pancakesandsex
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Rentahamster said:
Easier to buy, easier to sell. You'll see more gil changing hands.
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Final Fantasy XIV |OT| ARR: Alpha Closed. Beta mid-Feb
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Easier to buy, easier to sell. You'll see more gil changing hands.
Rentahamster
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Yep. Predictions of inflation or deflation aside, usability and time efficiency go up, and most ppl should be pleased.pancakesandsex said:
Rentahamster
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Just got 1022 SP on a TAN leve....
skitzophrenicdontpanic
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I went from rank 1 to rank 10 lancer in 12 minutes. first leve with 1 party member and guardians aspect gave 1300 skill per kill.
At rank 10 i'm still doing rank 1 leves and i'm getting 800+ skill per mob still. (legion difficulty with 2 people)
Has it always been this high? cause this is pretty insane.
At rank 10 i'm still doing rank 1 leves and i'm getting 800+ skill per mob still. (legion difficulty with 2 people)
Has it always been this high? cause this is pretty insane.
skitzophrenicdontpanic
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Yeah, you're probably right. I don't have anyone from my linkshell in my level range so I can't test out partying on my CON
Didnt get a chance to give party exp outside of leves a shot, but everything else seems smoother, easier to see and more responsive. Plus I think some of the weapon skill effects increased in size?
Havent heard any SP complaints from other forums.
EDIT: Reports from XIVcore -
Misc Info:
Seems optimal PT is 5-6 with SP not boosting after but dipping.
Seems some mob species give more SP, eg:
- Raptors, 250~ SP (yg said these were 60-65, some 55-59)
- Evil Eyes, 400~ SP (yg said these were 55-59, no others)
Same group used to kill both
Blue Gartr reports similar findings for optimal party number.
Btw, i'd wait until after the next patch this month, 1.15b to see what content hits to gauge your interest. Right now, all you'll have to do is party in leves/outside leves/behests, and story/class quests.
Is it just me or did they increase the size of certain weapon skills ( like Red lotus blade) special effect?
Havent heard any SP complaints from other forums.
EDIT: Reports from XIVcore -
Misc Info:
Seems optimal PT is 5-6 with SP not boosting after but dipping.
Seems some mob species give more SP, eg:
- Raptors, 250~ SP (yg said these were 60-65, some 55-59)
- Evil Eyes, 400~ SP (yg said these were 55-59, no others)
Same group used to kill both
Blue Gartr reports similar findings for optimal party number.
Btw, i'd wait until after the next patch this month, 1.15b to see what content hits to gauge your interest. Right now, all you'll have to do is party in leves/outside leves/behests, and story/class quests.
Is it just me or did they increase the size of certain weapon skills ( like Red lotus blade) special effect?
Not really sure if the new SP change is intended for crafting as well but getting over 700+ SP and 2800+ XP on a regular synthesis (I was getting ~400 SP and 1400 XP before) is really crazy. I don't mind a boost but that kind of increase is way too much. We'll see if this is going to be patched again or not.
Zalasta said:
Its not going to get patched out and its fantastic what they did with SP. 43 Archer doing Sphene Dodylns getting 225 a kill, our party of 40-46 doing raptor was getting 250-280 kill bring out SP per hour to 20k. Doing 1 night of level runs I again 100k SP (some with favor some without) instead of my normal 35k-40kish.
This SP fix is fanfuckingtastic, now if we can get some content in here we might have ourselves a fun game.
how long should I be expected to stay around Gridania? These NPC's are just annoying with all this greenwrath bullshit and quests ending all abruptly. Still my character hasn't been cleansed yet and I am just wandering around doing things and killing stuff until the linkshell lights up.
Pai Pai Master
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If party play becomes like FFXI (similar size parties fighting much stronger enemies) then I'm down. NOTHING beats FFXI EXP parties for me in terms of fun factor in an MMO.
Pai Pai Master
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EXACTLY the same isn't necessary. There are plenty of mechanics in FFXI that could use improving that I think FFXIV already addresses pretty well. The challenge just isn't there. The countless moments where your party is fighting along at camp pretty normally and then you aggro an extra mob or two and it's just nonstop, pure adrenaline-pumping insanity are still unrivaled in any game, I think. XIV needs that kind of philosophy, as of now the combat is still pretty boring.
It's not really about difficulty though as you can go out and fight more challenging stuff in FF14 its just not worth it because previously the SP rewards haven't paid off.
For me though its more that class roles are pretty washed out, very rarely do you feel as if your class is needed and the clusterfuck (whack a mole) party mechanics and death cycles just get monotonous as hell.
For me though its more that class roles are pretty washed out, very rarely do you feel as if your class is needed and the clusterfuck (whack a mole) party mechanics and death cycles just get monotonous as hell.
We did a normal sized sp party today, and were getting about 200 SP per antlion in Copperbell mines...but we were killing them in like 10 seconds and they only ranked blue to our party (rank 22-26). So all in all, it felt a little closer to XI's sense of partying than ever before, complete with that one guy that keeps dying
Also it seems entirely possible to get good SP by cutting your way through and exploring a dungeon, so thats something I like. Always fun to actually have a change to explore dungeon areas with the ability to defend yourself and be rewarded for it. Now Yoshi just needs to add roaming NMs in the various dungeons, maybe some random chest spawns. Really it works better for me since it gives you a chance to check out new places, and you arent just stationary waiting for pulls most of the time. Granted you still have to camp and pull at times, but thats just when the local population is dense.
Tomorrow we're going to check out lots of different areas since SP is finally at a point where it feels right. Optimal party size seems to be 4-6 and different monsters seem to give different amounts of SP, so both type and rank seem to factor in...sort of like a normal Final Fantasy game. Still looking forward to the adjustments added to classes to further uniqueness between classes. Battle Regiments work nicely and when everyone knows what to do/how to do it, its nice to see in action. During those battles, I think i've used more abilities than I ever have. Also I had to provoke in multiple directions.
Population on Lindblum has picked up since the patch, or at least it seems that more people are giving things a shot again. There was a ton of people running around and even a few say/shout conversations. Yoshi just needs to get some good battle adjustments and content in asap. More letters detailing whats currently going on as well.
Oh and every battlecraft leve should end with large monster mini-boss battle. That dreamtoad just looked creepy/cool Its just the way it sort of stares at you with a slightly tilted head. Even has that extra skin that toads have when they "blink".
Screenshots:
Also it seems entirely possible to get good SP by cutting your way through and exploring a dungeon, so thats something I like. Always fun to actually have a change to explore dungeon areas with the ability to defend yourself and be rewarded for it. Now Yoshi just needs to add roaming NMs in the various dungeons, maybe some random chest spawns. Really it works better for me since it gives you a chance to check out new places, and you arent just stationary waiting for pulls most of the time. Granted you still have to camp and pull at times, but thats just when the local population is dense.
Tomorrow we're going to check out lots of different areas since SP is finally at a point where it feels right. Optimal party size seems to be 4-6 and different monsters seem to give different amounts of SP, so both type and rank seem to factor in...sort of like a normal Final Fantasy game. Still looking forward to the adjustments added to classes to further uniqueness between classes. Battle Regiments work nicely and when everyone knows what to do/how to do it, its nice to see in action. During those battles, I think i've used more abilities than I ever have. Also I had to provoke in multiple directions.
Population on Lindblum has picked up since the patch, or at least it seems that more people are giving things a shot again. There was a ton of people running around and even a few say/shout conversations. Yoshi just needs to get some good battle adjustments and content in asap. More letters detailing whats currently going on as well.
Oh and every battlecraft leve should end with large monster mini-boss battle. That dreamtoad just looked creepy/cool
Its just the way it sort of stares at you with a slightly tilted head. Even has that extra skin that toads have when they "blink".Screenshots:
I think the convention is 2 large pics per post. If you have more than 2 large pics you can:
* Post multiple times, each time with 2 big pics
* Post two large pics and then thumbnails to your other pics, all in a single post
At least, these are the rules that Evilore set out in the big screenshot threads on the Gaming forum. No clue if they apply in this thread =\
* Post multiple times, each time with 2 big pics
* Post two large pics and then thumbnails to your other pics, all in a single post
At least, these are the rules that Evilore set out in the big screenshot threads on the Gaming forum. No clue if they apply in this thread =\
Unknown Soldier
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I love how most of Tek's pictures have him lying dead on the ground in them.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Did a quick mob grind in a 4 person party - ~40-60 second kills @ 250-330 SP per kill.
Your best bet is to find a place with no one else in it so there's no lag to fuck up your Battle Regimens.
I was doing 1000-1500 dmg using FerocityII+Raging Strike+Blindside+Doomspike II as the third chain in a battle regimen. What fun seeing a mob's HP drop to 0 in a matter of seconds.
Your best bet is to find a place with no one else in it so there's no lag to fuck up your Battle Regimens.
I was doing 1000-1500 dmg using FerocityII+Raging Strike+Blindside+Doomspike II as the third chain in a battle regimen. What fun seeing a mob's HP drop to 0 in a matter of seconds.
That's fine, there are still folks in that range.Jinko said:I love the look of those toads
What rank would you guys be looking at to party I'm still only rank 23 conujerer or Lancer so probably too low.
Partying yesterday was definitely the most fun I've had in this game. The leve party was good SP, but I was too low rank so I didn't have much to do other than unintentionally piss people off... which I do well.
But once we got into a grind party, and I was essentially the only healer (the other CON died every 10 minutes), it was much faster paced and I actually had more to do than just heal. I don't think we've found the ideal mob/location/SP per hour yet, but it feels like things are moving in the right direction.
I would still like to see some significant class changes. Right now I feel like there's no difference between playing CON and THM other than the AoE. I'm using the exact same spells on both and playing both almost identical if I'm main healing. If I'm not main healing, one becomes a BLM and the other becomes a RDM/BLM. Still almost identical.
I also feel that enfeebles need to last longer. If the recast on Dia is going to be 30 seconds or whatever it is, it needs to last a majority of the fight. The ants we were battling would only stay alive for maybe 30 seconds, but my enfeebles would fade after maybe 5-10 seconds. This is even worse for spells like Absorb-DEF which has something like a 60 second recast (although it might be lower on THM it's still not good). I almost feel like it's a waste of MP using them...
I still prefer camping in FFXI, but I'm okay with the roaming parties in FFXIV so long as there are steady mobs. If another party had been in our camp last night I don't think the mobs would've been as steady, which is a big problem.
Make the classes feel more unique, make the spells more effective, and adjust the mob location and respawn so camps can hold more parties and I think FFXIV will be close to FFXI.
But once we got into a grind party, and I was essentially the only healer (the other CON died every 10 minutes), it was much faster paced and I actually had more to do than just heal. I don't think we've found the ideal mob/location/SP per hour yet, but it feels like things are moving in the right direction.
I would still like to see some significant class changes. Right now I feel like there's no difference between playing CON and THM other than the AoE. I'm using the exact same spells on both and playing both almost identical if I'm main healing. If I'm not main healing, one becomes a BLM and the other becomes a RDM/BLM. Still almost identical.
I also feel that enfeebles need to last longer. If the recast on Dia is going to be 30 seconds or whatever it is, it needs to last a majority of the fight. The ants we were battling would only stay alive for maybe 30 seconds, but my enfeebles would fade after maybe 5-10 seconds. This is even worse for spells like Absorb-DEF which has something like a 60 second recast (although it might be lower on THM it's still not good). I almost feel like it's a waste of MP using them...
I still prefer camping in FFXI, but I'm okay with the roaming parties in FFXIV so long as there are steady mobs. If another party had been in our camp last night I don't think the mobs would've been as steady, which is a big problem.
Make the classes feel more unique, make the spells more effective, and adjust the mob location and respawn so camps can hold more parties and I think FFXIV will be close to FFXI.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Hey Cmagus, when you reach around rank 15-ish I can help you rank up. My lowest rank battle class, Gladiator, is still only rank 15.
@Dogg the reason those enfeebles sucked is because those are THM spells. When you use other jobs' skills, they sucks, enfeebles are especially noticeable.
Just stick to the CON enfeebles and the corresponding CON nukes that are the opposite of the target mob's elemental affinity.
@Dogg the reason those enfeebles sucked is because those are THM spells. When you use other jobs' skills, they sucks, enfeebles are especially noticeable.
Just stick to the CON enfeebles and the corresponding CON nukes that are the opposite of the target mob's elemental affinity.
I've not played FFXIV yet only because I kept up with this thread since release and have been scared to even try it. With the newest patch do you think it's worth my time/money to buy this and play it or should I hold off even longer? No MMO right now and sorta missing having 1 around lol.
pancakesandsex
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Mudo said:
Hold off. It's not "there" yet.
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