Is it still the case that a 4+10 is the same as a 5-star +5 if you are using skill inheritance for weapons/skills anyhow?
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Is it still the case that a 4+10 is the same as a 5-star +5 if you are using skill inheritance for weapons/skills anyhow?
Yes but the power creep is real so 5+5 is more valuable. Cecilia has one of the lowest BST in the game lol
ShadowSoldier89
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unless you are running her with a nonexistent firesweep sword, The -ATK is worse
IT BEGINS
BlueLiquid
Member
Figured I'd use my orbs from the Warriors maps (the musou element there is inspired, I must say) and I just pulled
Elincia!
another -atk
Wyndstryker
Member
I've learned that my luck shifts in gacha games.
So if I'm lucky in one game I'll be unlucky in another. Hence why I stopped playing Granblue Fantasy lol. If I start getting unlucky in FE:H then maybe Granblue becomes my lucky game.
pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
Lucky you! If you get like 5 more of those you'll merge them into a neutral attack Elincia.
Been looking through my units again as I feed various units away for SI. I have 8, 3* Eliwoods. This man haunts me like I have wronged him for preferring Hector hard mode. Possibly also because I plan to sacrifice his son to give someone TA3 someday. I would give it to Soren but - res curse. Hilariously both my nino are + res but I don't wanna build a whole team for Nino. I just need a blue killer mage to join B!Ike and BK on my future infantry team.
Up to 344 orbs saved with a few more to get from story and the new maps. If I can power through all of the TT teirs I should hit 400 in time for October. I really hope there's a Halloween banner with good units.
Is Michalis or Narcian the stronger male flying axe user?
Up to 344 orbs saved with a few more to get from story and the new maps. If I can power through all of the TT teirs I should hit 400 in time for October. I really hope there's a Halloween banner with good units.
Is Michalis or Narcian the stronger male flying axe user?
SI a couple for defensive goads.
He has spur res and ward cavalry, neither of which works for my current teams. Atk smoke 3 is actually more useful on bow Lyn until I grab Reinhardt to complete my primary horse team. Xander and Camus are running hone and fortify cavs.
"decent"
I am assuming they will have bad IVs.
I feel Desperation works best on Summer Corrin, but hit and run is good too.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
well can only run hit and run on melee
theprodigy
Member
....summer Corrin can't use Hit and Run anyway
I put hone and fortify on everyone on my cav team because I rather have the +12 in stats each give you then the -7 attack after Bow Lyn gives after attacking. It's not as good because enemies might not be in range yet
Alkez
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Ah man sorry to hear that. I got convinced by the thread to not spend money and it's bs like this that I'm glad I didn't. It's stupid the game isn't on Amazon. Could at least use coins for a good discount.
Came here to say my pity rate is at 4% for the second time this banner and see all these posts haha. What's really getting me is the fact I've only had a couple of 4 bases and the rest have been 3* bases as a 4*. My Hana 4* is at +6 from this banner alone. With the warriors orbs I got no red, no red, 4* Hana, 4* Stahl.
I'm currently running 3 cavs and a dancer so there's no guarantee the second hone would end up on someone atm, as it is aside from the first 1-2 turns depending on the map it's hard to keep the buffs up. Usually I prioritize lyn getting both if possible or lyn getting hone for sure and Xander getting fortify for sure. Once I have Reinhardt I'll be running double hone( lyn and xander) and double fortify (camus and Reinhardt) though. It's just atm I feel like atk smoke tends to be good enough even if it's not super reliable.
Team is forever a work in progress though. Recently swapped sacaes blessing out for desperation 3 on lyn except when knowing I'm gonna face a distant counter unit. Life is so much better now. I need to change Xander's vantage for qr3 and put ignis on him and I still need to farm sp to put vantage on Camus who recently picked up bonfire.
RNG
HoodWinked
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i built my cecilla completely wrong
SenorArdilla
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Down to 20k feathers after upgrading Cecilia. The +2 Def was totally worth it. Everyone in the 680~688 range is using BLyn.
Why even make Quadsuna? She's so underwhelming for a Life and Death 3 user.
Because she was the best until power creep happened.
theprodigy
Member
(she wasn't people were just drunk off quad hype)
Isn't it tomorrow
i thought it was 22nd.
She has two viable builds.
phoenix296
Member
i thought it was 22nd.
23rd. I don't care how many potions it takes, I'm getting him day 1.
Because I like the character and made her way before Bride Corderia was a thing, a time where a bow user doubling someone with a brave bow was unheard of...
She's still surprisingly effective against a decent portion of the cast. Just overshadowed by the two bow goddesses right now.
YOU TAKE THAT BACK.
;_;
Bamboo 竹
Member
So the 5* Marth I got from Elincia banner have +Spd/-HP IV... I hope someday we can inherit IV between same rank characters.
Sushen
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I'm sure I can do 30k in a day, because I did it even before the auto mode. It's just, it'll take the whole day leaving very little to take advantage of double SP weekend.
BrokenJohnCena
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tbf I'm just using Eliwood right now because his stats are slightly better than others,basically a filler.My team right now are:Brave Lyn,him,Jeogre and Serra
I'm reposting this because it's locked in the old thread (it's the only one I can remember finding) and I am forgetting multipliers that I need to see if a particular build will work.
The following information may be outdated as it doesn't include things like Cancel Affinity.
How much damage does a weapon deal?
(Atk*Multiplier) - Def = dmg
or
(Atk*Multiplier) - Res = dmg
So that is, your attack times the multiplier subtracted by the enemy defense or resistance which equals your damage. (Damage values are always rounded down.)
Weapons triangle:
On the weapon triangle, red beats green, green beats blue, etc.
If you have a weapon advantage on the weapon triangle, it will increase your attack by approximately 20% or 1.20 for your multiplier when you want to calculate it using the formula above.
If you have a weapon disadvantage on the weapon triangle, it will decrease your attack by 20% or 0.80 when you want to calculate it.
Same weapon colours give a multiplier of 1 so it is neutral.
Effective weapons:
If you are using a weapon that will be effective against a unit type, it will increase your attack by approximately 50% or 1.50 when you want to calculate it.
This includes weapons such as bows, poison daggers, armourslayers, hammers, heavy lances and Falchion.
When armourslayer which is red fights against a green armoured unit. The multiplier increases from 1.50 to 1.80 so you have a 80% increase to your attack.
When a red armourslayer fights a blue armoured unit. The multiplier goes from 1.50 to 1.20, your attack increase is only 20%.
Gem weapons:
Ruby, Emerald, Sapphire weapons increase your weapon triangle damage further or decrease it. It notes a 20% increase in damage in the weapon description.
If you have a weapon advantage with your gemmed weapon, it will increase your damage by 40% or 1.40 for the multiplier when you want to calculate it.
If you have a weapon disadvantage with your gemmed weapon, it will decrease your damage by 40% or 0.60 for the multiplier when you want to calculate it.
Same colour weapons are neutral again.
Weapons that give advantage over colourless foes:
It is the same as having a triangle weapon advantage.
So Male Robin, Cecilia and whoever else with their -raven tomes that give a weapon advantage against colourless units gives an increase of 20% to their attack or 1.20 for the multiplier.
The difference where it's not the same as an effective weapon is that the colourless enemy will suffer a triangle weapon disadvantage even though they don't have a triangle weapon.
Staves:
Healers who use staves have a 30% damage decrease to their attack when entering combat.
That is approximately 0.70 for the multiplier when calculating it. This doesn't apply to the skill that reverts the multiplier back to 1.
Effective Weapon + Triangle Adept:
This gives a larger multiplier than I expected. An effective weapon increases your damage by 50%, triangle weapon effects can increase or decrease it by 30% points. Triangle Adept adds another 30% points to that.
From testing Female Corrin with Triangle Adept against Marth, Marth's attack multiplier decreased to 0.9, so he had a 10% damage decrease.
However, if I was using Fae with Triangle Adept, Marth would have had an attack multiplier of 2.1 which means he would have had a damage increase of 110%.
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I haven't written up Cancel Affinity because there's some depth to it, it's supposed to affect those that use Triangle Adept by making Triangle Adept users get down to a damage multiplier of 1 (depending on their triangle Adept level). It doesn't affect -raven users that don't use Triangle Adept so they still get a damage multiplier of 1.2, I forget with regards to gem weapon users though.
The following information may be outdated as it doesn't include things like Cancel Affinity.
How much damage does a weapon deal?
(Atk*Multiplier) - Def = dmg
or
(Atk*Multiplier) - Res = dmg
So that is, your attack times the multiplier subtracted by the enemy defense or resistance which equals your damage. (Damage values are always rounded down.)
Weapons triangle:
On the weapon triangle, red beats green, green beats blue, etc.
If you have a weapon advantage on the weapon triangle, it will increase your attack by approximately 20% or 1.20 for your multiplier when you want to calculate it using the formula above.
If you have a weapon disadvantage on the weapon triangle, it will decrease your attack by 20% or 0.80 when you want to calculate it.
Same weapon colours give a multiplier of 1 so it is neutral.
Effective weapons:
If you are using a weapon that will be effective against a unit type, it will increase your attack by approximately 50% or 1.50 when you want to calculate it.
This includes weapons such as bows, poison daggers, armourslayers, hammers, heavy lances and Falchion.
When armourslayer which is red fights against a green armoured unit. The multiplier increases from 1.50 to 1.80 so you have a 80% increase to your attack.
When a red armourslayer fights a blue armoured unit. The multiplier goes from 1.50 to 1.20, your attack increase is only 20%.
Gem weapons:
Ruby, Emerald, Sapphire weapons increase your weapon triangle damage further or decrease it. It notes a 20% increase in damage in the weapon description.
If you have a weapon advantage with your gemmed weapon, it will increase your damage by 40% or 1.40 for the multiplier when you want to calculate it.
If you have a weapon disadvantage with your gemmed weapon, it will decrease your damage by 40% or 0.60 for the multiplier when you want to calculate it.
Same colour weapons are neutral again.
Weapons that give advantage over colourless foes:
It is the same as having a triangle weapon advantage.
So Male Robin, Cecilia and whoever else with their -raven tomes that give a weapon advantage against colourless units gives an increase of 20% to their attack or 1.20 for the multiplier.
The difference where it's not the same as an effective weapon is that the colourless enemy will suffer a triangle weapon disadvantage even though they don't have a triangle weapon.
Staves:
Healers who use staves have a 30% damage decrease to their attack when entering combat.
That is approximately 0.70 for the multiplier when calculating it. This doesn't apply to the skill that reverts the multiplier back to 1.
Effective Weapon + Triangle Adept:
This gives a larger multiplier than I expected. An effective weapon increases your damage by 50%, triangle weapon effects can increase or decrease it by 30% points. Triangle Adept adds another 30% points to that.
From testing Female Corrin with Triangle Adept against Marth, Marth's attack multiplier decreased to 0.9, so he had a 10% damage decrease.
However, if I was using Fae with Triangle Adept, Marth would have had an attack multiplier of 2.1 which means he would have had a damage increase of 110%.
____
I haven't written up Cancel Affinity because there's some depth to it, it's supposed to affect those that use Triangle Adept by making Triangle Adept users get down to a damage multiplier of 1 (depending on their triangle Adept level). It doesn't affect -raven users that don't use Triangle Adept so they still get a damage multiplier of 1.2, I forget with regards to gem weapon users though.
Anyway, I essentially went through all of the above because I needed to see if it was possible for Spring Camilla and Summer Corrin to survive against Brave Lyn if I gave them -raven tomes and Triangle Adept since I still essentially need more counters for Arena Assault to make it easy to win.
toastyToast
Member
If you have a unit that can solo challenge 5 hard that's 150 SP for 10 stamina.
kuroneko0509
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https://twitter.com/FE_Heroes_JP/status/911123022811095040
maintenance next week btw, for October update
maintenance next week btw, for October update
Any decent melee unit with any kind of self-healing (Renewal, Sol, Noontime, Aether, etc) can do that. Even characters who are far from "decent" may be able to do it.
And yes, FEW Camilla Hard which is conveniently leveled at 35 is the ideal SP farm for the month (besides TT for TT bonus chars of course).