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DeSo

Banned
Any way to combine the stop and refresh buttons with the omnibar addon active? They're separate buttons and I can't even move the stop button with the omnibar active.

Edit: This fixed itself.
 

-Winnie-

Member
Is it just me, or does text display smaller now? Any way to change it back?

[edit]Looks like it was a hardware acceleration thing. I turned it off and that fixed the text, but am I missing out on anything by leaving it off?
 

ollin

Member
Probably been asked before but is there any way to move the tab location. I liked it where it was before.

EDIT: NVM found it.
 

Liquidus

Aggressively Stupid
Well I knew this would happen sooner or later. I really liked FireFox 4 but it's not supported on my Mac:( No PowerPc support makes me a sad panda.
 

Fatalah

Member
Installed at work, and now on my home computer. Loads pages really fast.

What happened to redirect feature? Like if you were to type "neogaf" in the address bar, you'd be redirected to Google's feeling lucky page.

Also -- What is autoscrolling? I never notice a difference when I turn it on...
 

Chanser

Member
-Winnie- said:
Is it just me, or does text display smaller now? Any way to change it back?

[edit]Looks like it was a hardware acceleration thing. I turned it off and that fixed the text, but am I missing out on anything by leaving it off?

Your missing out GPU acceleration. If you still want hardware acceleration without the weird text go to about:config, look for gfx.direct2d.disabled and turn it to true.
 

AndyD

aka andydumi
Korey said:
What does the "omnibar addon" do that the default address bar doesnt?

Omnibar combines the address bar and search bar. So you get both types of results and also google autosuggest and stuff like that. Its not a huge thing but lots of people like it.
 

Darkmakaimura

Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
AndyMoogle said:
I'd like to know that as well. Unless you have less than 1GB I can't see it being a problem at all.
Currently, I'm using a netbook with 1GB RAM. Should I avoid 4?
 
Firefox Sync is the baddest-ass shit in the history of badass. Imagine Google Chrome-to-Phone only it works on every Firefox you have installed anywhere.
 

AndyD

aka andydumi
Unknown Soldier said:
Firefox Sync is the baddest-ass shit in the history of badass. Imagine Google Chrome-to-Phone only it works on every Firefox you have installed anywhere.

I still have issues with its bookmark sync so I turned it off and use Xmarks.

Sometimes it has issues with recent changes for me. If I add a bookmark at work, it will sync. Then when I get home it will sync and not download the new bookmark. Then back at work it will actually erase the new bookmark. So I guess it has issues with recent time stamps or something. Or being logged in in multiple places at once.

But when it works, it works. It is badass.
 
If you go to about:config and leave gfx.direct2d.disabled on false, but set gfx.font_rendering.directwrite.enabled to true, you can force FF4 to obey Windows ClearType settings. Then you can use the ClearType Tuner ActiveX object in XP or the built-in ClearType Tuner in Vista/7 to set the ClearType fonts to super-dark and super-thick, this makes FF4 readable with hardware acceleration enabled. The only drawback to this is all the fonts on your machine look all super-dark and super-thick now. You would think after a decade, Microsoft would have figured out a way to make ClearType always look good, but oh well.
 

Trojita

Rapid Response Threadmaker
I fixed the blurry text with the info provided in this thread.

I'm having a problem now with my reload button disappearing.

I moved the X "Stop" Button, the reload button, and the home button all to the left. If I put the X button and the reload button next to each other they would morph into one. If I placed them in a different way they would be fine, but after using FF4 for awhile the reload would disappear. Also the reload had a habit being grayed out and wouldn't let me reload a page.
 

Corran Horn

May the Schwartz be with you
Just got...first thing was first, had to move the tabs below the url and bookmarks. I dont like the design so much but feels good.


edit: wow this text is horrible.
 

Blackface

Banned
Is this the official release?

Chrome has been giving me nothing but problems since I installed it. WPadmin, streaming, crashing, pages randomly won't load.

Would love to go back to FF.

When I tried the 4 beta I couldn't view more then a handful of pages without the browser buckling.
 

quaere

Member
Liquidus said:
Well I knew this would happen sooner or later. I really liked FireFox 4 but it's not supported on my Mac:( No PowerPc support makes me a sad panda.
You can run Firefox 4 on PowerPC.

TenFourFox - http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/
Firefox 4 with custom PPC specific JavaScript accelerations.

http://firefoxmac.furbism.com/
PPC builds from vanilla source.

Or, you can build it yourself. Download the source from ftp.mozilla.org, follow the instructions. It will build on PowerPC.

Despite legions of clueless tech "journalists" who would claim otherwise, JavaScript speed doesn't have much of anything to do with Firefox 4 feeling snappy. It was more Mozilla's super slow main rendering engine. So, FF4 will feel much faster on PPC even though you're not getting any of the JS improvements.
 

DeSo

Banned
Yep, official release. I'm loving it. Just an addon or two not compatible yet for me but other than that it's great.
 

Shambles

Member
Tried to install it but apparantly I don't have "permission to write to that folder" even when running the installer in admin mode. I think I'll just stick to the FF that works *hearts add-ons*
 

starmud

Member
KennyLinder said:
No delicious support, they are closing apparently :( Need to find a new bookmark syncing tool (for multiple computers), any ideas?

delicious is being sold, supposedly stumbleupon might be buying it.

edit: nvm D::: i didn't even notice in firefox4 you can enable a add on even if its not compatible.

so far the delicious add on seems to work fine. the delicious bar is broken though, it isn't visible for me at all. i never used the bar itself though, since the shortcuts are faster, you can still choose all the icons from the customization menu as well. full delicious options are still available where they were before in the firefox bar. search, awesome bar integration and everything else important still works though.

funny enough, even gimped this is still better than the chrome add on for delicious... lawl

no script is a disaster for me since updating... its really acting glitchy with ff4 even though its listed as compatible
 

Andrefpvs

Member
Hmm, Firefox 4 doesn't support one of my toolbars. I actually wanted to get rid of it because I hate toolbars, but this one had a bunch of useful hotlinks to MS Word, Calculator, Paint, Notepad etc. that I used a lot.

So...

Is there any extension for Firefox 4 that allows me to bookmark programs installed on my computer to my bookmark bar?
 
Andrefpvs said:
Hmm, Firefox 4 doesn't support one of my toolbars. I actually wanted to get rid of it because I hate toolbars, but this one had a bunch of useful hotlinks to MS Word, Calculator, Paint, Notepad etc. that I used a lot.

So...

Is there any extension for Firefox 4 that allows me to bookmark programs installed on my computer to my bookmark bar?


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Sebastard

Banned
Why did they put the tab bar on the top? Its easier when its right under the bookmark bar like its always have been. I dont understand either why Chrome does it.
 

ScOULaris

Member
Andrefpvs said:
Hmm, Firefox 4 doesn't support one of my toolbars. I actually wanted to get rid of it because I hate toolbars, but this one had a bunch of useful hotlinks to MS Word, Calculator, Paint, Notepad etc. that I used a lot.

So...

Is there any extension for Firefox 4 that allows me to bookmark programs installed on my computer to my bookmark bar?
I know that New Tab King allows you to add links to programs to your New Tab page. Other than that, I have to agree with the poster above me. Why not just use your taskbar or Start menu? Do you keep it hidden?
 
Sebastard said:
Why did they put the tab bar on the top? Its easier when its right under the bookmark bar like its always have been. I dont understand either why Chrome does it.
You can easily change it if you want to, just right click on the navigation bar and disable "Tabs on Top"
 

Massa

Member
Garou said:
What is the best way to install Firefox 4 on Ubuntu Netbook Remix 10.04 and have it replace 3.6?

Just add the Firefox 4 "PPA". From this page:

To do this, open up the Ubuntu Software Center, head to Edit > Software Sources and click the ‘Other Software’ tab. Press ‘Add’ and then paste ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable into the relevant field.

After adding the PPA you will be prompted to update your sources. Once done you can head to System > Administration > Update Manager to perform an upgrade
 
Sebastard said:
Why did they put the tab bar on the top? Its easier when its right under the bookmark bar like its always have been. I dont understand either why Chrome does it.

It's to use up he empty space at the top of the window & maximise vertical space.
 
Sebastard said:
Why did they put the tab bar on the top? Its easier when its right under the bookmark bar like its always have been. I dont understand either why Chrome does it.
I prefer to have them on top so that I don't accidentally middle click a bookmark folder instead of closing a tab. Don't know how many times I've managed to do that.
 

Rei_Toei

Fclvat sbe Pnanqn, ru?
Sorry if it's been asked before, but is there any way to remove the images in the bookmark bar? Half of the bookmarks I use a lot are not visible anymore because it's now showing the logos of the websites.
 

AndyD

aka andydumi
Rei_Toei said:
Sorry if it's been asked before, but is there any way to remove the images in the bookmark bar? Half of the bookmarks I use a lot are not visible anymore because it's now showing the logos of the websites.
You mean the favicons?
 

AndyD

aka andydumi
Rei_Toei said:
Yeah, I think so.

I actually remove the text and use the icons only so i can fit more. An addon called roomy bookmarks. Then if you want when you hover over it the name shows.
 

Ilúvatar

Member
DarkUSS said:
I'm thinking of updating but then again I don't want any of my add-ons to stop working.

If this sways you at all, only two of my fifteen add-ons are not currently working with the most recent version (Being Add to Netvibes and Firesheep)
 
Treefingers said:
It's to use up he empty space at the top of the window & maximise vertical space.
It's about far more than just that. It's about what is "logical". With the tabs placed on top (and other changes in UI) all the buttons, bars and fields that fall within the frame of your tab actually affect your tab, and nothing else. Everything outside of the tab frame affects your browser in general, but not the tab.

There's a very informative youtube video by the Firefox creators (I think?) that visually explains the reasons for the UI changes. But I can't find it at the moment.


Edit: I think it's this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmgtW2Iw-kE (but I'm not sure because I'm on a horrible pc right now that doesn't let me play vids at all).
 

neclas

Member
So, I was told that I could move that stupidly placed "Firefox" drop-down menu, if I went to Firefox > Options > Toolbar Options and then dragged the menu to somewhere else. However, when I try to click to drag, it just opens the menu. Anybody know how to solve this?
 
AndyD said:
Mine updated last night. No different from RC1 that I can tell.
Yeah, you don't really add new features to something if it already is a release candidate, so not much has changed, except for bug fixes.

I've been using the Beta and now the release version for a while now and I really like the changes. I
 

th3dude

Member
close to the edge said:
Yeah, you don't really add new features to something if it already is a release candidate, so not much has changed, except for bug fixes.

I've been using the Beta and now the release version for a while now and I really like the changes. I

RC1 -> RC2 was 2 bug fixes
RC2 -> Final was no changes, I believe

I've been using the betas since one of the first ones, and it was very interesting to watch FF4 evolve. I'm definitely happy with the final product.
 
when i first installed it it was running really slow but now that i have used it a bit it runs fine. anyone else have this problem?
 

_woLf

Member
Moved tabs to below bookmarks bar.

Restored the full menu bar instead of that one click MS Office-esque crap.

Now all I need to do is find a way to fix this goddamn small blurry text, and we'll be good.
 

Kawaii

Member
I have the webdeveloper toolbar installed, this has a hotkey (ctrl+shift+a) for validating local html.

But with FF4 this hotkey will automatically open the add-on window. Can i change this somehow?
 

Yeef

Member
Kawaii said:
I have the webdeveloper toolbar installed, this has a hotkey (ctrl+shift+a) for validating local html.

But with FF4 this hotkey will automatically open the add-on window. Can i change this somehow?
Not sure if you can change the Firefox default hotkeys, but the web dev extension lets you manually set all of its hotkeys.
 

Darkatomz

Member
Darkatomz said:
Tried it out last night. After a few hours with it, here's what I found that I don't like.

-No more titles at the top of the window. Sure, it took up space, but I'm not sure getting rid of it was the answer.
-F6 doesn't highlight the address bar anymore for whatever reason. I don't like Ctrl+L since I hit Ctrl+K sometimes by accident, which highlights the search bar.
-Text is slightly blurry due to hardware acceleration.
-There is NO ask for tab-saving upon closing the browser. I found a line change in about:config that fixed this, but what the hell?? WHY would you disable that by default?

Other than that, I can live with the changes. Any suggestions to fix this stuff?
So. I managed to fix all of the above issues with the exception of the blurred font (seems to be too many different ways with different drawbacks, I'll have to experiment some, but I'm starting to think that this issue has more to do with AA and AF than browser settings themselves since this work laptop isn't having any of the different font problems that I have at home). For anyone with the same problems that I had, the fixes below are for you.

-To fix the F6 and titles problems, right click the tab bar and only have the 'menu bar' and 'navigation toolbar' checked.
-In about:config, make sure that browser.showQuitWarning, browser.warnOnQuit, and browser.warnOnRestart are all set to true.
 
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