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Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward |OT2| RIP Bowmage 2015-2017.
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Yup.
Because you know. White Mage really needed more insta-heals and Stone goddamn IV. They've had years to balance these healers except it's just gonna be worse than it is now. Beyond Cure III, there's going to be no reason to take a WHM, ever, over an AST. And Cure III will never be needed because of what it is.
Guess we saw it coming during the live letter but man. How they've left Balance as 20% is beyond me too.
I levelled bard to 60 before the live letter therefore I count myself as a non-bandwagon bard.
Malick[AI]
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I think I am going to switch from DRK to RDM main.
I loved playing RDM in XI.
I loved playing RDM in XI.
The Confession thing seems like a really cool way to let WHM healbomb without venting MP--instant cast 15s CD ain't bad--and the "for the next 12 seconds everything is zero MP" thing is cool
But I can't wrap my head around the _zero_ group utility. They could justify it with two healers, but unless raid damage is so obscene a diurnal AST can't keep up, WHM is staying eh.
You guys got your revenge though. The MCH changes don't seem to like... make it better. At least overheat means some level of paying attention still.
I still have no idea if MCH is going to be satisfying to play, but at least it still seems worth leveling on. Turret lyfe
Do you mean the new skills? If so then I think I agree. On further thought they dont seem that great. Teleport to your Ley Lines is such a niche manoeuvre. Triple cast is pretty boring since I think you would only use it for Fire Vs so it doesnt provide any cool gameplay options. Seems like a poor showing compared to HW.
Stone Ocean
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I'm kind of amazed at how much utility BRD got, we even have a raid wide Thrill of Battle now
Ok looking at things Kaiten is fucking godlike. 20 kenki cost 5 second CD x2.5 ws damage (increase next ws damage by 150%) for the next ws.
You will just use Kaiten on 3Sen and either Gekko/Kasha (assuming you can get your positional's for the kenki, otherwise just 3Sen). Its better potency/kenki spent compared to anything else (unless fights about to end and you need to dump your kenki).
Place a sam with a DRG and BRD and RIP.
Sounds a bit crazy, but considering sams lack of utility it's needed.
You will just use Kaiten on 3Sen and either Gekko/Kasha (assuming you can get your positional's for the kenki, otherwise just 3Sen). Its better potency/kenki spent compared to anything else (unless fights about to end and you need to dump your kenki).
Place a sam with a DRG and BRD and RIP.
Sounds a bit crazy, but considering sams lack of utility it's needed.
EndcatOmega
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Well, Balance already got buffed, not sure what more you want.
Only if you do neverreap with minimum ilv gear.
They're lonely people with no fairies.
I tried to wiggle my way into the SCH position but our SCH is a career SCH that doesn't play anything else 99% of the time. QQ
Stone Ocean
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The card holder on their belt looks really dumb
Sir Griffith
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So, is it cool to be a PLD now? I was playing DRK before I quit a few months ago, but PLD changes seem nice
SliceSabre
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You're just jealous we have so many cards to play with! Our cards are our friends!
So wait, remember when Yoshi said they were scared of AST displacing the other healers and that's why they broke our legs on release? Then fixed them. Now WHM could be displaced.
Ergo: Yoshi was right as per usual.
I think I'll just do what I usually do and level both SCH and [another healer]. In this case it'll be AST. Not sure if I'll do SCH first or AST first, though.
For the record, I was one of the original ASTs who had faith in the job at 3.0 release when everyone was spitting on it.
For the record, I was one of the original ASTs who had faith in the job at 3.0 release when everyone was spitting on it.
i think for the extremely hardcore raiders and top 1% speedkillers the party roster will still be 1 ranged physical dps 3 melee for the 4 dps slots
oh well i'm blm main for life and i'm in japanese data centre anyway, i can still clear raids without static
Current meta is BRD/MCH/DRG/NIN; I'm trying to get an idea of the full scope of MCH changes because that still seems potentially the case? I need to see rotation potencies, but Bard actually contributing to group damage instead of just soaking it up helps thecomp a lot provided decent damage on ranged.
Maybe. Idk.
SliceSabre
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I don't look fondly on those days. I also was one of the original AST who struggled when HW came out and wanted for changes. I was the only AST in my FC for some time and became something of a joke. But I love buffing and such too much.
Feels good that AST is in a good place now.
I wish the AF3 wasn't a dress again but w/e.
Xion_Stellar
People should stop referencing data that makes me feel uncomfortable because games get ported to platforms I don't like
Hahahaha oh man these changes Hahahaha.
Let the Bard and Astrologian bandwagon hoping begin!!
I was still fully committed to using my two Mains (BRD & AST) regardless of the changes but I'm glad to see that Stormblood nade them better.
Let the Bard and Astrologian bandwagon hoping begin!!
I was still fully committed to using my two Mains (BRD & AST) regardless of the changes but I'm glad to see that Stormblood nade them better.
Currently seems PLD got the shaft pretty hard outside of flavor? It'll help bring them up a notch but they're still slacking vs the SB changes for the other tanks. As if they're behind an expansion.
A chance to rework synergies that they seemingly failed on across the board too. :|
A chance to rework synergies that they seemingly failed on across the board too. :|
EndcatOmega
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Hypercharge is still worth more than the MNK thing right? Actually on second thoughts if anyone gets replaced now it might be NIN?
theechrisfox
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I just came back after a few years off. Should I be saving the allagan tomes of poetics for after SB is released? I have not broken into HW yet.
Chakra synergy is the other lilies, about as good as Rain of Blood procs.
Not sure why they bothered.
Oddly enough, I am more excited for the BRD changes the most after reading them. The emphasis on shuffling through songs will make battles more involving of a puzzle than just trying to manage WM quirks. I try to get out and the class manages to pull me right back in...
SMN is going to be weird though; I expected that Bahamut would just be a turret, but these spell changes... I dunno. The emphasis might change from maximizing trance and aetherflow to just dumping everything ASAP to rush to Bahamut. And if Bahamut's enkindle still has the same SMN animation as normal, good fucking luck with that if your connection is on the fritz.
They didn't have to completely destroy Bane though.
SMN is going to be weird though; I expected that Bahamut would just be a turret, but these spell changes... I dunno. The emphasis might change from maximizing trance and aetherflow to just dumping everything ASAP to rush to Bahamut. And if Bahamut's enkindle still has the same SMN animation as normal, good fucking luck with that if your connection is on the fritz.
They didn't have to completely destroy Bane though.
Relaxed Muscle
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What? What SB WAR changes brings into the table that lacks PLD outside of damage? And that just a maybe considering the upgrade of potency PLD got across the board? With the loss of self heals PLD damage mitigation for himself and group makes him a much better tank at you know...tanking.
(Also blocking now blocks magic damage)
Dougieflesh
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Nah if Trick Attack is still the same then it's still gonna be better than whatever move the monk gives.
This is the main reason why I'm shying away from SCH despite it being my bread and butter. Hate DPSing.
PLD potency got upgraded but still at a step below overall; considering the state of Creator and that more-or-less being their target goal design wise, I'm not too pressed at increasing tank mitigation when all tanks were basically excessive at it to begin with. For PLD's increases to matter, the design has to change to force them to be relevant.
As far as continuing with current trends, which they've more or less said they're pretty good with doing, WAR still seems the defacto best OT and DRK seems the best MT; if you're running through super optimizing cooldown usages, WAR's better timer on Vengeance / Thrill / Holmgang also come into play too.
I don't think PLD's bad, by all means. It's in a largely better spot. Just I don't think the tank meta is changing much and in that framework, PLD is still in last place. It did get a large amount of flavor-based love, though.
Yes, just thinking about it, with 3 songs with 30 sec duration, 80 recast time means starting a song while another is not over is viable, for example if you get 3 stacks in pitch perfect change to the next song in the rotation. It also seems that barrage is best used at 3 stacks of the army peon's buff, together with the other buffs, because the empyreal arrow puts the buff at 4?
HW tomes will convert to Poetics after SB, so you can use Poetics now to buy gear for RDM/SAM leveling if you want.
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