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[Tom_Cody]

I had asked a similar question on the previous page but let me simplify it here:

When advancing characters, does it ever make sense to max out the levels in a class or is it better, as a rule, to simply use a seal once all desired skills have been learned?

What say you Fire Emblem GAF, do you use seals at level 10/15 or at level 20?

Note: I am referring to the 20 level classes and not the special 30 level classes.

 

[CorvoSol]

Okay, so if I marry Sumia, Sully, and Maribelle off prior to Chapter 11, then Chrom can have Olivia. I mean, it isn't that I don't like Sumia, but I suddenly feel like having Chrom marry a girl he just met is more entertaining than having him go for Sumia, who has been fawning over him all this time.

In a second playthrough, though, I'm pairing Avatar with Tiki, because then the pairing works out even, doesn't it? Even if not, Manakete is an awesome class and I want that for Morgan.

 

[Anteo]

I had asked a similar question on the previous page but let me simplify it here:

When advancing characters, does it ever make sense to max out the levels in a class or is it better, as a rule, to simply use a seal once all desired skills have been learned?

What say you Fire Emblem GAF, do you use seals at level 10/15 or at level 20?

Note: I am referring to the 20 level classes and not the special 30 level classes.

When you use a master seal the game will set the internal level of your unit to level 21 iirc, it doesnt matter if the unit was level 10 or 20, so it will slow down his/her growth. However you can upgrade at level 10 to get 2nd skills a lot earlier in the game. So it depends on what you want to achieve.

Okay, so if I marry Sumia, Sully, and Maribelle off prior to Chapter 11, then Chrom can have Olivia. I mean, it isn't that I don't like Sumia, but I suddenly feel like having Chrom marry a girl he just met is more entertaining than having him go for Sumia, who has been fawning over him all this time.

In a second playthrough, though, I'm pairing Avatar with Tiki, because then the pairing works out even, doesn't it? Even if not, Manakete is an awesome class and I want that for Morgan.

You still need Olivia to stick together with Chrom and get to Rank C or he will marry a generic villager girl.

 

[CorvoSol]

When you use a master seal the game will set the internal level of your unit to level 21 iirc, it doesnt matter if the unit was level 10 or 20, so it will slow down his/her growth. However you can upgrade at level 10 to get 2nd skills a lot earlier in the game. So it depends on what you want to achieve.



You still need Olivia to stick together with Chrom and get to Rank C or he will marry a generic villager girl.

Bwhaha, really? Well fine. She'll be glued to him the whole mission, and they'll do all the heavy lifting. Does she begin Ch. 11 near him, at least?

 

[TWILT]

Bwhaha, really? Well fine. She'll be glued to him the whole mission, and they'll do all the heavy lifting. Does she begin Ch. 11 near him, at least?

Yep. I paired her up with Chrom immediately.

 

[Anteo]

Bwhaha, really? Well fine. She'll be glued to him the whole mission, and they'll do all the heavy lifting. Does she begin Ch. 11 near him, at least?

Yeah, she joins the main group at the start of the 1st turn.

 

[Tom_Cody]

When you use a master seal the game will set the internal level of your unit to level 21 iirc, it doesnt matter if the unit was level 10 or 20, so it will slow down his/her growth. However you can upgrade at level 10 to get 2nd skills a lot earlier in the game. So it depends on what you want to achieve.

Ok.

You still need Olivia to stick together with Chrom and get to Rank C or he will marry a generic villager girl.

Haha, really? Are there any images of this? I feel terrible for anyone this happened to.

 

[Anteo]

Ok.

Haha, really? Are there any images of this? I feel terrible for anyone this happened to.

Well there is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jfRnr1dZCw

 

[Save 'N Quit]

Created a female avatar yesterday because A.) I'm remarrying Tharja again in my Lunatic run and B.) So that I can have a file to be with

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Priam

. Also to mess around a little with Lucy in our supports.

Should be fun.

Edit: Oh! Looks like I'm finally a member. Hooray for me and all that.

 

[Chet Rippo]

Is the game as good as the reviews tell? I want to buy it now that it releases on Europe.

It's really good, yes.

 

[Tom_Cody]

Well there is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jfRnr1dZCw

Lol, wow.

 

[Trojita]

You still need Olivia to stick together with Chrom and get to Rank C or he will marry a generic villager girl.

When people were talking about this before, I thought they were talking about a recruitable unit like Donny.

 

[CorvoSol]

Speaking of Donny, when does he get good? I mean, I heard he becomes crazy broken or something after some point, and right now, while he's sorta keeping up, he's not the mass murderer like Lon'qu.

Donny is still the best, though.

 

[zroid]

Speaking of Donny, when does he get good? I mean, I heard he becomes crazy broken or something after some point, and right now, while he's sorta keeping up, he's not the mass murderer like Lon'qu.

Donny is still the best, though.

I think he begins showing his colours around level 10, and will only get stronger from there. Once you reclass him, he pretty much becomes instantly amazing.

 

[chaosblade]

Is there a list of things this game references? Or at least the localized version, since they probably took some liberties with some of these references. Because they seem to have covered everything, from a bunch of movies to Reggie to PETA to political jokes to other games like FFXIII.

If nothing else, you can tell they had a lot of fun working on it.

 

[CorvoSol]

Married Donny to Maribelle. Actually a really sweet support conversation, showing that Maribelle isn't the stiff prude she kinda seemed to be when I first started the game. Planning to wed Sully to Virion. Anybody else think Virion kinda looks like a medieval Miles Edgeworth?
And I'm foisting Sumia on Frederick.

 

[Tom_Cody]

Married Donny to Maribelle. Actually a really sweet support conversation, showing that Maribelle isn't the stiff prude she kinda seemed to be when I first started the game. Planning to wed Sully to Virion. Anybody else think Virion kinda looks like a medieval Miles Edgeworth?
And I'm foisting Sumia on Frederick.

Don't be too eager to marry your character off so quickly (Chrom aside). You will encounter more characters as the game goes on.

I regret a number of the marriages that I set up early on. As you continue to play you will get a better sense for all of the character's personalities and you will also get a better sense of what skills you want to set up for inheritance. And, to reiterate, you probably haven't even encountered all of the normal characters yet.

This game has a lot of end-game/post-game content. You shouldn't feel like the game is going to pass you by if you don't start marrying off your characters. That Chrom gets married so early on can be kind misleading. On my next play through I probably won't start setting up marriages until chapter 20 or so.

 

[Tom_Cody]

Speaking of Donny, when does he get good? I mean, I heard he becomes crazy broken or something after some point, and right now, while he's sorta keeping up, he's not the mass murderer like Lon'qu.

Donny is still the best, though.

Donnel has the unique skill Aptitude which "Adds 20% to all growth rates during Level Ups". Every time you level up your stat increases are random (well, random against character specific percentages) so Donnel's Aptitude skill results in him getting beastly gains over time as he levels up. Eventually all of your characters will start to reach their stat caps, but he will have a faster path than anyone else in getting there. (Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not an expert).

His strength really creeps up on you. He will go from being a liability to being a beast in a snap.

 

[chaosblade]

You really want to second seal Donnel ASAP too. Mercenary has better growth rates and MUCH better stat modifiers than villager - you'll gain like 4 str, 6 spd, 7 skl, etc just from that class change.

I wouldn't really blame someone for not bothering with the Underdog skill and class changing at level 10, Underdog isn't really great, though with Donnel's growths you'll probably find that he'll be underleveled and still as strong or stronger than your other units, meaning he can make use of it reasonably well. He doesn't really need it though.

 

[Trojita]

I still don't get whether or not to wait for characters to be at max level in their class before using a master seal or second seal. Is it always better to level to 20 first? Is there a downside?

 

[peaceiscloser]

Speaking of Donnel, I totally skipped over recruiting him when I started my second playthrough, and I finally came back to him on my finished-for-months save file. Gave him a Paragon, All Stats+2 and fully forged Bronze Lance, paired him with my most powerful unit, then super rallied him.

Needless to say, he obliterated the competition.

 

[chaosblade]

I still don't get whether or not to wait for characters to be at max level in their class before using a master seal or second seal. Is it always better to level to 20 first? Is there a downside?

When you promote a unit I'd say it's worth it to get them to level 20 first, or reclass them at some point to another base class and level them up before promoting. Otherwise you're going to be disadvantaged when it comes to stats due to the slower experience gain (earlier you promote, the more your exp gain will be hurt).

There's not much point in getting promoted units to 20 before reclassing to other promoted classes though. Get them to 10 so you don't have to go back to a base class (unless you want to) or 15 if you want that skill.

 

[CorvoSol]

Don't be too eager to marry your character off so quickly (Chrom aside). You will encounter more characters as the game goes on.

I regret a number of the marriages that I set up early on. As you continue to play you will get a better sense for all of the character's personalities and you will also get a better sense of what skills you want to set up for inheritance. And, to reiterate, you probably haven't even encountered all of the normal characters yet.

This game has a lot of end-game/post-game content. You shouldn't feel like the game is going to pass you by if you don't start marrying off your characters. That Chrom gets married so early on can be kind misleading. On my next play through I probably won't start setting up marriages until chapter 20 or so.

I'm only marrying off the potential brides to Chrom so that there's no threat to Olivia. I'm even putting off wedding Avatar for awhile. I just want the competition out of the way on this one. If I regret this, there are always subsequent playthroughs.

You really want to second seal Donnel ASAP too. Mercenary has better growth rates and MUCH better stat modifiers than villager - you'll gain like 4 str, 6 spd, 7 skl, etc just from that class change.

I wouldn't really blame someone for not bothering with the Underdog skill and class changing at level 10, Underdog isn't really great, though with Donnel's growths you'll probably find that he'll be underleveled and still as strong or stronger than your other units, meaning he can make use of it reasonably well. He doesn't really need it though.

Wait, so I shouldn't level Donny up to 20 before changing his class?

 

[Frolow]

Random thought: How many playthroughs would it take to see all the support conversations?

 

[Draxal]

I'm only marrying off the potential brides to Chrom so that there's no threat to Olivia. I'm even putting off wedding Avatar for awhile. I just want the competition out of the way on this one. If I regret this, there are always subsequent playthroughs.



Wait, so I shouldn't level Donny up to 20 before changing his class?

15 if you want underdog. Donnel is the exception.

 

[Moonlight]

Wait, so I shouldn't level Donny up to 20 before changing his class?

Don't bother. Villager has incredibly low stat caps and Underdog is a pretty useless skill. You'll particularly want Armsthrift on him as quickly as possible.

 

[Chrom]

Is there a list of things this game references? Or at least the localized version, since they probably took some liberties with some of these references. Because they seem to have covered everything, from a bunch of movies to Reggie to PETA to political jokes to other games like FFXIII.

If nothing else, you can tell they had a lot of fun working on it.

I don't know of a place that compiles all of these references, but somebody ought to get down to doing so.

My favorite one ought to be the one with Reggie.

 

[BlackJace]

What the fuck @ Chapter 19.

 

[CSX]

Performed Kincaido's ultimate sin

married Cordelia to Donny on 2nd playthrough

 

[Deified Data]

Performed Kincaido's ultimate sin

married Cordelia to Donny on 2nd playthrough

lol, she settled. He "passed the test". I like pairing her with Libra - their melancholy complements one another.

Random thought: How many playthroughs would it take to see all the support conversations?

You can view the vast majority in 1 playthrough...it's just the S-ranks you have to worry about. Even then, you could save, reach S-rank with someone, reload, rinse and repeat as often as desired. You can get all the supports in a single playthrough as far as I can tell.

 

[dakkumauji]

You can view the vast majority in 1 playthrough...it's just the S-ranks you have to worry about. Even then, you could save, reach S-rank with someone, reload, rinse and repeat as often as desired. You can get all the supports in a single playthrough as far as I can tell.

You need at least two at the very minimum, due to there being female and male avatars and in extent, female and male Morgans.

And, don't forget all the potential parent to children supports and the potential sibling ones as well!

Even more is to remember about Chrom's early marriage which throws the whole timing for children into a loop.

 

[Kincaido]

Performed Kincaido's ultimate sin

married Cordelia to Donny on 2nd playthrough

You dastard. You're dead to me!

 

[CorvoSol]

Why can't Donny be with Cordelia? Donny is a fine, pot-wearing guy, and he knows how to treat the ladies and he loves his mother.

 

[Kincaido]

That little farmer boy with the stupid scar, curly hair, accent and pot does not deserve such a refined beauty!

 

[CSX]

Why can't Donny be with Cordelia? Donny is a fine, pot-wearing guy, and he knows how to treat the ladies and he loves his mother.

Something to do with Cordelia being like royalty (in Kincaido's eyes) and lowly village scum like Donny shouldnt be together

EDIT : beaten by the one himself lol

 

[zroid]

It's definitely the pot. Cordy just can't keep her hands off the pot!

 

[Javier]

I married Donny to Cordelia in my Lunatic playthrough weeks ago.

Severa was an absolute monster.

 

[Kincaido]

To all people paring them up

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I just want to post this. You are all dastards though.

 

[Draxal]

Well Donny is probably the most horrific father to Severa for game play reasons, as you're passing down duplicate classes/and a bad stat cap and wasting Donnel's main advantage (he can pass down pegasus knight to his daughter).

 

[CorvoSol]

That little farmer boy with the stupid scar, curly hair, accent and pot does not deserve such a refined beauty!

I paired Donny with Maribelle, and she's all fancy and stuff. Cordelia is a Pegasus knight. She spends all her time on horseback and waiting for the Javelin Fairy. Probably smells like horse and has callus'd hands.

 

[ohlawd]

I paired Donny with Maribelle, and she's all fancy and stuff. Cordelia is a Pegasus knight. She spends all her time on horseback and waiting for the Javelin Fairy. Probably smells like horse and has callus'd hands.

Maribelle rides a horse too, you know.

 

[CorvoSol]

Maribelle rides a horse too, you know.

Donny is a farmboy. He doesn't mind.

 

[peaceiscloser]

Considering pairing up Mother Mary with Chrom the Father to beget Lucina as a holy magic user. Book of Naga Aether go!

 

[zroid]

Maribelle rides a horse too, you know.

oh lawd

 

[ohlawd]

oh lawd

yo you better stop name quoting me or I'm gonna Multistrike/Pierce/Grimoire/Stone+ your ass :3

 

[Hours Left]

When people were talking about this before, I thought they were talking about a recruitable unit like Donny.

I was talking about this awhile ago.

It would of been so awesome if by leaving Chrom with no female supports you unlock a brand new character.

 

[neoemonk]

How long do people save their good weapons? I'm on chapter 14 now, and I have a stockpile of C rank and above weapons. I realized that I'm probably saving them for no good reason at all. No one carries anything above steel on my team, even with A ranks on the characters.

I'm guessing eventually I can buy silver weapons, but right now that's not possible. Still, I have a few of each in my convoy, and some of the crit weapons, etc.

 

[Soulhouf]

Donny is a farmboy. He doesn't mind.

Now that you say it, they are perfect together lol


On a side note, I think I already spent too much money on this game.

The only thing missing is the 3DS LE but I will stop here because I also have the digital version of the game.

 

[chaosblade]

How long do people save their good weapons? I'm on chapter 14 now, and I have a stockpile of C rank and above weapons. I realized that I'm probably saving them for no good reason at all. No one carries anything above steel on my team, even with A ranks on the characters.

I'm guessing eventually I can buy silver weapons, but right now that's not possible. Still, I have a few of each in my convoy, and some of the crit weapons, etc.

You can buy anything that's not a legendary/semi-legendary weapon at some point. Silver weapons should be available to buy soon, and I don't know about normal mode but silver is going to be standard enemy equipment soon if you're playing on hard.

 

[Trojita]

lol I leveled up once and I got no stats at all. I didn't hear a single ding after the level up thing. It was on my avatar too.