AkelisRain
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I never sell my games, you almost end up regretting it later. Also, I may not like it now but maybe in a year or two I put it back in and something clicks. Happened to me with Dragon Age origins, and Monster Hunter Freedom .
First Horizon review [Engadget]
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Jawbreaker
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Any spoilers?
More_Badass
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Considering some of the extremely well-written posts Ive seen on GAF or even in Steam reviews, the difference between a professional game reviewer and a person is that one is paid to write on a site, and the other isnt. Now of course, there are many writers who excel at the craft and can write about games with impressive eloquence, but you say professional as if there's a bar to clear besides "do you like games and can you write" or "can you start a site and build an audience"
This review was more eloquent and well written than your average one IMO
DriftingSpirit
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The last one I plat was Skyrim and that was in 2015. I had the game for a while but I could never just complete it. So many distracting things when you're trying to finish the main quests. That isn't necessarily a bad thing either but it does make you step away from it a lot.
Peroroncino
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It's like people have forgotten what the word embargo means...
btw. it's a video review so watch it while it's up - I'm gonna watch it and report if it has any spoilers
DriftingSpirit
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I'm not sure. I didn't want to risk it.
onemanasylum
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IS the review good , bad, middle?
LOL
Jawbreaker
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According to this thread? Yes.
onemanasylum
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Another very positive review.
texhnolyze
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I skipped to the end of the video to see if there's a score, but it looks like it's cut.
I see. Maybe you should wait for more reviews then. Horizon is prety short for an open world RPG.
Equanimity
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Someone who wants to make sure that their writing is not convoluted rather it's as clear as possible?
WordsintheWater
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At the end he says as a complete package he think it's good. Presentation is top notch, but characterization isn't that great, although Aloy and her mentor and a few other characters are good. Didn't watch the whole thing though for fear of spoilers. Also I believe that it was videogamer.com review.
gundamkyoukai
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Say it good but the end get cut off.
Compare it to a UBi games , TR and Mass effect .
Say choice does not change the story .
Still that it does everything well.
EDIT i should note that choice does change certain things but not the overall story which what GG said would happen.
HeisenbergWW62
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Eolz
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Can't see anything wrong with that statement when you look at the gameplay. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing for some folks.
onemanasylum
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I mean the thoughts of the game.
Ocarina_117
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Skipped to the end of the videogamertv review to avoid spoilers.
Came across as a the reviewer believed it's a jack of all trades, king of none in the gameplay aspect. The few main characters and graphics were praised.
Came across as a the reviewer believed it's a jack of all trades, king of none in the gameplay aspect. The few main characters and graphics were praised.
onemanasylum
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How so?
I just wanted to quote what they said. Didn't mean to add any personal opinions to it. I did add the fact that they liked it though. Seemed fair to me.
Chronospherics
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Given that copies of this game are out in the wild if we do see early publications we shouldn't assume that the outlet broke an embargo, or struck a deal to excuse themselves from it.
On my PSN friends list alone 3 users are playing this game. Similarly, when Uncharted 4 launched I had the game over a week early.
In the UK at least, most major releases from Sony have broken street date by ebay sellers. I assume they get the games through traditional distribution channels, but they have absolutely no respect for release dates.
On my PSN friends list alone 3 users are playing this game. Similarly, when Uncharted 4 launched I had the game over a week early.
In the UK at least, most major releases from Sony have broken street date by ebay sellers. I assume they get the games through traditional distribution channels, but they have absolutely no respect for release dates.
Peroroncino
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No spoilers except for a brief explanation of prologue (who Alloy is etc.) and later they're showing a little bit of a dungeon that's pretty different from the world above, so if anybody wants to go totally blind and doesn't even know the premise of the story I'd skip it, but if you already know it then the review can be considered spoiler free.
Equanimity
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Jawbreaker
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Negative connotations. If Horizon does what Ubi games aim to do, except much better, that's not a bad thing at all; however, when people call it a "Ubisoft" game, it's being used as a pejorative.
WordsintheWater
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Watched a little more of the review, he says that the stealth aspect of it is lacking, but when it goes all out action is exactly where the game really shines. He also compared the cauldrons to things like the Tombs in Tomb Raider
texhnolyze
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Is it really that big? Maybe he's referring to AAA.
Filled with inaccuracies. Called first big exclusive of 2017. It comes in the same size box as yakuza and gravity rush.
DriftingSpirit
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lol
onemanasylum
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LOL, thought so.,
Garrett Hawke
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Love hearing praise for Aloy.
Ugh, I'm so hoping this game does well. Having one of the best selling and reviewing titles of the year with a female protagonist would be 🙏
It looks fantastic. I'm SUPPOSED to be skipping it at launch because I have to pay for Switch and Zelda but damn, I might be in anyway.
Ugh, I'm so hoping this game does well. Having one of the best selling and reviewing titles of the year with a female protagonist would be 🙏
It looks fantastic. I'm SUPPOSED to be skipping it at launch because I have to pay for Switch and Zelda but damn, I might be in anyway.
Riposte
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Let's put it like this: they felt the need to say this, but what do they say about Aloy's personality? "She's strong! She's brave! She's smart! She's loyal! She shoots the bow as well as pop culture character X! Her power is maximum!". Putting aside any sort "where's the gameplay focus!?" (this isn't my criticism), there is simply nothing to gleam from this. This isn't my judgment on the game's character or videogames in general, because even with the same material, I would think the average game reviewer would realize how childish they sound. This is some Red Letter Media parody material. But I don't want to oversell this one part; in a moderately better review, it would just be one really goofy thing. I think the whole review is awful across the board, to the point where it's exemplary.
I have general and highly vocal dislike for average professional game review, but this isn't really true. This is a bit of a cheap shot and, frankly, this review in the OP doesn't deserve to benefit from that. It actually represents pretty much the worst elements of published reviews (hence, exemplary). I've listened to enough game journo podcasts to know these writers have cliches and banalities they consciously want to avoid (stuff they picked up from years of experience, even if I think they are still nested in mediocrity or spend a lot of time covering up a clear lack of expertise in other areas) and this review doesn't avoid them - these flaws are, in fact, the most competent parts (the rest is, to reiterate, almost infantile). You have to really scrap the bottom of the metacritic barrel to get anything close to this bad on a professional scale (there are many exceptions, but they usually become infamous for it). I don't know how anyone who likes this review gets off putting down the overall medium, unless you have kind of genuine appreciation for junior college essays.
Jawbreaker
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Can't trust the mainstream games media with its fake news. Got any alternative sites?
WordsintheWater
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That review is all pretty positive, some negative aspects in there.
If you watched through all of it he did praise more of it and even if he did say that it had "taken" a lot of stuff from other games and that the games it was taken from implemented it better I absolutely did not get the feel that he tried to imply a "jack of all trades, king of none" feel.
Cow Goes Moo
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hope someone finds a way to archive this video
yeah they said it was very ubisoft like oti xero said
some sidequests fetch quests or batman/witcher vision where you track people down
yeah they said it was very ubisoft like oti xero said
some sidequests fetch quests or batman/witcher vision where you track people down
Peroroncino
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He said, and I quote: 'It takes elements of a lot of different games and doesn't do them quite as well, it does them decently'
He used examples such as towers in AC games [tallnecks], tombs in tomb raider [underground levels], hunting in far cry [to get better ammo pouches etc.] and dialogue wheel in ME [but called it 'irrelevant']
Overall they both settled that the game is 'good'.
It was a bit messy review tho, but maybe that's just me, because I don't like that kind of review format where 2 people are actively debating the game.
Kenzodielocke
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Sounds like a 7/10 to me. Is that videogamer? Then yeah, 7/10.
I also believe that it can't have been the whole video as it was VERY awkwardly cut at the end.
WordsintheWater
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But he does say the action is where it shines, so although it doesn't do those "borrowed" elements as well as others, the action aspect of it, which is its own, it does very well.
gundamkyoukai
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yes it was messy with the format they went with .
Ocarina_117
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Wow getting criticised for skipping a review to pick up closing remarks and avoiding spoilers. GG guys, sorry for taking an interest in a praised story.
'Takes elements of a lot off different games and doesn't do them quite as well' - literally taken word for word from the review.
Edit - yes it's a videogamertv review. I've always been a fan of the channel which I wanted to know their thoughts.
'Takes elements of a lot off different games and doesn't do them quite as well' - literally taken word for word from the review.
Edit - yes it's a videogamertv review. I've always been a fan of the channel which I wanted to know their thoughts.
Cow Goes Moo
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actually yeah i think it is videogamer's review
Peroroncino
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Yeah it's like somebody barged in and cut the recording after the word good, it's a bit weird to end anything like that. But as I said, to me the whole review felt a bit messy, really not used to that format.
Yup, that's why I think they settled on the game being good.
Well semantically this is all confusing. It's.... a GG game lol.
WordsintheWater
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Nope that's how Videogamer reviews usually end, no score and just an abrupt ending.
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