Assuming you mean Sacred Stones, I think this game was considered to be better. At least the original SNES version was. Sacred Stones was one of the weaker Fire Emblem games.
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Fire Emblem 12 (DS) Fan Translation |OT| Like Shadow Dragon, but good
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Assuming you mean Sacred Stones, I think this game was considered to be better. At least the original SNES version was. Sacred Stones was one of the weaker Fire Emblem games.
Lactose_Intolerant
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looks like I found what I'll be playing on my xmas flights
Cosmo Clock 21
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I also disagree with OTs going up so early, but in this case you can go DOWNLOAD PATCH NOW and people can get instant gratification.
Otoh Play-Asia takes like two weeks to ship to the US, so maybe they'll still have to wait anyways.
The Awesomest
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PokéKong;44508903 said:
Well, if IS had made Book 1 and 2 all in one go, they would've both been as bad as Shadow Dragon
Yes, it follows the story of FE11. However, it is a pretty basic story. Evil ancient dragon comes back and teams with an evil sorcerer to conquer the world. Hero from lineage of heroes defeats him. Allies with this dude named Hardin.
Here's the entire script if you want it
I played some of 5... the script translation is fine, but they didn't really do much else. Weapon descriptions are missing, battle windows are untranslated (and this was before the simplified windows in FE6), and there are a few text bugs here and there. FE6 translation was much more thorough, though FE5 and 4 are certainly playable if you put in the effort of figuring things out on your own.
It's pretty universally regarded as much better. Though you ought to know, Fire Emblem has this weird habit of picking and choosing which features go into which game. So FE12 won't have a world map, branching promotions, or rescuing. Instead it has the things I mentioned in the OP. FE13 has all the things from FE12 and a map and branching promotions, but gets rid of level 21 promotions from the Tellius games.
Cheers, is this game a "guide'dangit" type thing i.e. is there a not of missable stuff?
The Heroes of Shadow today updated the expected patch release status to "anytime this week". It could theoretically happen today as far as I can tell.
Thanks for the OT, definitely subscribing. This was the first Fire Emblem game that I had been anticipating after becoming a fan of the series, and the fact that Nintendo of America seemingly decided to not localize it severely disappointed me. I've been following the project since almost the very beginning, but I don't intend to play the game so soon.
And while I'm at it, I fervently implore everyone here to play Fire Emblem Awakening once it releases next year.
Thanks for the OT, definitely subscribing. This was the first Fire Emblem game that I had been anticipating after becoming a fan of the series, and the fact that Nintendo of America seemingly decided to not localize it severely disappointed me. I've been following the project since almost the very beginning, but I don't intend to play the game so soon.
And while I'm at it, I fervently implore everyone here to play Fire Emblem Awakening once it releases next year.
The Awesomest
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Added Iwata Asks to OP. Thanks for reminding me, Neon_Icarus
Mmm... which, FE11 or 12? Both games are pretty straightforward, as each mission is a subsequent chapter. In FE12, though, some chapters have certain requirements to fulfill in order to access bonus chapters (and you only get one shot at this, but they can be fairly simple), and some enemy characters can only be recruited to your army if you talk to them with the right character or go through a certain process (also only one shot, but recruitment tips are given before the chapter starts), and in FE12 there's a true ending you can get by collecting 12 certain items (which are fairly obvious, but still missable). So, I would say you don't really need a guide if you're perceptive enough, but if you're paranoid then a guide certainly wouldn't hurt.
Mmm... which, FE11 or 12? Both games are pretty straightforward, as each mission is a subsequent chapter. In FE12, though, some chapters have certain requirements to fulfill in order to access bonus chapters (and you only get one shot at this, but they can be fairly simple), and some enemy characters can only be recruited to your army if you talk to them with the right character or go through a certain process (also only one shot, but recruitment tips are given before the chapter starts), and in FE12 there's a true ending you can get by collecting 12 certain items (which are fairly obvious, but still missable). So, I would say you don't really need a guide if you're perceptive enough, but if you're paranoid then a guide certainly wouldn't hurt.
I will, once I've bought the 3DS. But chances are good that I might do that next year, the lineup will most likely be good enough for me by then. I still have faint hope for a revision with 2 analog sticks though
GayForMaster
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You're forgetting one more important thing worth mentioning on the list.
Everyone had modifiable classes. Completely drained the value of every character. It was such a dumb idea. Was it even in the original?
One of the games I'm looking forward to, but I'm still waiting for a XL with a color that isn't terrible in NA.
I like it better than Awakening's art style.
Reclassing is a feature that only started being used in Shadow Dragon. New Mystery and Awakening retain reclassing.
I'm seeing used copies as low as 1800 yen and new copies for 2980 yen.
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The Awesomest
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Oh, yeah, that. It wasn't in the original, but they kept it in FE12. I figured it's not that bad, since it's completely optional. I never used it. In FE13, at least, they changed it so each individual character has only two other classes they can change to, and you need an item to do it.
GayForMaster
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Well that fucking sucks.
Even if its optional it's still there, that's just what bothers me the most. I can choose not to do it but will end up doing it later for the sake of being unbalanced to make the game easier.
MushroomSamba
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I've been following their progress for what feels like a couple years now. Very excited it's finally finished.
Yeah, I'm not a fan of the character designs either, but it's not enough to deter me from actually playing it. I didn't dig the 3D models in PoR and RD either, but they turned out to be my favorite games in the series.
I'd start at FE7 for the GBA and work your way up. In the US, it's just titled Fire Emblem.
FE8 (Sacred Stones) for the GBA is probably the easiest of the ones I played.
FE Path of Radiance for the Gamecube is where you'd want to start if you're not a fan of portables, then go to Radiant Dawn, it's direct sequel. RD is probably the toughest of the bunch (but also my favorite).
FE Shadow Dragon on the DS should be the last...it's the worst one, IMO. You might want to play it before the upcoming FE12 patch release, since it's supposedly a sequel.
Yeah, I'm not a fan of the character designs either, but it's not enough to deter me from actually playing it. I didn't dig the 3D models in PoR and RD either, but they turned out to be my favorite games in the series.
I'd start at FE7 for the GBA and work your way up. In the US, it's just titled Fire Emblem.
FE8 (Sacred Stones) for the GBA is probably the easiest of the ones I played.
FE Path of Radiance for the Gamecube is where you'd want to start if you're not a fan of portables, then go to Radiant Dawn, it's direct sequel. RD is probably the toughest of the bunch (but also my favorite).
FE Shadow Dragon on the DS should be the last...it's the worst one, IMO. You might want to play it before the upcoming FE12 patch release, since it's supposedly a sequel.
Are you referring to
the twelve Starsphere Shards
form the Starsphere
complete the Shield of Seals
The Awesomest
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I figured that's what I'd do too, but I found myself unable to do it, since my units were either already so good in their own class that reclassing wouldn't offer any advantage, or so bad that I gain nothing from reclassing them. Also weapon levels reset.
Yes! It's designed to be a good introductory game. If you want, Fire Emblem for GBA and Gamecube are also good introductory games. Pretty much every English FE game, even the first one for DS, is a good introductory game, except for the Wii one.
Palette Swap
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Thanks, I guess I'll go this way then.
I might even buy it used, I've never had any trouble with used games from Japan in the past 15+ years.
Nothing beats FE9 style though. So good.
I would say both translation patches are passable (FE4 more so, FE5's is rather lukewarm in my opinion), but it's worth noting that it's simply not possible to witness the entire ending to FE4 with the patch because the game always freezes at a certain point. FE5 can actually freeze as well if you highlight a certain character in a certain chapter. The patches to the other games are all excellent, though.
Definitely.
Good, thanks.
My backlog is super-full at the moment, but i'll definitely play it in the future.
You're a more rational man than me. I am going to force myself to finally complete Shadow Dragon to fully understand FE12.
chickdigger802
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Does this still use the hideous prerender sprites of shadow dragon?
It reuses the same sprites, yeah.
Aveyn Knight
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Cool, it's great seeing everybody so interested.
However, I didn't expect a thread before the patch is released : P
Now I feel even more pressured when working on those finishing touches...
However, I didn't expect a thread before the patch is released : P
Now I feel even more pressured when working on those finishing touches...
The hero himself.
I think we're all just pleased to hear how thorough you're being, not so much the polish. Though polish is always nice.
transience
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Is this a good FE to start with? I've played a few minutes of a couple of them but never stuck with them.
I'm a big TO/FFT fan so it's not like I'm new to the genre, but at the same time I'm a total FE virgin.
I'm a big TO/FFT fan so it's not like I'm new to the genre, but at the same time I'm a total FE virgin.
Awakening might be the best one to begin with because it's a new story with the "casual" mode implemented.
Though if you don't mind perma-death and have access to a GBA (or a GBA compatible DS), I would highly recommend Fire Emblem 7.
The Awesomest
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Here's Shadow Dragon's entire script
And it's not awful, btw. Just not up to par with the rest. If you have a Fire Emblem itch, Shadow Dragon will scratch it.
Yes, this will be a good one to start with. Or pretty much any of the English games aside from Radiant Dawn, especially Fire Emblem GBA. This one is the first that has the non-permadeath mode though. To be honest, I had played FE so much that when I tried Shining Force and FFT I just couldn't get past the fact that speed determined turn order. I couldn't stand it. Eventually I got used to it though.
PokéKong;44508903 said:
The Super Famicom remake of the first game didn't make the original game obsolete, really. It's basically an abridged version since they actually cut characters and even chapters from the story. Shadow Dragon is a much more faithful retelling of the original game.
New Mystery of the Emblem deserves to be played.
The Awesomest
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Added an interview with a member of the translation team to the OP
I'm sorry but that's incredibly stupid.
The Awesomest
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Welcome to fan translations!
Yeah, I don't know much about fan translations, but Aeris and Aerith should be proof enough that altered name translations are a point of contention, to say the least.