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[Mupod]

If he has enough Res I wonder if Quick Riposte would be good for him. Would also help Aether trigger faster if that is a skill people keep.

this is what I was thinking as well. On Lucina I'd never use Aether, but with Quick Riposte, Heavy Blade and a tankier character it could work. Especially if the heal gets him back above QR range. It'd be nice if he can avoid being doubled by everything, but I don't think he needs to be a speed demon. Heavy Blade means no Fury which means he's not gonna be doubling the shit I see in arena anyways.

If I get him, knock on wood, his job will be green tomes almost exclusively. If his attack stat is high enough he won't need tomebreaker though. Fae and Tiki will become slightly bigger threats as he'd be replacing Lucina. I already have two very strong solutions for red swords and they aren't that common (nowadays).

Honestly I've already done most of this thinking for Xander, who I will go with if I find no other ranged counter red. If Ike's got stats like that but bent a little more towards Spd/Res than Def I'm happy.

 

[Blackquill]

Personal feelings about the characters aside, I would be pretty happy if any of these are as good as Nowi or Reinhardt. We'll see what the stats say but I'd be surprised.

Only Ike seems great to be honest

Still, Mist with spur def + res makes her really interesting

 

[Wyndstryker]

We all know they will drop garbage banners before the Tellius banner which will be before the summer/swimsuit banner.

Drain the orbs plan in motion.

I'll keep saying it. They drop Ike / Tellius then soon we'll be seeing swimsuit banners. Especially since Tellius looks like a good banner to pull.

 

[explodet]

Green tome users are already kinda stacked, Soren will have to work hard to distinguish himself. Watersweep might be good? Windsweep didn't exactly blow anybody away. so to speak.

Titania messing with special meters sounds like a riot, but I'll bet she'll be slow to compensate.

 

[Mupod]

there aren't a lot of options for axe horses so Titania could easily end up the best of those. This is the first emerald axe+ you can get without dropping 20k feathers on Arthur or Narcian too.

Soren, yeah, gonna be hard to beat Nino at her job.

 

[Ninferno]

Ike comes with Sword breaker as a preset skill. He is going to have low to middling speed. Hopefully he is in the 27-33 range and not 21-27 range. He'll probably be in between at 24-30.

Prediction time.

HP 42-48
Atk 34-40 (without weapon)
Spd 24-30
Def 27-33
Res 22-28

Pretty much what I'm expecting, except maybe Res which I suspect will be in the Lucina-Ryoma range.

 

[Man-is-Obsolete]

Pretty much what I'm expecting, except maybe Res which I suspect will be in the Lucina-Ryoma range.

My thought process is he would be trading Spd for Res and a slight Def increase.

 

[commish]

Do we have a release date set? Is it tomorrow?

 

[Ninferno]

Eh, he was actually fast and really overpowered in his games. He's supposed to be the uber unit. Give me my fast and powerful Ike.

Alm was actually fast and really overpowered in his game;
Seliph was actually fast and really overpowered in his game;
Chrom was actually not that slow and really overpowered in his game;
Robins were actually fast and really overpowered in their game;
Corrins were actually fast and really overpowered in their game.

Stop dreaming of your favorite units being as powerful as they were in their respective games or prepare to be disappointed, because they most certainly won't.

Heroes is a very different game of very different structure. There is a balance to be maintained here. Every unit of a certain type has roughly the same stats total before weapons and skills are applied. You can only do so much with "trading some stat A for stat B"; no one is going to be good in everything.

 

[Mupod]

Do we have a release date set? Is it tomorrow?

Yep.

 

[Weebos]

Watersweep seems like a really weird thing to give Soren, considering his skill in his games allowed him to double people more easily.

 

[spiritfox]

Want Titania, will probably draw Soren.

 

[commish]

Yep.

My wallet is ready. I have 14 gems atm.

 

[Blackquill]

Alm was actually fast and really overpowered in his game;
Seliph was actually fast and really overpowered in his game;
Chrom was actually not that slow and really overpowered in his game;
Robins was actually fast and really overpowered in their game;
Corrins was actually fast and really overpowered in their game.

Stop dreaming of your favorite units being as powerful as they were in their respective games or prepare to be disappointed, because they most certainly won't.

Heroes is a very different game of very different structure. There is a balance to be maintained here. Every unit of a certain type has roughly the same stats total before weapons and skills are applied. You can only do so much with "trade some stat A with stat B"; no one is going to be good in everything.

The difference with all of these guys is that Ike is a fan favorite, even more than Robin.

 

[spiritfox]

The difference with all of these guys is that Ike is a fan favorite, even more than Robin.

Well Lyn and Roy weren't OP broken or anything.

 

[Ninferno]

Watersweep seems like a really weird thing to give Soren, considering his skill in his games allowed him to double people more easily.

That's exactly what I thought too; I feel like something more in the vein of Darting Blow would have been more appropriate.

 

[Vena]

Alm was actually fast and really overpowered in his game;
Seliph was actually fast and really overpowered in his game;
Chrom was actually not that slow and really overpowered in his game;
Robins was actually fast and really overpowered in their game;
Corrins was actually fast and really overpowered in their game.

Stop dreaming of your favorite units being as powerful as they were in their respective games or prepare to be disappointed, because they most certainly won't.

Heroes is a very different game of very different structure. There is a balance to be maintained here. Every unit of a certain type has roughly the same stats total before weapons and skills are applied. You can only do so much with "trade some stat A with stat B"; no one is going to be good in everything.

Roy was crap in his game and is crap in this game.

Excellent.

 

[Ninferno]

The difference with all of these guys is that Ike is a fan favorite

And Lyn and Lucina aren't? Fans of "popular" characters will get treated by more character-themed events like Choose Your Lengend banner or whatever weird shit IS comes up with, not by getting super duper OP units that break the game.

 

[IceMarker]

I am so ready for Ike tomorrow

Spoiler

I only have 20 orbs ;_;

 

[Mupod]

man I've never actually even played path of radiance/radiant dawn. I remember trying to get a coworker to sell me his copy of PoR in like 2010 and he wouldn't go for it, gamecube game prices weren't even crazy yet. I kept hoping it'd show up on the Wii U VC but...yeah.

my friend has been playing through both recently, FE Heroes got him to finally do it. He keeps complaining how bullshit Radiant Dawn is. The main things I've taken away from his comments about the games as he goes through them is that Nephenee is amazing and Soren is Ike's wife.

 

[Xist2inspire]

Hey IS, please stop giving me reasons to snipe green and blue already! I have way too many of them.

Titania's one of the few pre-Awakening characters that I already knew of and liked thanks to one of my old Nintendo Power magazines. I think she has a great design and is definitely who I want most from this banner.

 

[theprodigy]

Alm was actually fast and really overpowered in his game;
Seliph was actually fast and really overpowered in his game;
Chrom was actually not that slow and really overpowered in his game;
Robins was actually fast and really overpowered in their game;
Corrins was actually fast and really overpowered in their game.

Stop dreaming of your favorite units being as powerful as they were in their respective games or prepare to be disappointed, because they most certainly won't.

Heroes is a very different game of very different structure. There is a balance to be maintained here. Every unit of a certain type has roughly the same stats total before weapons and skills are applied. You can only do so much with "trade some stat A with stat B"; no one is going to be good in everything.

you forgot:

Ike was not as good as any of the above except for Chrom in his own games (and even here, RD Ike>Chrom>>>>PoR Ike).

 

[kewlmyc]

Ike tomorrow? Time to either get super lucky or throw some money down. Red, Blue (hope for Linde), or Green for me. Drawing colorless is pointless at this point.

 

[Man-is-Obsolete]

They need to release a healer GHB unit that has an A skill that negates the dmg penalty on healers. That would be a really cool skill, and shake up the meta game.

 

[Whizkid7]

Aw shit, Ike already? I'm not ready yet so soon after Bunnygirls! Time to clear out some missions...

 

[Alucrid]

34 orbs, shouldn't have tried to get a reinhardt

 

[Technoweirdo]

They need to release a healer GHB unit that has an A skill that negates the dmg penalty on healers. That would be a really cool skill, and shake up the meta game.

Oliver for PoR GHB unit plz. Get bent, Black Knight. :x

 

[Akuun]

They need to release a healer GHB unit that has an A skill that negates the dmg penalty on healers. That would be a really cool skill, and shake up the meta game.

My Elise is +atk. She's just waiting to become a killing machine!

 

[Theosmeo]

Green tome users are already kinda stacked, Soren will have to work hard to distinguish himself. Watersweep might be good? Windsweep didn't exactly blow anybody away. so to speak.

Titania messing with special meters sounds like a riot, but I'll bet she'll be slow to compensate.

Throw a blade tome on soren and maybe he can have enough might that only attacking once is enough. His magic stat was busted in the original so his attack stat might be too

 

[Blackquill]

Huh why healers have a damage penalty already ?

 

[DecoReturns]

Finally Ike.

130 orbs ready. Mist looks awful unfortunately

 

[Mupod]

Throw a blade tome on soren and maybe he can have enough might that only attacking once is enough. His magic stat was busted in the original so his attack stat might be too

I have a +atk blade tome Linde and I thought about Watersweep. But I feel like it'd be a downgrade over Desperation for practical use.

 

[kewlmyc]

Huh why healers have a damage penalty already ?

I guess the logic was that they didn't want to make them to OP. Think of Nino if she could also heal others to full health.

 

[Roman]

I guess the logic was that they didn't want to make them to OP. Think of Nino if she could also heal others to full health.

But you can do that with Reciprocal Aid/Ardent Sacrifice which also immediately gets Nino into Desperation range.

 

[kewlmyc]

But you can do that with Reciprocal Aid/Ardent Sacrifice which also immediately gets Nino into Desperation range.

I know, I'm running that setup. Yeah, those heal, but it comes at a cost to the "healer" and isn't a good source for healing.

I was speaking more of a character that has 50 atk damage and can also use Rehabilitate to heal their front liners to max health whenever they wanted. I'm guessing IS wanted to avoid that.

 

[Weebos]

They need to release a healer GHB unit that has an A skill that negates the dmg penalty on healers. That would be a really cool skill, and shake up the meta game.

Who would even be a GHB Healer? Riev I guess? Oliver is also an option.

Kenneth if we're scraping the bottom of the barrel.

More than I thought actually.

 

[SenorArdilla]

They need to put in Arvis so I can meteor everything.

EDIT:
Put in Rafiel so greens have a dancer.

 

[GoldCrusader]

Who would even be a GHB Healer? Riev I guess? Oliver is also an option.

Kenneth if we're scraping the bottom of the barrel.

More than I thought actually.

Sephiran and those last boss saints from RD.

 

[Dee Dee]

Why am I playing the German version of this game again?
I have this Pokemon syndrome where the names I know are so crazy different from the names other people know that I'm never able to properly talk about that game.
I was wondering who the fvck everyone is talking about... Mist? What?

(Translator's note: "Mist" is German for "Manure" / "Garbage")

She's called Alja in German.

 

[ShakuganSan]

It's frustrating that I can't remember how I beat these GHB before, trying to beat them again and I just get shit on. Wasted almost all 99 stamina points trying to do the Navarre quest today.

 

[Man-is-Obsolete]

It's frustrating that I can't remember how I beat these GHB before, trying to beat them again and I just get shit on. Wasted almost all 99 stamina points trying to do the Navarre quest today.

I forgot how hard the Robin one was. A lot of the other ones you can avoid WTA, but you almost can't on that one.

 

[Akuun]

I'm really struggling on the "beat FRobin with FRobin" orb quest. It's hard to put an underleveled FRobin in such a cramped area without getting someone killed or accidentally killing the enemy FRobin.

 

[Roman]

We've added the Nino Bot to the Discord server linked in the OP.

With simple commands you can now quickly receive information on weapons, skills, heroes, inheritance, banners, arena bonus, and even let it calculate your team's base stat total.

 

[Mupod]

I'm really struggling on the "beat FRobin with FRobin" orb quest. It's hard to put an underleveled FRobin in such a cramped area without getting someone killed or accidentally killing the enemy FRobin.

Not of much help to most people, but that one was really easy for me. I move Vantage Hector out with an attack buff and in one turn he kills or severely wounds everybody except for one lance guy, Hector ends up with 12 hp remaining. He has Bonfire charged and one shots the bottom lance guy, leaving only a damaged blue and FRobin. I was able to clean up both with a level 38 FRobin and a dancer. 2 turns cleared, not counting positioning at the start.

I was trying to think of a way for my friend to do it with his team. He has a Julia so I suggested he res buff her and try that. I don't think she'd one shot or double FRobin, and she'd probably survive the red mage. You'd need to get her out of dodge once the melee moved up but FRobin can definitely kill those on her own.

 

[Akuun]

Oof. I don't have Hector, but I've been trying something similar with Nowi. She was able to bring everyone low but didn't quite kill people, so the first turn with her there leaves her with like 4-5 super low health units to deal with, and very low health herself. I don't think that's something that a 3* level 29ish FRobin can deal with.

Maybe I can try to heal Nowi at least once with Physick from behind the wall. It's the cramped conditions that are screwing me over right now.

 

[kewlmyc]

I'm really struggling on the "beat FRobin with FRobin" orb quest. It's hard to put an underleveled FRobin in such a cramped area without getting someone killed or accidentally killing the enemy FRobin.

Might not be the answer you're looking for, but you might have to just train your FRobin up to level 40 to stand a chance. What level is she at?

 

[Alucrid]

4682, not bad. i lost a nino in one round because my finger slipped and i moved her without attacking

 

[commish]

It's frustrating that I can't remember how I beat these GHB before, trying to beat them again and I just get shit on. Wasted almost all 99 stamina points trying to do the Navarre quest today.

Everyone should develop a physical tank and a magic tank, and it will make nearly every one of these challenges a lot easier. I don't mean you need hector, but anything that can tank some hits and help separate the enemies makes things sooooo much easier.

 

[GoldCrusader]

Wait soooooo Guard makes it so that nobody can ever start with a special against you? that's pretty great! If your fast enough, that means you could special block an enemy.

 

[Maxinas]

Hell yeah, can't wait to pull a -Atk Ike.