is everyone's reaction every single time you post or talk in the LS.
Also, to correct you, all SE would say on player housing is that they have nothing to announce. Which was back in July. Will it ever come? Probably. Should a mail system be in place right now? Absolutely.
For the record, this is how I feel when you post.
notworksafe
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Hrm, that's still dumb. It should just go until you are out of arrows. How bad is it to reequip? Can you just use a macro?Jinko said:
notworksafe
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Hey, shouldn't be a problem. Square got an Utsusemi counter for NIN super quick!
fizzelopeguss
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Londa said:
Jinko said:
I haven't seen this in person yet to verify whether or not it's accurate, but a friend of mine was saying that the arrow models in your character's quiver actually reflect a general status of how many you have left in the stack.
- 3 arrows = Over 70
- 2 arrows = Between 30 and 70
- 1 arrow = Under 30
- 0 arrows = Out, obviously
Could be wrong, but if that's true it could be handy.
Edit: Beaten!
Classic_Gs
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That is neat but not ideal, why not just have a counter on the action bar?Kuraine said:
Classic_Gs
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What is wrong with that?nataku said:
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