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[SliceSabre]

I like ATiki too, but I feel like she's a weird sort of specialist that doesn't work as a replacement to a typical red sword. She's great against green melees, but has a near-fatal weakness to magic in exchange for being good against dagger and bow users.

If you want to stick with Eirika, try putting Triangle Adept (2 is fine) and Swordbreaker on her. It lets her kill Hector and any red lord who doesn't also have Swordbreaker, while making her a pretty decent green mage tank.

Actually, TA and Swordbreaker on any red sword makes them pretty good. I have that on Olivia and she's become pretty good in a fight.

This one doesn't show it but she also carries the +RES seal as well to boost Nino a bit more.

She most commonly ends up be the unit I use to guard against Hectors outside of looking after Nino. But I'll take your suggestion into consideration for her.

 

[Akuun]

It's unfortunate you feel this way, but if it helps, mkv has done it with free 4*s.

Thanks, I'll give this a shot. I've been looking for a strategy with easier units, but couldn't find it amidst everyone going "just use <super specific unit>"

 

[Duane Cunningham]

This is my main team right now. I have no inheritance skills on any of them. I'm going to finally delve into inheritance skills. Do these seem like the right choices?

Hector - Vantage
Lucina - Fury
Olivia - Ruby Sword
Bridal Lyn - ???

 

[Sushen]

Had a debate with a friend if I've got something her or that this is a 22k feather mistake in the making.

Part of it is is that I just really want to use Tiki despite her being +HP,-DEF

If you are seeking moral support on uour decision, this is a game that we play with our favorite units. Some may not be optimal, but if you like it that's all it matters.

I like Jaffar, which may not be the best ninja in the game, but he's one of 7 units that I maxed 2000 hero merit points.

 

[Mupod]

This is my main team right now. I have no inheritance skills on any of them. I'm going to finally delve into inheritance skills. Do these seem like the right choices?

Hector - Vantage
Lucina - Fury
Olivia - Ruby Sword
Bridal Lyn - ???

Vantage/Bonfire for Hector. C skill can be whatever, I use Hone Speed. Threaten Def is nice too if you want a selfish Hector.

Fury is good on everyone, especially Lucina due to her regen. B slot, maybe Swordbreaker so she can deal with stock Ikes and all other red swords. Luna for special, Aether if you need more arena points.

Ruby Sword is great on Olivia, yeah. Wings of Mercy is extremely useful on dancers. For specials I just use escutcheon on my dancers, saves them once in a while.

I don't think anything matters on Bride Lyn as she's a very specific kind of niche unit. Seems she comes with Rehabilitate so that's fine already. I personally don't run healers so I dunno what special is good.

 

[Sushen]

This one doesn't show it but she also carries the +RES seal as well to boost Nino a bit more.

She most commonly ends up be the unit I use to guard against Hectors outside of looking after Nino. But I'll take your suggestion into consideration for her.

I have a 4* Eirika that I've been benching due to atk+/spd- nature. Looking at your unit, I guess, spd- on her isn't terrible?

 

[Duane Cunningham]

Vantage/Bonfire for Hector. C skill can be whatever, I use Hone Speed. Threaten Def is nice too if you want a selfish Hector.

Fury is good on everyone, especially Lucina due to her regen. B slot, maybe Swordbreaker so she can deal with stock Ikes and all other red swords. Luna for special, Aether if you need more arena points.

Ruby Sword is great on Olivia, yeah. Wings of Mercy is extremely useful on dancers. For specials I just use escutcheon on my dancers, saves them once in a while.

I don't think anything matters on Bride Lyn as she's a very specific kind of niche unit. Seems she comes with Rehabilitate so that's fine already. I personally don't run healers so I dunno what special is good.

Awesome, thanks! Bride Lyn is kind of a recent development. She bumped M Robin, but I may go back to him.

 

[Mupod]

Awesome, thanks! Bride Lyn is kind of a recent development. She bumped M Robin, but I may go back to him.

Thinking about it, using Bride Lyn your team is going to be 100% reliant on Lucina for killing stuff. Debuff with Lyn, kill with Lucina, heal up the Fury self-damage. I dunno how well that team would work in practice but you could probably kite a lot of things to death.

Speaking of which, Pivot on Hector and maybe Reposition on Lucina. You'll need those to keep Hector out of trouble.

 

[Freaking Limit]

I have a 4* Eirika that I've been benching due to atk+/spd- nature. Looking at your unit, I guess, spd- on her isn't terrible?

Erika isn't normally used as a combat unit. She is mostly used to buff things, since she can naturally provide 2 fairly strong buffs. This also works well with movement skills or hp trading skills, in that she can act as a full support with Reposition, Drag Back, Reciprocal aid or Ardent Sacrifice Her speed is low with -Speed, but her benefits are high so its worth using her anyway. She should be able to take a hit from most swords and greens, so sword breaker is a good B slot to help her kill those faster red swords. You can give her Speed+3 in her A slot (Or Fury) to help her out, and if you like using her to buff, run her with someone who has Hone SPeed 3 so you can forget about speed issues. I run my +Def/-Speed Erika with a Blade Tome Linde who has Hone speed and she does really well. She can take a hit from quite a few units, including blues and she won't be doubled by many of them (unless they run sword breaker).

 

[SliceSabre]

I have a 4* Eirika that I've been benching due to atk+/spd- nature. Looking at your unit, I guess, spd- on her isn't terrible?

I think I'm partly able to make her work because mine is +DEF,-SPD which doesn't negatively affect the way I use her with Nino. Her boon in DEF is +4 instead of the usually +3. She can hold her own against other reds and of course greens. She's a whole lot more useful than I thought she would be. Plus in a fight she usually has Nino's Hone Atk3 buff on her.

 

[Pejo]

So I need to grind 16 more runs of 5-round Hard in the tempest today after work to get "Marth". I've been putting it off for quite a while now, I need to just suck it up and go for it.

Not a fan of this new difficulty in the Legion GHB. I can't even make it past the first round without losing someone.

 

[Drkirby]

Ah, so if I just gave Ephraim some different buffs, he would work just as well as a Nino Buffer, right?

 

[dreamlongdead]

I don't have many Orbs at the moment, so this game will be a little dry for me. I've been playing since day 1 and these are the 4* Heroes that I have not summoned at all:

Tharja
Eirika
Effie
Clair
Mae
Hawkeye
Sheena
Boey
Soren
Jeorge
Kagero

The bolded Heroes are the most desired ones. Hawkeye is the only Hero who gives Threaten Attack 3 at 4*, so I do want him eventually. 5* Hawkeye will always be useful because of instant DB3. The rest are solid units, but I don't need them as much as the bolded.

I hope Katarina gets becomes summonable at 4* down the line just so I can possibly have another decent Red Mage. I think she has the highest chance, because her skills do not impact the metagame as much as the other banner units.

Roderick will probably remain 5*, because I don't think the developers want Firesweep Lance+ to be attainable from a 4* summon.

 

[Daria Morgendorffer]

Just got a 5* Effie, is a normal Brave Lance still good on her? I'm f2p so I don't really have any Brave Lance+

 

[Roman]

I'm not the biggest fan of Tiki, I think she's the weakest of all dragons. What's your reason for promoting her? Just curious.

I find Corrin even more useless to be honest. We're pushing them both down to A.

I know how you feel. I've spent a lot trying to make ATiki work, with mixed success.

Her biggest problems are low Resistance and Speed. She just currently can't fulfill her role as a tank as well as Young Tiki.

Just got a 5* Effie, is a normal Brave Lance still good on her? I'm f2p so I don't really have any Brave Lance+

With her 40 base Atk this is still extremely powerful. Donnel isn't exactly a rare pull either so you can just upgrade later.

 

[commish]

I wish we could concert feathers into SP. I have 83,000 feathers. I would love to be able to concert 1000 feathers into 100 SP or something like that.

 

[Wiseblade]

I wish we could concert feathers into SP. I have 83,000 feathers. I would love to be able to concert 1000 feathers into 100 SP or something like that.

Really? I was just thinking the opposite. I'm now drowning in SP for skillset complete characters and would never say no to more Feathers.

 

[MANUELF]

I wish we could concert feathers into SP. I have 83,000 feathers. I would love to be able to concert 1000 feathers into 100 SP or something like that.

If you havent you should upgrade the starting trio into 5* so you can always have a bonus unit in arena

PS: What is the best buid for a +SPD -DEF Ike? Im thinking of putting Vantage, Heavy Blade and something else

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

whats with the super high power/defense medics in the tempest trials :/

 

[Draxal]

whats with the super high power/defense medics in the tempest trials :/

Boey and Merric become really really annoying in Tempest for me.

 

[Zera_Bloodwinter]

I need help. I'm losing my mind with this Tempest Trial and I don't know what to do. Be forewarned this is going to be long. I need help trying to figure out what team(s) to use for the trial. I have not been successful in the 7 stage so I've been sticking to 5 stage lunatic.

Units - all 5* lvl 40

Tharja: 39 hp, 42 atk, 34 spd, 26 def, 20 res.
Rauro Blade + - Reposition - Luna - Darting Blow 3, Desperation 3, Spur Speed 2.

Nino - 33 hp, 50 atk, 37 spd, 18 def, 22 res.
Gronnblade + - Draw Back - Draconic Aura - Life and Death 2 / Fury 3 - Desperation 3, Hone attack 3.

Kagero: 31 hp, 44 atk, 39 spd, 18 def, 24 res.
Poison Dagger + - Reposition - Retribution (I know this needs to go, nothing else to replace atm - Life and Death 2 - Vantage 2 - Hone Atk 2. (I know I need to get Death Blow and the final stages of L&D and Vantage, just don't have any units to pull them from.

Lucina - 43 hp, 57 atk, 40 spd, 18 def, 15 res.
Falchion - Pivot / Recip Aid - Luna - Life and Death 3 - Vantage 3 / Desperation 3 / Renewal 2 - Spur Atk 3. ( Currently only have access to L&D 2 and Vantage 2, need more points for lvl 3). Should she be pseudo healer or dps?

Xander: 44 hp, 48 atk, 24 spd, 37 def, 17 res.
Siegfried - no support skill (big problem, working on it, has reposition but not enough points) - Death Blow 3 - Vantage 3 - Spur Def 1 (I don't run horse emblem so only other horse would be Reinhardt. What should I put for his C skill?)

Nowi: 45 hp, 48 atk, 27 spd, 27 def, 27 res.
Lightning Breath+ - Draw Back - Moonbow - Darting Blow 3 (need points) - Triangle Adept 3 - Quick Riposte 2 (no 3) - Sword Breaker 2 (no 3 yet again) - Threaten Res 2 (need points for 3).

Linde: 39 hp, 49 atk, 36 spd, 14 def, 27 res.
Aura - Ardent Sacrifice - Moonbow - Speed 3 / Fury 3 - Vantage 2 (need points for 3) - Sword Break 2 (need points for 3) - Savage Blow 2 (need points for 3) - Fortify Res 1 (need points for 3).

Reinhardt: 34 hp, 45 atk, 22 spd, 26 def, 21 res.
Dire Thunder - Draw Back - Rising Thunder (need a moon bow) - Fury 3 / Life and Death 2 - Vantage 3 - Spur attack 2 or Goad Cavalry / Hone atk 3

Minerva: 40 hp, 52 atk, 41 spd, 24 def, 17 res.
Hauteclere - No support skill (but trying to get a reposition or draw back) - Holy Vestments (need a better skill here) - Life and Death 3 - Vantage 2 (need points for 3) - Spur Def 3 / ward flyers / threaten def 3.


Olivia lvl 36, not 40: 33 hp, 40 atk, 30 spd, 22 def, 26 res.
Silver Sword + - Dance - no ult skill - Triangle Adept 2 - Knock Back - Hone Atk 3.


Ninian who's only lvl 27 because lvling dancers sucks!
Eirika but not leveled up.
Camus but not leveled up
Liliana lvl 40 +1 with base skills.


I basically need advice on what you think I can improve on and how (what skills should I change/use), as well as what teams to build for the Tempest.

Main Tempest team has been Tharja, Rein, Kagero, Oliva or Rein, Kagero, Olivia, Nino with a back up team of Lucina/Xander/Tharja if she's not in team 1, Linde, Ninian, Minerva.

 

[Mupod]

I need help. I'm losing my mind with this Tempest Trial and I don't know what to do. Be forewarned this is going to be long. I need help trying to figure out what team(s) to use for the trial. I have not been successful in the 7 stage so I've been sticking to 5 stage lunatic.

Units - all 5* lvl 40

...

I basically need advice on what you think I can improve on and how (what skills should I change/use), as well as what teams to build for the Tempest.

Main Tempest team has been Tharja, Rein, Kagero, Oliva or Rein, Kagero, Olivia, Nino with a back up team of Lucina/Xander/Tharja if she's not in team 1, Linde, Ninian, Minerva.

Try giving Hone Cavalry to Xander and running him with Reinhardt. Use Olivia along with them - put Wings of Mercy on her, very useful when everyone starts getting low HP. Maybe even put Escape Route on Reinhardt to have two teleporting cheaters. Fourth unit can be whoever, Camus would work but then you'd lack a green so maybe Minerva?

Clear as fast as you can and make it to the final map, then surrender and bring in a team with Tharja for bonus (maybe g tomebreaker and triangle adept if you want a hard counter for Veronica). I usually use the same team of azura, TA2/Quick Riposte 2 MRobin, Hector and Sanaki. I very rarely swap in Linde instead of Hector against extremely red compositions.

This is a lot of work considering you only have a couple days. But just giving some ideas.

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

Boey and Merric become really really annoying in Tempest for me.

iirc any red Sword/Mage can handle them well


Ran into a Genny medic that OHKOd my SI Takumi. I've noticed these medics* handle pretty much any mage I throw at it lol

 

[Zera_Bloodwinter]

Thanks for the ideas. I've been in the tempest and doing "ok". I'm sitting at 35k points, trying to get that last 15k for the Seal.

Try giving Hone Cavalry to Xander and running him with Reinhardt. Use Olivia along with them - put Wings of Mercy on her, very useful when everyone starts getting low HP. Maybe even put Escape Route on Reinhardt to have two teleporting cheaters. Fourth unit can be whoever, Camus would work but then you'd lack a green so maybe Minerva?

Clear as fast as you can and make it to the final map, then surrender and bring in a team with Tharja for bonus (maybe g tomebreaker and triangle adept if you want a hard counter for Veronica). I usually use the same team of azura, TA2/Quick Riposte 2 MRobin, Hector and Sanaki. I very rarely swap in Linde instead of Hector against extremely red compositions.

This is a lot of work considering you only have a couple days. But just giving some ideas.

 

[Mupod]

My counter for Tempest Trial stat inflation was to inflate my stats even higher. Go blade tomes. 40 res healer? Nope, you're still getting one shotted.

I dread the next one when they put Panic Ploy on every single enemy unit, lol.

 

[commish]

Give the power of horse emblem, and given the fact that we've received a number of solid horse units for free, I think everyone should have a horse emblem team. You don't need Reinhardt to destroy with one. My #1 killer on my horse emblem team for this tempesttrial was Cecilia.

 

[Mupod]

Give the power of horse emblem, and given the fact that we've received a number of solid horse units for free, I think everyone should have a horse emblem team. You don't need Reinhardt to destroy with one. My #1 killer on my horse emblem team for this tempesttrial was Cecilia.

I have a +atk, gronnblade+ Cecilia with draconic aura. Its like watching an episode of One Punch Man.

Camus and Ursula are also on my team and were promoted free units, yeah. I'd have Xander too if I had feathers, but I've grown attached to Eldigan and his -1 special counter.

 

[lt519]

My Camus is ready, Fury 3/Vantage 3/Goad/Moonbow/Reposition. Deciding whether to use Olivia or Titania is going to be the question. Titania still doesn't have her A or B skills filled out so I won't score as high with her.

So oddly enough next two weeks will likely be the exact same as the last two. We'll see if 4810 can get me to T20 or not.

 

[Mupod]

My Camus is ready, Fury 3/Vantage 3/Goad/Moonbow/Reposition. Deciding whether to use Olivia or Titania is going to be the question. Titania still doesn't have her A or B skills filled out so I won't score as high with her.

So oddly enough next two weeks will likely be the exact same as the last two. We'll see if 4810 can get me to T20 or not.

no way in hell. I'm not even gonna try, just gonna get my 4000 score and take a trip back down to 18.

 

[Akuun]

whats with the super high power/defense medics in the tempest trials :/

Cause they all have stupid high speed stats that prevent doubles. Add high res/def and lol.

Fuck Rogue Dagger users too. I ran into a Matthew with like 46-50 defense and 42-45 speed after Rogue Dagger kicks in.

 

[commish]

no way in hell. I'm not even gonna try, just gonna get my 4000 score and take a trip back down to 18.

Same. I'm happy to just bounce between the ranks. I just don't have enough plus units to score highly, even with perfect runs.

 

[CuthbertAllgoodz]

Looks like I will make it to T20 with 4858 points. Can still drop by about 300 ranks and still go up (good thing it ends in 3 hours). I think that I could move between 19 and 20 if I want to put the effort. However, it will probably look more like 19,20,19,18,19,20 or something because I am not ready to invest into any of the bonus unit for this week.

Should suck it up and 5* the starters to "safely" stay between 19 and 20... I just have so many projects going on and I need my feathers!

 

[Sushen]

I have a +atk, gronnblade+ Cecilia with draconic aura. Its like watching an episode of One Punch Man.
.

As much as I like my 4* atk+ Cecilia, she doesn't give me the same death machine feeling like Reinhardt or Nino who doubles most. Cecilia is too slow. Probably others are buffing her beyond hone and fortify cavalry and using blade tome+, while mine is a regular blade tome.

 

[Spoit]

As much as I like my 4* atk+ Cecilia, she doesn't give me the same death machine feeling like Reinhardt or Nino who doubles most. Cecilia is too slow. Probably others are buffing her beyond hone and fortify cavalry and using blade tome+, while mine is a regular blade tome.

She works really well against these ridiculous tempest trial dudes, but she really needs to have her cheerleaders backing her up. Unlike Reinhardt, who can stomp a whole arena team without any Calvary support

 

[SerArthurDayne]

Mission accomplished. Reinhardt and Masked Marth(obviously) started at 0. I'm not sure how many stamina pots I used. I burned about 10 total, but that includes Legion and Zephiel, and leveling Masked Marth, so maybe 5-6 for the actual tempest.

89,425 points in tempest ranked 2,423. I'm gonna aim for top 1k.

Not possible unless you have pots or orbs to burn. Guy on Reddit claimed to be 1000 with 108,000 points several hours ago.

I'm at 100k now I can do it

You can, but you'll have to burn pots or orbs. They are already 10 ahead of you, and obviously they didn't stop after the last reward, so they have the same time to put the even more distance between you. I wish you well, though. Let us know if you pull it off.

 

[Juni_]

I'm at 100k now I can do it

100,684 ranked 1,784

 

[Sterok]

Got to 80K. That's enough Tempest for me. Need to train Athena for the arena now. Will probably put Desperation on her.

 

[SenorArdilla]

Currently at 90099. 9900 more to go.

 

[Rutger]

Looks like I'm gonna stop after I get 5* masked Marth, only a few hundred away and I don't think I care enough about this game that the extra grind for Quickened Pulse will be worth it, haha.

I started playing this a few months late and I'm F2P, so I just don't have good enough characters built up to get many wins, but losing on Lunatic is better for points than winning on something lower. The whole thing just hasn't been fun. Hopefully I'll have better teams the next time it shows up.

 

[MildSoss]

So what are the go to buffs for a cavalry team?

 

[Ghost is Bad]

hone and fortify cavalry on your non blade tome members. Goad Cavalry on everyone else.

 

[ggx2ac]

Even though I wasn't trying to get her in the banner, I like Athena. Would have been nice if she was Res down, Speed Up rather than Def down, Speed up.

I only bothered leveling up Masked Lucina because she's&#8203; 5* and I'm not going to bother giving her skills, I'd probably need her for a quest later on like a repeat GHB.

 

[The_White_Rose]

Moved up up Tier 19. Just going to relax this week after 4k points.

 

[lt519]

no way in hell. I'm not even gonna try, just gonna get my 4000 score and take a trip back down to 18.

Yeah I'm fine bouncing between the two, I'll do a quick run not hand picking fights to get 4800~ and then try and hand pick all 690 fights and see if that can push me up. Being Top 30% of the 40% that moved up this week gives me hope, but all them T20 folks moving down this week are probably all going to score higher. Not sure there's much else I can do but merge some more characters or run Nowi instead of Olivia. A dip in overall scores could be possible since no more Olivia.

 

[SerArthurDayne]

I think I'm officially in the worst "drought" of my pulling career. I have now spent approximately 170 orbs on the vantage banner and gotten one Reinhardt and no other five stars out of it.

And I haven't even gotten much good fodder either, because I'm typically only pulling blue.

Back down to 1 orb. I'll get 4 more from the next Arena session, two more from the reset tonight and one from Sunday. But beyond that there's no guaranteed orbs between now and the end of banner if they stop daily orbs, so I'll only have one pull left. If they keep daily orbs in which case I'll have two-three. Of course Reinhardt came in the middle, so my rate is only 4%, so lets see how lucky I can get.

Or hope for surprise quests, or a successful Tempest Trials gift of 10 orbs or so.

 

[toastyToast]

At 40k in Tempest trials. Can't hold on much longer

 

[Sushen]

I think I'm officially in the worst "drought" of my pulling career. I have now spent approximately 170 orbs on the vantage banner and gotten one Reinhardt and no other five stars out of it.

And I haven't even gotten much good fodder either, because I'm typically only pulling blue.

Back down to 1 orb. I'll get 4 more from the next Arena session, two more from the reset tonight and one from Sunday. But beyond that there's no guaranteed orbs between now and the end of banner if they stop daily orbs, so I'll only have one pull left. If they keep daily orbs in which case I'll have two-three. Of course Reinhardt came in the middle, so my rate is only 4%, so lets see how lucky I can get.

Or hope for surprise quests, or a successful Tempest Trials gift of 10 orbs or so.

I've been there. My only advice is that unless you're willing to pay regularly, you are better off with full pulls. Sure, it's less likely get the exact unit you want but there will be a few nice surprises in between.

Of course nothing is guaranteed and it's better to work with what's given, again, unless you're willing to pay up. Being back to a F2P, I don't get as many units I desire as used to, but I feel more sane for sure if you see what I mean.

 

[SenorArdilla]

We'll probably be getting 5 orbs because of the Legion map bug.

 

[dreamlongdead]

I've been there. My only advice is that unless you're willing to pay regularly, you are better off with full pulls. Sure, it's less likely get the exact unit you want but there will be a few nice surprises in between.

Of course nothing is guaranteed and it's better to work with what's given, again, unless you're willing to pay up. Being back to a F2P, I don't get as many units I desire as used to, but I feel more sane for sure if you see what I mean.

I agree with this response. I hunted for Bridal Cordelia, and it took me about 120 Orbs. It almost came down to the wire, too. The +SPD/-RES nature made it all worth it, but I cannot do this again with future banners, especially since I am F2P at the moment.

I'm just going to save up. I hope I can get some good skill fodder and new units when I summon.

 

[Wiseblade]

45k in Tempest Trials and motivation is REALLY hard to come by.